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From: 61554 5/7/2001 1:00 am
To: LOVERIOT (17 of 53)
1791.17 in reply to 1791.16
I too have tried the liver flush, which we always called it the gallbladder cleanse. I am here to tell you I FEEL it works! Taking the gallbladder out is taking care of a symptom, WHY not take care of the Problem and that is to feed the body the right way & it can HEAL itself!!
I was told that the apple juice and lemon juice are to soften the stones so that they can pass and the oil is to help them go through the ducts. I passed black stones (That's what I would choose to call them) many of them the first time and then I redid the cleanse and passed green ones that time and I FELT GREAT the first and 2nd time.
I am a Believer that they were stones softened! I feel that if your going to do the cleanse that you need to stick with someone that has done it before and do it as it says to do it! I would do it again and know that if I did I would feel better!
I have friends that have done it, after being diagnosed with a bad gallbladder and got the same GREAT feeling I had one of them is a nurse and she has of yet to have her gallbladder taken out and she really wasn't sure when I told her what I had done, when I had gallbladder problems, because she really is not into the natural things as I am BUT........
this time she decided to try the cleanse and it worked and made a BELIEVER out if her!
You have to decide what is BEST for you and it's NOT SURGERY for me!
GOOD LUCK to you all and isn't it GREAT that we have freeedom of
speech!
I will opt to do cleanses as to be practiced on by a doctor, which is what happens sometimes! At least this is my opinion!
61554
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From: RICHARD5021 4/18/2001 10:21 pm
To: Cathy (AB_ALTMED) (3 of 53)
1791.3 in reply to 1791.1
Hi Cathy,
I too have tried a version of the Liver/Gallbladder detox. I too achieved the same results as you, quit a few pale green structures floating in the bowl. I did not examine them as closely as you but did experience the same exuberant detox high!
I can not say it was one of the more enjoyable experiences in my life but I do feel that it was beneficial and I will do it again. I did feel good for weeks after (whether placebo or actual benefit)and feel that the stones that I passed were actually gallstones.
I enjoy your column,
Rick in PA
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From: HERBNURSE 4/19/2001 3:19 am
To: Cathy (AB_ALTMED) (4 of 53)
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I have used a Liver Flush off and on over the last 20 years, although it is significantly different than the one you describe.
This Liver Flush is a 5 day dast from all solid food but you drink quarts and quarts of organic "lemonade". Use organic lemons and pure water in a pitcher to make lemonade as usual. For the sweetener use only 100% pure maple syrup to taste. Add fresh ground dried cayenne in small amounts (~1/2 tsp in 2 qts.). Bottoms up!
I was taught that the lemon is the cleanser, flushing the liver in particular of toxins. The maple syrup is for energy to provide the carbohydrate source during the "fast". The cayenne stimulates circulation to assure that optimal organ cleansing is going on.
There are no dramatic or visible / tangible results of any kind, sorry. There are no green balls, or any kind of balls at all. There are times when your stool looks really skanky and makes you happy that that stuff is leaving your body, but that's about it.
I am not actually sure and would have to go back and check my old books, but, to give credit where credit is due, I believe this Liver Flush was passed along by Mildred Jackson ND in her volume on alternative medicines.
People with any signs and symptoms of any kind of liver conditions should never pursue the liver flush or similar liver cleansings as it could exacerbate inflammations of the liver. If you are not sure, ask your doctor if your liver function tests are within normal ranges before you contemplate taxing your liver with a flush.
Happy Spring Cleaning!
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From: TXHERBALORE 4/19/2001 10:42 am
To: Cathy (AB_ALTMED) (5 of 53)
1791.5 in reply to 1791.1
After suffering with a "hot" gall bladder that my family physician was not able to diagnose, even after an ultrasound and bloodwork (my numbers were all in the "normal" range), I turned to alternative medicine....herbs.
Consulted with a Master Herbalist who recommended the gall bladder flush, combined with a series of herbs known to calm and heal the digestive system.
After 6 months of watching my diet, taking my herbs, and doing the flush (olive oil, lemon juice, & cascara sagrada instead of Epsom Salts ), I am feeling better than I have felt in several years. I'm from a family of problem gall bladders and I made a decision to do whatever it takes to keep mine.
My program consisted of building my system through cleansing, stimulation of my immune system, maintaining my body pH through a better diet, exercise, and lots of water. My gall bladder flush followed several months of building my body systems.
By using Cascara Sagrada, I never experienced any pain or problems. Since flushing, my body pH has been easier to maintain, I have more energy, feel more calm, and my body even feels healthier. I've been slightly anemic for many years and recently noticed my blood looks healthier, darker, and clots faster. I no longer take anti-depressants-haven't needed them and I feel better than I have felt in a long time.
Taking charge of my own health rather than depending upon "modern medicine" to solve my problems has made a difference for me. I still have a lot of work to do-so many years of neglect, but each day brings me closer to being healthy and "centered" again.
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From: YEEH01 4/20/2001 8:43 am
To: Cathy (AB_ALTMED) (8 of 53)
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I just have to respond - I am a pathologist and I see gallbladders and Gallstones daily. I agree with your sources who told you those balls were not gallstones. They are most definitely NOT. It's actually pretty sad that people who don't know what Gallstones look like are all impressed by this and think they have passed stones.
Ann Elizabeth (praticing pathologist)
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From: DJ6467 4/26/2001 4:38 am
To: Cathy (AB_ALTMED) (13 of 53)
1791.13 in reply to 1791.1
If we are to accept from your article that this is a con and that the matter excreted is NOT Gallstones how then is it explained that a person who has an ultrasound scan that confirms the presence of gallstones, after the treatment has a second ultrasound that confirms the ABSENCE of gallstones?
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> I just have to respond - I am a pathologist and I see gallbladders and Gallstones daily. I agree with your sources who told you those balls were not gallstones. They are most definitely NOT. It's actually pretty sad that people who don't know what Gallstones look like are all impressed by this and think they have passed stones.
> Ann Elizabeth (praticing pathologist)
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From: NANCYEM Feb-23 7:00 pm
To: Cathy (AB_ALTMED) unread (40 of 53)
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Hi Cathy:
I disagree with whoever told you that what you got out were not gallstones. I have done research as well, and tried the Liver Flush myself. It was instrumental in my health quest, although I agree that it is rather nasty to do. You are right that Gallstones can get stuck on their way out but you can avoid this by softening the stones first before attempting a flush. See www.sensiblehealth.com for more information.
My friend, who is a nurse, got out stones from her liver that would choke a horse, they were so big. Some were 5" by 2". You can't tell me these were formed in her intestines. She took pictures of these and all the doctors she has showed them to were amazed. The flushes literally saved her life. Without doing these she would not have survived. Many of the "gallstones" are actually formed in the liver and can cause liver congestion. That's why people who have had their gallbladders removed can still get "gallstones".
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> I just have to respond - I am a pathologist and I see gallbladders and Gallstones daily. I agree with your sources who told you those balls were not gallstones. They are most definitely NOT. It's actually pretty sad that people who don't know what Gallstones look like are all impressed by this and think they have passed stones.
> Ann Elizabeth (praticing pathologist)
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From: NANCYEM Mar-9 12:10 am
To: PATKAYE4 (47 of 53)
1791.47 in reply to 1791.44
I tried the castor oil packs you mention and it only aggrevated my problems. I had no luck with them at all. I don't believe the castor oil can soften and remove gallstones, at least it didn't for me. The Liver Flush was very successful for me after using Gold Coin Grass to soften the gallstones. And I found that it is a good idea to cleanse the kidneys at the same time. Everything I have read says that you should treat the liver and kidneys at the same time.
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As you seem to know a lot about Gallstones and gallbladders, can you tell me if it's safe to do the Liver Flush with olive oil if a person has had his gallbladder removed? Won't it provoke a major spasm in the body to put straight oil into it?
I'm faced with this major dilemma right now, needless to say.
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