one can not sail on two boats so use urine therapy and for this drink urine through mouth and nostrils and do whole body massage with urine and use vegetarian food and for more information can ask at rakshakmal@yahoo.com
regards
Dr Lodha

In general,
Hi,
Ramniklal's phone number is 9820600741. (Mumbai/India)
For my posts on urine therapy just search
//www.curezone.org
author id "ei132".
Ramniklal does not speak English. He speaks fluent Gujarati and most probably Hindi too.
He has 42 years experience in Urine Therapy. Now, there are many indians in USA so most probably someone can call Ramniklal directly.

Yes, he must have cured several cancer patients.

If someone gives me a post here, I can call Ramniklal for questions.

His general advice for cancer patients is:
1. No solid food, no non-vegetarian food. Fruit and vegetable juices and milk is okay.
2. Drink your own urine.
3. Massage yourself with your own urine ---- fresh urine above and including the neck. And old urine (4 to 8 days old or older) below the neckline. Fresh urine to drink and give in the arsehole as an enema. Penis is fresh urine massage.
5. Preferably no tea and no coffee.

Best Regards,
EI

Dear ei132

I am sorry to disagree with you, but I do believe Urine therapy will eventually cause you kidney problems.

I hope I am wrong, but time will tell.

The fact that an Indian doctor told you something does not impress me.
I am not in awe of the Dr. title.

I do not take everything doctors say as gospel, my own doctor told me that I could not control my diabetes without using drugs, yet I am doing great without using the drugs he prescribed for me.
An Indian heart surgeon wanted to operate in my heart and said that I needed to have the operation or else I would die from a heart attack, I refused to go thru with the surgery, and now my heart is doing great.
Both of these doctors were wrong, so that shows me that they really don't know everything.

Also being fluent in other languages does not impress me or means nothing to me, I myself am fluent in English, Spanish, Japanese, some German and French.

Hi,
Check these:
URINE THERAPY --- A significant research and advance in medicine
© Myself. January 22, 2007. Unlimited copyright permission granted to any publisher or individual to publish, translate, in part or in whole, for any purpose whatsoever. Released in the public domain.

Google search on “urine therapy” gives 150,000 articles as of Jan 24, 2007.
Is urine toxic ?
Consult your doctor. The liver metabolizes toxins. It then connects to the gall-bladder where bile is stored and sent to the intestine. The bile eliminates the toxins (check this with your doctor).
Residues of medicines come out in the urine. You drink them if you consume urine.
So then the residues of the residues may come out thru the liver. If you drink urine they will come out and back again into the body.
So then the residues of the residues of the residues may come out thru the liver/bile/intestines.

Ultimately the liver metabolizes all toxins.


Urine therapy and reference in the Bible

http://www.bible-topics.com/Wells.html

o (Drinking from one's own,) of enjoyment of domestic happiness.
Proverbs 5:15 Drink waters out of thine own cistern, and running waters out of thine own well.

Urine therapy and reference in Islam
My advice -- Consult your priest if you are a Muslim. Ask him to check:
Sahih Bukhari, Ablutions (Wudu'), Volume 1, Book 4, Number 234"

(This is from the web-page
http://www.islamawareness.net/FAQ/faq1000.html)

Also check,
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/004.sbt.html


First lets look at the hadith: from
http://www.islamawareness.net/FAQ/faq1000.html


Narrated Abu Qilaba: "Anas said, "Some people of 'Ukl or 'Uraina tribe came to Medina and its climate did not suit them. So the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of (Milch) camels and to drink their
milk and urine (as a medicine). So they went as directed and after they became healthy, they killed the shepherd of the Prophet and drove away all the camels. The news reached the Prophet early in the morning and he sent (men) in their pursuit and they were captured and brought at noon. He then ordered to cut their hands and feet (and it was done), and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron, They were put in 'Al-Harra' and when they asked for water, no water was
given to them." Abu Qilaba said, "Those people committed theft and murder, became infidels after embracing Islam and fought against Allah and His Apostle . (Sahih Bukhari, Ablutions (Wudu'), Volume 1, Book 4, Number 234)"
Can urine therapy be done with any medicine including anti-biotics.
According to my urine therapist consultant Ramniklal Gada (Mumbai, India 9820600741) urine-therapy can be done safely with any medication. General advice is not to discontinue your medication abruptly because your body has become addicted to those medications. I have not yet been able to reduce even marginally my long-term medications. TAKE YOUR DOCTORS ADVICE BEFORE DISCONTINUUING OR REDUCING MEDICATION OR STARTING URINE THERAPY. Inform your doctor and your family that you are doing urine-therapy. If you have a mental illness, keep a diary and show your family members that you are taking a gradually reducing dose of medication, by making them witness the dose you are taking and writing the name of the witness and the time in the diary.

General guidance for urine therapy by Ramniklal
Except for the face and eyes and neck and drinking and gargling and enema and applying to your penis (don’t know about applying to scrotum), urine 4-8 days old or older urine has to be applied everywhere as massage. Ramniklal does not know about injections with urine, although the internet reports them as having been tried.

Personal experience of how to perform Urine Therapy and Urine Therapists phone numbers.
Urine Therapy in my experience is done as follows. My Urine Therapists phone numbers are Ramniklal Gada (9820600741) and Dinesh Doshi (Mumbai, India, 26369633). Ramniklal is much more experienced.

1. To the eyes – I blink my eyes in an eyecup of Urine. If the eyes sting, I wash them by blinking them in an eyecup of water. I started this after my 3rd month of Urine Therapy. Now, the result is that I can see small hand-writing of the date on my watch after 5 days of Urine Therapy. I never wore spectacles, even though I am prescribed them, so I do not have to reduce spectacles gradually.
2. For myself: I have to massage old urine (4 to 8 days, or more older) in the region between the ears. This is so that the brain gets a massage of old urine. The urine has to be massaged till dry and then washed off without using soap. I wash my head in room-temperature water. I have seen that after 3 months of massage at the back of my head, my hair at the base of my head is noticably blacker compared to the rest of my head.
3. I started urine therapy by drinking full-strength urine. Only on the first day, the urine gave a smell in the nose. Drinking urine can be started by dissolving a few drops of urine in water and putting below the tongue. Then after a massage is done with old urine, one can start drinking full-strength urine.
4. I massage any body-part with old urine which is paining.
5. I shave with with FRESH Urine instead of shaving soap or gel. When I shave with fresh urine, the cuts (if any are visible) heal instantly and not a drop of blood drips out.

6. I had some toothache where there was an existing cavity. Applying urine there did not allow the pain to go out of hand. I also applied ghee (clarified butter) to the tooth and that too help the pain subside. Since I drink Urine everyday, the cavity has gone away. Most of the time I do not brush my teeth, so my teeth look yellow, but before functions and special days I brush my teeth with toothpaste and toothbrush.
7. Putting old urine in the ears cures the ears of any hearing problem. Now, I put old urine in my ears.
8. I add a drop of eucalyptus oil to my old urine to reduce the smell.
9. To clean the colon or if you are at risk of piles surgery call Ramniklal Gada and ask him what to do. I recommended enemas with urine to my friend, but should fresh urine be used or old urine be used. I have not used enemas yet, but one day I might.
10. I had corns on my feet. With a sock tied in old urine soaked over night the cures disappeared 90% from left big toe and 100% from right big toe.
11. I had tendonitis from the computer. So I tied a sock in old urine overnight around the wrist and the tendonitis disappeared.
12. My left shoulder blade ache sometimes from typing. So I massage myself (since no family member agrees) with old urine on the shoulder. The pain is then bearable.
13. I had dandruff so I massaged my entire head in old urine. The dandruff disappeared. Then I washed my body in soap and the dandruff came back. So I again massaged my head in urine and the dandruff disappeared again never to return.
14. On Urine Therapy I am advised to never bathe my head in soap/shampoo but use “besan” or “gram powder” once or twice a week if necessary. I have never used “besan” or “gram powder” either and my body does not smell.
15. I have completely gray hair but where I massage my head with old urine and leave it on for 20 minutes, I am advised that my hair is 20% to 60% blacker depending on the person. However, that hair might be black from before.
16. My knees do not pain any more. This benefit is noticable immediately after drinking urine and massaging knees with urine.
17. I had soreness in my throat. It went away with urine therapy. Antibiotics and gargling with salt water had no effect.
18. I have not had a cold or a cough since I started drinking urine.
19. I have now started applying fresh urine to my cheeks and forehead to see if it makes my Acne scars go away and my wrinkles disappear.
20. I had a problem with Acidity. I have not noticed Acidity since I started Urine Therapy on September 2006.

Personal observations while doing Urine Therapy.
I have diarrhoea after starting urine therapy (The diarrhoea stopped as of January 28, 2007). So once I used “Electral or oral rehydration therapy” to replenish the lost salts. Now, I make adjustments on my own. Once I did potty “stools” in my pants because there was no bathroom available near the garden. Now, sometimes I drink less urine or drink urine first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and wait till I go to the toilet.

I have given up tea and coffee as advised but now occasionally drink tea or coffee.

My heart once beat rapidly for 5-15 minutes. Nothing happened beyond that. It beat like that only once when starting urine therapy.

My doctors and family members advice me to give up urine therapy because of all the medicines whose residues reconsumed. I might give it up too because of the danger of reconsuming medicines.

Urine Therapy and Evolution. My Hypothesis which may be wrong.
Why does Urine Therapy work.
From the lowest quantum physics, where I claim particles have very low metabolisms, and hence very long life-spans, nature has learnt to benefit “some other entity” with its toxic waste so that that “other entity” will help the entity in times of distress. Therefore, in the end what survives is a “community of the fittest”, where the weak play a function too.

Urine Therapy should be thought of this way. In the initial unicellular organisms, the problem of waste disposal in oceans is a major difficulty. On death, what is toxic to the neighboring cells, has to be discarded profitably for scavengers. To attract scavengers, the unicellular organisms too had to undergo mutation.

This is the story of Urine Therapy. What is toxic apparently to neighboring cells, is profitable to scavengers and hence excreted in the urine to be profitably reconsumed.

So Urine Therapy perfectly satisfies allopathy’s requirement of understandability.

Experiment to do with Urine Therapy
For men, while they are shaving, stop using soap or shaving gel and use Urine. Urine will give you a shave where the blood heals instantly on the cheeks and does not come out. I got this after four months of drinking urine.

I called my friend and reported this to him. He said that everybody knows that the face cuts heal soon. So I cut myself with the same twin shaving blade on the leg and no blood came out.

I drank 3/4th of a glass of CAMPARI (30% alcohol). I had good sleep and no hangover the next day. Perhaps alcoholics should try drinking Urine to calm their hangover.

Diseases curable with Urine Therapy

J. W. Armstrong’s book, “The water of life: A treatise on Urine Therapy” mentions several diseases curable with Urine Therapy including cancer and gangrene. An internet search on “urine therapy”, “urine therapy testimonials”, “Shivambu Yoga”, “Damar Tantra”, “uropathy” will yield several other testimonials.

Armstrong’s book clearly mentions that that which requires surgery cannot be cured with Urine Therapy. He clearly mentions several cases of cancer that can be cured.

Changing surgery with Urine Therapy Understanding
Surgery sutures can be changed with Urine Therapy. Since the mind remembers the position of limbs and fantasizes about them, perhaps Urine Therapy with appropriate new techniques of surgery helps the phantom limbs to materialize. Wrinkle removal is done now with botox injected, perhaps that can be changed with Urine Therapy as Urine massage is given. Perhaps Acne scars can be removed with massage of Urine. The ancient Hindu God, Ganapati, has an elephant’s head on a human body. We are achieving this with great difficulty today with injections to avoid rejection. Perhaps the ancient Gods used Urine Therapy for surgery.

Why Urine Therapy should be informed to your friends and doctors?
Do not blame the doctor. He himself feeds the same medicines to his children. So inform him about Urine Therapy. The same holds true for nurses.

Cautions with Urine Therapy and your medications.
Your medication has to be discontinued with the advice of your doctorI am drinking about 2 full glasses of my own urine a day WITH LONG-TERM MEDICATIONS. I find it unbelievable that I can drink Urine with the by-products and residues of allopathic medication and still live. My doctor has clearly adviced me that long-term kidney failure is possible by reconsuming medication.

Urine Therapy can help you digest poisons. So I guess, digesting residues of allopathic medication is easy.

Vegetarianism, vegan and Urine Therapy
I was vegetarian before starting Urine Therapy and have even reduced drastically with a view to elimination my consumption of tea and coffee. Vegetarians say that we have a long intestine characteristic of herbivores and short canines for when no food is available. With urine therapy, you feel less hungry.

Perhaps milk products can be discontinued gradually too.

Can women’s menopause be reversible.
Nobody knows, but perhaps it can. According to Ramniklal all the hormonal imbalance of the body after menopause can be corrected so women (I guess) will feel better. According to Ramniklal the women will still not be able to have children.

Urine therapy and death.
My professor, Jim Slagle, at the University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, told me that fruit flies have an exponential decay curve in their life span , that is they have infinitely long lives. One wonders whether Urine therapy gives infinitely long lives, or at least life spans of 90 to 100 years in good health, that are cut short only by physical trauma. The book “Manav Mootra” mentions that Lamas in Tibets live upto 150 years by drinking their own urine.

Urine therapy and age reversal
Yes, perhaps it can happen. I have yet to find out on myself. But my hair has turned black at the back of my head (1 inch on the bottom).

Urine therapy and Urine turning into a clear colorless liquid
I am still on my medications but my urine has turned into a clear colorless liquid and I have to keep going to the toilet to urinate (December 30, 2006, 1:27 AM Indian Standard Time in the night). I have tasted such urine only once before when doing the urine therapy experiment. This is scary. Ramniklal had told me once that this means that the forward channel from the kidneys is cleaned. I called him in the morning and he said it is good.


Diary since Jan 13, 2007
1. In no longer wake up at night to urinate. Slept at 12 am, woke up at 8 am (Jan 13, 2007). I am able to rotate a fan regulator stick carefully without a knob.
2. As of Jan 15, 2007 for 2 days my urine is not dark brown and acrid and strong-taste to drink but pale yellow, and not acrid but rather simple taste to drink. This has happenned once or twice before for a day. Ramniklal attributes this to “heat going out of the body” and calls it good. I’ve also noticed my acidity has gone for a long long time (since starting urine therapy approx. Sept 2006).
3. On Jan 15,2007 I am planning to reduce my medication by ½ a tablet.
4. On Jan 13, 2007 a friend of mine told me she has cut down her alcohol consumption down to 3 days a week from 7 days a week.
5. Urine therapy support forum is on
//www.curezone.org
--- you can ask questions there and get answers. It is the top 10 forum in the last 100 hours. 16/Jan/2006
6. MOSQUITOES don’t seem to bite me anymore. Perhaps this is because I don’t use soap, bathe in cold water (not relevant, I guess) and most importantly --- their feeding tubes would block on urine.
7. A diabetic in the garden (Amarson’s garden/Mumbai/India) told me that his friend’s cuts heal without pus coming out anymore --- for diabetics wound healing is a major problem.
8. The same person, Mani, has become an expert on healing skin from burns. Apply fresh urine with betnovate-n when the wound by an iron took place (about 3 inches * 3 inches). I’ve seen the healed skin.
9. Mani has cured 2 people with water coming out of their skin by applying urine. For one person, his entire lower portion of leg was covered with wounds, so he applied OLD URINE there.
10. I had reduced my psychiatric medications by a ¼ pill of Trinicalm Plus (Stelazine with anti-parkinsons component). At the end of 5 days I’ve had to take ½ pill extra to go to sleep. I’ll maintain the prescribed dose ( 1 ½ Trinicalm Plus in morning, 2 Tegretol CR 200 mg in morning, one Vitamin B Complex Becosules in morning and night 3 tegretol CR 200 mg, 1 Zicot 25 mg, and 1 ½ Trinicalm Plus). I’ve noticed that I seem to last for 5 days with less medication (always taken before a family member as witness) and then need the full dose of medicine ---- it seems my body is addicted to its normal dose. Allopathic medicines are very powerful and the body seems to get dependent on them
11. The whites of my eyes seem to have become white by washing in an eye cup with urine (room-temperature/fresh) and then rinsing in the same eye cup with tap water and I can see without strain BUT the letters of the date on my watch can be seen, but after some positioning from 1 foot distance.
12. Does urine therapy work as a cure for bedbugs, mosquitoes and other parasites that bite you to draw blood ---- if their biting/sucking instruments get instantly clogged they should not bite you. Mosquitoes don’t seem to bite me anymore.
13. I started urine drinking before September 2006. Now as of January 23, 2007 my urine seems pale lemon color, easy taste to drink even on full medications.

References:
J. W. Armstrong. “Water of life: A treatise on Urine Therapy”
Manav Mootra.

I still believe that UT is wrong, I really do not care if many cultures think it is right. there were cultures that thought human sacrifices or canibalism was right. There were many other things that primitive cultures thought were right, but now we know they are wrong.

just because something is practiced by a culture does not make it right.

I am not attacking others, you perceive that I have attacked you, but no I have not.
I am attacking a method that is wrong, wrong, wrong.

When I first heard and read about urine therapy, I felt disgusted and horrified. What all horrible things we do to stay healthy, I thought.

NOW I CHANGED. Yes, urine therapy works.
HERE ARE SOME REFRESHING THOUGHTS

You need not use urine therapy because some old ancients did. They might have been ignorant. But, see if it benefits you. Your health is your own concern.
So, what about urine drinking?
1. IS IT A WASTE PRODUCT? NO! Human waste is eliminated through nose (air and mucous) skin (sweat) and backside (stools). All living beings (even many vehicles) have holes in their behind to eliminate waste. Other waste-eliminating points are mouth (vomit), ears (wax) etc. But the reproductive organs are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. They are creative organs.
2. Urine releasing organs are DIFFERENT AND SEPARATE. Hence used for enjoyment, for creating new life, and for bringing out healthy water, which is powerful. So the entire function of the reproductive organ is for creating life and health.

3. If urine was so dirty, saliva also is dirty. But humans (if not other mammals) exchange saliva! Further, urine was inside the body only a few seconds before elimination.
The first good signal of your drinking morning urine is mouth becoming fresh. Yes, there's toxic elimination accompanied by diarrhea once or twice. But drinking water helps. Otherwise, you feel strong, somehow, and the nagging tired feeling goes away.