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- Expand 20 messages, 21 to 40 of 71 flagstaf
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- Re: THREE-LAC QUESTION stockwiz
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This is a reply to # 619,479I would tend to agree, that in the grand scheme of things, that the $50 you have to spend on a bottle of the stuff isn't really that expensive for the potential benefits.
What is it exactly that helps these bacteria survive the trip through the stomach in this product that other products don't have? I am just curious. I heard yeast mentioned.
I would like to weigh the benefits of other probiotics, kefir (which also has yeasts), and this product.
It's the hydroxygen that I'm more interested in acquiring and trying at this point.
Also, if you plan on ordering, EBAY has made the days of trying to resell at a profit futile. You can get the hydroxygen for $21.95 with FREE SHIPPING, and the three lac for $50 with modest shipping, or both for $65 with modest shipping.
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- Hydroxygen and 3lac flagstaf
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MoreThis is a reply to # 619,514hydroxygen is nothing more that sulfuric acid. except that the hydrogen carries a neutron (a neutral particle). chemists will tell you that this extra neutron will slow a reaction down by approx. 50%. Big deal!!!!
so now all you have is a $25 bottle of water with a few drops of sulfuric acid in it. and this sulfuric acid just reacts at a slower rate than other sulfuric acid.
correct me if i am wrong but this is one of the most disgusting of all rip offs that i have ever heard of.
this sounds like trickery at its finest.
i think that ed mccabe is a big crook and deserves to go back to PRISON.
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- Re: Hydroxygen and 3lac lapis
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my friend bought the product and i was suspicious. he is always claiming that he gets cured with every new product. i was skeptical when i saw a chemical listed as D2SO4 on the label, but the ingredients called it sulfuric acid. the only thing that i could come up with is that heavy hydrogen compounds can slow down reactions -- that is all. i fail to see what is so magical about that. however, there could be .....i just don't know. i think it is a big scam.
the owner of the company did hard time. he does not hide the fact. he even writes about it in his latest book. however, he claims that the govt accused him of being a martian or something like that. actually that is a bit of an exageration but it is along those lines.- Re: i got the information from... lapis
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This is a reply to # 619,524I'll look into it further. Doing hard time in the alternative health industry is usually a badge of honour when you study the political undertones of what is going on, so I won't hold that against him. Some of the greatest minds in history were killed for holding their beliefs.
- Re: i got the information from... lapis
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- Re: Hydroxygen and 3lac lapis
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- Hydroxygen and 3lac flagstaf
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This is a reply to # 619,433
I for one LOVE Threelac and Hydroxygen because it made a huge differance in my life. But thats not what I wanted to post to you about.
I would like to offer to send you FREE of charge I will even pay for the shipping to send you a free sample bottle of the oxygen and a few packets of the Threelac. I know you have talked about muscle testing and thought maybe you would like to test the products yourself maybe on youeself,wife,friends just wanted to offer this to you since you sound like you really like researching products. If you would like to take me up on this offer please email me knew2stock@aol.com.
I would be glad to put in the mail on monday.
God bless and hope everyone is having a great weekend.
P.S. I know you are not negetive about Threelac because you have stated before how it is helping some people. So this does not pertain to you but I wonder how many who put Threelac and Hydroxygen down have ever tried it? I do not understand how anyone can talk poorly about the product if they havent tried it themselves?
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STOCKWICZ posted this -------> "Oxygen Elements Plus, on the other hand, is a different story. It takes a route to oxygenation of the body that very few other makers of oxygen supplements have done. Most oxygen supplements are composed of peroxides or chlorites that are immediately assimilated in the stomach and intestines, with the actual amount reaching the bloodstream in question depending on the quantity taken. Using hydrogen sulfate ions will allow assimilation into the bloodstream and a delayed reaction in release of oxygen, as the hydrogen sulfate reacts with various positively charged radicals in the bloodstream. This product might well be worth the money for what it does. I would have to test it first, and probably will."
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the more i think about it the more ridiculous it sounds. acid is acid. stockwicz, where are you getting your info from? can you back it up. you mention sulate ions. you have ions all over your body. you have ions in your stomach from HCl acid which gets neutralized by bicarbonate that is released by the pancreas.
the bicarbonate is going to (in a split second) neutralize the sulfuric acid 9hydroxygen/oxygen elements) rendering it useless.
someone correct me if i am wrong. one of you salespeople out there ---point me to the truth!!! but i think i know the truth and it is that hydroxygen is worthless.
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This is a reply to # 619,531Wow! What got you so fired up? Have you even tried these products?
I have been fighting candida for several years, tried a million different things from medicines to natural supplements and major diet change. I started Threelac and hydroxygen 5 weeks ago, mainly because there is a money back guarantee. I was hopeful but very skeptical.
Hmmmm, there is noticeable change for the better!
EPP- Re: hydroxygen, flagstaf flagstaf
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This is a reply to # 619,534how do you know you are fighting it? if you are, then there is something else going on with you that needs to be solved.
have i tried it? doing so right now. i experiment with everything. my friend bought a case of hydroxygen (qty 17) plus 3lac. he tries everything that has a money back guarantee. the MLM people offer this because they know that less than 2% of the people will return it.
we are returning everything empty for a refund.
if you want a good probiotic go with VSL#3 from italy. it is used by cedar sinai hospital for their IBS program. 450 billion bacteria per packet. nothing comes close!
primal defense 3x's per day would give you the same or much better results.
the hydroxygen is a completely worthless product.- Re: hydroxygen, flagstaf raider
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- Re: Threelac Response LeagueCity
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I can honestly say that I've tried BioHealth Diagnostics testing, Trace Elements hair analysis, parasite treatments, and every vitamin and mineral supplement available and nothing helped as much as Threelac. I have taken Threelac for two months and I just added the Hydroxygen Plus last week. I have had SIGNIFICANT improvement with Threelac, and NO I don't sell nor do I ever intend to sell it. For those of you who have negative things to say about the product, maybe it didn't work for you, maybe you have other problems, (bacterial, viral, parasites, etc). It has been a blessing for me. It's all about trial and error with your health. I have tried other probiotics that did absolutely nothing. As far as the Hydroxygen, I haven't used it long enough to make an accurate assessment. If you're thinking about using the product I would recommend trying it. It might not work for you, but it's been one of the best products I've ever used.- Re: Threelac Response Robbie
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This is a reply to # 619,546If you had really read the many post about this product, you will find that NO one has anything negative to say regarding the product. We were only disputing the FACT that IT IS NOT A CURE ALL. YOU HAVE TO GET TO THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM (TOXIC OVERLOAD IN THE BODY)TO COMPLETELY ERRADICATE THE HIDIOUS PROBLEMS THAT CANDIDA HAS CAUSED SO MANY PEOPLE. Candida is only a syptom of a toxic body and cleansing the liver will get down to the ROOT of this problem to bring on more permanent relief, NOT ONLY TEMPORARY RELIEF. WHY NOT GO DEEP INTO THE CAUSE.
Robbie- nothing special about threelac flagstaf
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This is a reply to # 619,548the only thing i said about 3lac was that there was nothing special about it.
before anyone spends another penny on it i would do a search of VSL#3. this is a probiotic that could really be special. i was on it for 3 months and then i switched back to primal defense, but i think i am getting ready to switch back to it. eventually i would like to take both products together.
VSL#3 is made in Italy and each packet has 450 billion (yes, 450 BILLION) live bacteria per packet. But each packet will set you back $2.65
but you can stretch it out by consuming a 1/4 of a packet per day which still leaves you with 112 billion bacteria per day.
nothing else comes close.
VSL#3 is used by cedar sinai hospital in NYC for the IBS program. I trust it a lot more than a product that comes from a pyramid scheme.
- Re: nothing special about threelac Robbie
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Hi Flagstaf,
I have just started kefir grains and from all the research I have found on these grains it is a very good probiotic as well. I like it because it is a living organism and I ferment it in goat's milk which is different for me from growing up on cow's milk, but I like the way it taste and people into kefir are sincere and will send you the grains for free, No one trying to make money, just help people as they have been helped by this stuff.
To early to tell a difference yet but Bone, Keason and Hopinso recommend them. I'm sorry but I don't trust the pyrimid scheme type of companies either from personal experience. And if a company comes out with a really good product, The tactics of these other companies have made it hard for those that has an integrity based product that could do someone some good.
BUt on the other hand, If the threelac has helped some, this is good a good thing, but NOT a cure all.
Robbie- Re: nothing special about threelac lapis
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This is a reply to # 619,550I agree Robbie. Kefir is beneficial as well. You may alo want to consider lacto-fermented veggies.
- kefir grains flagstaf
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This is a reply to # 619,550this is something that i have never heard of. i did try kefir a few years ago and I had a horrible reaction to it. But that is because i am allergic to cow's milk. After just 3 months I became allergic to goat milk.
i had such a bad reaction to the kefir that i am wondering if it had to do with some of the yeast fermentation that takes place with respect to kefir.
i used to ferment saurkraut but even that got to me. later i learned that it is very high in yeast.
i am going to have to investigate kefir again.
- Re: nothing special about threelac lapis
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- Re: nothing special about threelac lapis
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This is a reply to # 619,549How many viable microflora per gram does VL#3 contain?. Do they have a website?
The best I have found to date is iFlora by Sedona labs. This product has 16 viable strains including a very effective strain known as lactobacillus sporenges. (great for candida overgrowth).- iflora flagstaf
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This is a reply to # 619,551my friend buys iflora but i can't take it because they cut it with rice powder. iflora has 30 billion per gram which translates into 15 billion per capsule. this translates into 900 billion bacteria per bottle.
therefore, you can take a whole bottle of iflora or 2 packets of VSL#3 and both will deliver the same number of bacteria ---- 900 billion. economically speaking (if it is just based on bacterial counts) then VSL#3 is a much better buy. ( $5.40 vs Iflora $22.00 ???????)
iflora must have pulled the sporogenes bacteria from the product because it is no longer there. also they have a yeast formula with only 6 strains and no sporogenes.
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This is a reply to # 619,553I just buhgt some iflora and the sporenges is still in it. It was fresh stock.
Anyway, what strains does the VSL#3 include and what is the substrate?- Re: iflora flagstaf
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This is a reply to # 619,554VSL#3
Streptococcus thermophilus
Bifidobacterium breve
Bifidobacterium longum
Bifidobacterium infantis
Lactobacillus acidophilus
Lactobacillus plantarum
Lactobacillus casei
Lactobacillus bulgaricus
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450 billion 1 packet
http://www.vslpharma.com/vsl3/composition.htm
The carrier is corn starch which concerned me because i am extremely intolerant/allergic to corn. However, there was no reaction to it at all. it must be pure with no protein residue.
16 strains in regular formula of Iflora
Bifidobacterium bifidum
Bifidobacterium breve
Bifidobacterium infantis
Bifidobacterium lactis
Bifidobacterium longum
Lactobacillus acidophilus
Lactobacillus brevis
Lactobacillus bulgaricus
Lactobacillus casei
Lactobacillus gasseri
Lactococcus lactis
Lactobacillus paracasei
Lactobacillus plantarum
Lactobacillus rhamnosus
Lactobacillus salivarius
Streptococcus thermophilus
Iflora of yeast formula
OUR LINEUP OF 6 DIFFERENT STRAINS OF CULTURES WILL GIVE YOU POSITIVE RESULTS FOR YEAST & CANDIDA PROBLEMS
Bifidobacterium Lactis
Lactobacillius Acidophilus
Lactobacillus Bulgaricus
Lactobacillus Casei
Lactobacillus Rhamnosus
Streptococcus Thermophilus
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