Time is not death, there is no such thing.

#52067: "As far as days months and years, I think we can all agree that these are just man-made."

? were you speaking metaphorically or sarcastically here ?

a day is the length of time it takes earth (in this case) to spin once around completely on its axis.

a year is the length of time it takes the earth (in this case) to orbit one time completely around the sun.

a day on venus or jupiter is different from an earth day. and so on.

the large gaseous planets spin faster and have shorter days than earth, and they have longer years because they are farther away from the sun than earth.

the large stone calendars and certain buildings such as the Great Pyramid were built partially to help determine just how much "time" has gone by as well as any shifts in the planet's axis and/or land masses after times when the "earth stands still" ... a (fill in the blank) of the earth internalizing its energy for a magnetic pole shift.

WE live (ONLY OBJECTS EXIST). We can fuss about life on the subatomic level, but if we define life as having the requirement of GROWTH in TIME, rocks don't live, they exist, but we LIVE, not exist.



This is a poem I wrote when I was 15 (haven't given the subject of time any thought for 37 years.
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Time is not real,
just a dreadful ordeal.
It's only a name for the distance
between the beginning and end of existence.
It makes life worse
and causes us to curse.
It's the space in our mind
that causes us to be unkind.
With it comes fate,
which is hell if you wait,
and that's when time is not just an ordeal, but a crime.
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It seems that time is a HUMAN perception (someone once said that animals don't know they're going to die and that's why they're at peace and simply enjoy existing...the "moment of now") and it's our memories that we are always trying to either repeat or avoid repeating, either way, it's a STRUGGLE (it almost resembles a CURSE of existence). Actually, it's kind of a mixed blessing because it does allow the use of our imaginations (seemingly another difference between humans and animals is that we have imagination).

"experience the moment of now".


Maybe it's "TIME" that makes us restless and impatient so that we don't always treat each other well (I think that's what I meant when I wrote the poem, don't remember).

I can't help but think we're looking a gift horse in the mouth (delving too deeply instead of simply enjoying, maybe loneliness is for the profound). One of the worst things we can do is try to make sense out of life because...it just doesn't make sense (from a logical point of view). It's like Solomon says in Ecclesiastes...we're just "chasing after the wind" (and it's just all about vanity...trying to improve our status through time).

I think being aware of our inseparable connection with the universe and realizing the fact that we play a direct role on its creation (24/7) is one of the biggest lessons in life. The universe (which we are part of), being simply a basket of infinite probabilities simply awaits for our awareness and intention to choose its course (and consecutively our personal path).

I believe our physical confinement to 3 dimensional space is only due to our inability to perceive other dimensions that make it the universe as a whole. There are certain people who have exercised the ability to perceive higher dimensions (perhaps because this ability wasn't suffocated in the early stages of their lifes).

It's much like us living in the 3D world looking at people living in a 2D world (for example like cartoons on a flat screen). We in the 3D world know that there's 3 dimensions but the 2D people are not able to experience it, and are stuck living in "flatland" (even though the 3rd dimension is part of their universe).

So it has a lot to do with our capabilities of processing these higher dimensions. Perhaps our human nature hasn't exercised that ability due to not being a necessity to survival (in evolution concept), or it's just a repressed ability, but either way, it does not mean that our universe is all we currently perceive.

Back to the concept of time:
It may be that time is usually perceived as a dimension because is a convenient measurement for us human beings.

If we want to schedule a party with our friends we not only must specifiy the location (in 3 spatial dimensions) but also need a 4th coordinate which is the time of the party. The only difference is that this 4th coordinate seems to be unidirectional, unlike the spatial dimensions.

So time may be more of a measurement of the unidirectional nature of the concept of entropy and free energy, stating that all physical things are progressing to a lower more stable energy state and one that is higher in disorder (compared to it's initial state).

But the problem is that we are trying to make a lot of factors of the universe constants, and then build our learnings on that. This will snowball into wrong assumptions. Nothing in our physical world seems to be a constant - even the foundation concepts in which we built our learnings aren't constant - time, spatial dimensions speed of light, they are all ever changing and at different scales on every corners of the universe.
However, for simplicity sakes and bring some peace of mind, we assume that some of what we are perceiving is for all practical purposes constants.

Now we are at a critical point where we must throw out the window all those assumptions of constancy in order to make sense of things like quantum effects. Those assumptions aren't valid in this type of primordial layer of our universe.

We must also come to the conclusion that we are not mere observers of the universe, our simple presence in one experiment is impacting the outcome of it (everything is interconnected).
We would be fools to think that what we experience everyday isn't a direct result of of our actions in the now. We need to realize that every single thing we move or think is a piece of information that is stored in the collective conscious of the universe and that piece of information (no matter how insignificant it may seem) is directly changing the path this lifeforce which we are parts of.

Mike

Another way to look at it would be that life is actually a gift that allows you to use your potential and see it coming to life by watching reality unfold in front of you.

It's all a matter of choice - many people have not come to realize that they become what they create, in other words they are building the road that they walk on.
Many frustrated and unhappy people begin digging themselves a hole by having these self defeating thoughts, and we all know that the power our thoughts have in our reality.

If you choose to run away from it all and live life in survival mode, that is what your life will become.
If you choose to use your potential to steer your life the way you want to, then thats where your life will go.
It all starts with intention - a mentality change will change the universe, because you are part of it and if you change yourself than the universe will follow.
Mike

"Or to put it differently, Why not experience pain (attachment, rejection, lack) while I can? I will have plenty of "pain free time" when I'm dead".

It is my opinion and experience that there is no wrong emotion. All emotions are good. Now some emotions may cause pain, and that is alright, if not easy to understand when you are suffering. But it is that suffering which causes the problem. We as humans are not free from a pain free life. All living things feel pain, it is the way of nature and the Universe. But judgement on that pain is suffering and that is unbalanced. Why would anyone judge their pain?

Accept that pain is a natural part of life and most of the time it is an opportunity to settle some Karmic debt.

To say to God "why have you forsaken me" actually shows a lack of faith in God. Since YOU are god, you are really saying; why have I forsaken myself.

It's a myth that God wants your sovereignty. God wants us to see eye to eye with him, not kneel at his feet. Just like a good parent, God wants us to grow taller and stronger then himself. God wants us to realize that we are all God, we are all the source of love, understanding and empathy. You are God.....

As someone else who responded to your post said; "you lead and the Universe will follow". This is right on. I could not say it clearer then that.

But you say things like; "I have been throwing away my life", passing up all these great opportunities, start making more money for that; women are not free, a prostitute, just with a long term contract (marriage), extinguish the last remaining desires I observe in myself, Why not experience pain (attachment, rejection, lack) while I can? I will have plenty of "pain free time" when I'm dead, I don't have anything to live for, etc"

And you wonder why the things that happen to you, happen to you. Why would you assume that this life is only to experience pain, but when you die, you are pain free?

The Universe is all about balance, and since we are of this Universe, we oursleves are about balance. Some will call it duality, but its still about balance, that is how the Universe works. All things get happy, just as all things get sad. Do not put a judgement on any of your emotions, for then you are living in an illusion. Pain is natural, suffering is a judgement on that pain, its an illusion.

You seem very in touch with your emotions and I would bet that you are going to find that balance and truely experience the happiness you seek. Not because God will choose that for you, but becuase you are asking the questions that your higherself has asked of you to ask. You are strong and you know it. It's why you have the courage to ask these questions. Right on man!

The Universe will always balance itself out. I believe you are paying some Karmic debt right now. It seems that you are a a man of your word and you are paying up that debt and happy to be able to do so.

It's your natural state to be happy. Sorta like a boat on the open sea. Sometimes the boat rocks, dips, bumps around, but its natural state is to be balanced, to stay upright. Living creatures are almost the same way, but we are both the sea and the boat.

The Universe (God) and your higherself only show you what you are able to understand. Source (God again) will never give you more then you can handle. And since you are God, you only experience what you know you can handle.

My boat dips and rocks too, I'm not devoid of pain and would not want to be, for then I would be unbalanced. But from time to time I am able to step out of the illusion and see it for what it really is, a condition on my wholeness. It's an illusion, but to see it for what it is, I must live in it (illusions) from time to time to have that balance.

You are highly aware of that yourself. You just need to confidence to follow your natural path. So maybe instead of complaining about your boat shaking all around, try strapping yourself in and enjoy the ride. You might get bruised and thrown around a bit, but once you feel your boat settle down, you will appreciate it that much more and be prepaired for the next time.

Try this little example on a physical level:

Stand on one foot with your eys open for ten seconds. You will find you are able to balance yourself with no problem or effort.

Now try standing on one foot with your eyes closed for ten seconds and you will see its very hard to keep your balance.

Think of yourself the same way. When you are open to experience all your emotions, you will find that balance with very little effort. But the moment you close your eyes (soul) to certain emotions or experiences you become unbalanced and confused.

peace out bro....

My angels mess with me sometimes...Make my keyboard stick and other goofy things... I think they still get to have fun... It is good to see you again as well my friend...