You place your soul's development in a lengthier state of irregularity, that's why.

You are going against the decision that you made to come into this existence with the intent of rising above your challenges, that's why.

In simple terms, suicide is indeed a cop-out - on many levels, earthly and spiritual, that's why.

You will damage every relationship that you've ever had since the beginning of "time" (in this life, previous lives, and future lives), that's why.

You will great a domino effect that will endanger the development of souls throughout "eternity", that's why.

In all, if suicide is committed, one misses one of the most awesome opportunities for spiritual growth one will ever have - and one will that have to go back to "square one."

That's why.

here is some great research for you to look at regarding those who have attempted suicide, had an nde, and came back to their body.

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/suicide02.html

this is from the same site, if you scroll down you see a bunch of links at the bottome that will take you to all kinds of great info about nde's and suicide.

http://www.near-death.com/suicide.html


i recently read the book "mans search for meaning" by viktor frankl. it sounds like a very deep philosophical treatment, but its not. its about a very famous pychologists' first hand experience as a prisoner in the nazi concentration camps. its an absolutely amazing book. he talks about suffering, the nature of suffering, why we go thru suffering, and how we can make the most of it. its a short book and easy to read, wel well worth the time and effort. you can find it on amazon used for next to nothing.

i will say a prayer for you and i hope that you find some help and some relief. keep seeking the truth.

You have many friends here - and you are never alone.

Having been to the other side... this side sometimes looks pretty grim. I have asked God to let me go home(heaven) literally hundreds of times... I lived with about 4-5 pain for 20 years with about five years at 8-9 pain. Even though I asked God to let me die...hundreds of times... I held up short of killing myself. I asked God to kill me many times but God is not in the killing business. It was a hollow prayer. Death comes soon enough though.

If God was not going to kill me and I was not going to kill myself then I was going to have to do something about this pain...but for 20 years that never happened...in fact...I even reinjured my neck twice....it was so bad that I would hear ringing in my ears from the pain... I couldn't even turn my neck...frozen like a brick for years at a time. I went to an accupuncturist(Jampa Stewart) in Austin, Texas who I heard was more than just an accupuncturist.... for severe hest pain I had from having what I thought was a heart attack(it ended up being some terrible caffeine related addiction problems). On the first visit, he stuck a bunch of pins in me but there was a cloud that surrounded me while he performed the accupuncture... I was amazed but after 20 years, one visit to Jampa and my neck was healed. It was amazing. I can now turn my neck freely with very little immobility. Now I take lots of antioxidants to maintain my neck health and get occasional massage but the neck pain is gone. I survived it and now I have to have another reason to want to go home...but I am still here... I still long for home...to where "my kind" live in a perfect world of loving kindness...but I am still here...so I must have some more lessons to learn...not about overcoming pain...anymore but there is still much left to learn... Magnanimity
is the lesson I want to learn in the physical world while I need to learn about love in the spiritual. Magnanimity is being bigger than the problems I face...being the bigger person when I could be small...taking the higher path when I could have taken the easier and lesser path .... that and helping others... it seems that helping others is a good way to create a structure for building a soul in heaven...

If I am going to stay here, I might as well try to stay as pain free as I can and help others but either way, killing one's self stops the opportunity for learning the lessons we came here to learn....and the pain, which may have dogged us for years may some day end... A few needles fixed me... but there may be something that in a moment can do the same for you.... I am at 0-2 pain from just living these days...but a few years ago...I could not have even imagined what that was like. I went back to school, started a club to help out in my community, suffered, married and divorced twice...and believe that was like dying and worse than any physical pain, I have endured.... and even today... I can't seem to find my place in this world...but I am not going to kill myself... and if I die...then let it come...but I am going to try to avoid injuring myself again.......and killing one's self is the opposite of healing... Be bigger than that and some day...you might be suprised...

Hi Jimman19,
There is a God and there is loving kind spirits. We are also spirits ourselves. First you have to understand that God will never interfere in the "free will of man". This is a gift he made and a promise he keeps. We could not learn everything we need to learn if he has to constantly intervene in our lives. He is there for the asking though just as any good parent is. All you have to do is pray, you may not get an answer immediately but this is where faith comes in. You chose to come here by your own choice and the last thing God wants for someone is to hurt themselves. You also have to learn to trust the holy spirit that all things will be fine. You also have to take responbility for yourself and your spirituality. If you are in emotional trouble, then seek help. Go to a prayer group or what ever it takes to gain back who you are. One does not wake up one day and suddenly just say I do not want to live anymore. Nor does one wake for instance and say they want to be a drug addict for instance. You are what you allow yourself to become. YOu have to be the one to bring yourself back with God's help. He never said it would be easy down here. But he did say he would be there for us. Life is beautiful through the eyes of the beholder. You have it within your power to be whatever you want to be, and understand that I am not talking of the carnal nature of man. I am not talking about money, power or greed. I am talking about love for yourself and others. When you hurt yourself, never doubt you are also hurting someone else? Is that fair, you can even say it is cruel. So why would someone want to hurt themselves if they know they will bring destruction to others. Suicide then becomes a selfish act of the party who is doing it. Mankind has brought about their own destruction, God did not have a thing to do with this. So mankind will have to bring themsleves out of it, but we have to realize that it must be with God's help. This is why prayer is so important, whether it is for one person or many. We have to turn back to him and ask for the help we need. Second, it takes some willpower from the person asking as well. Do we make a mockery of the the man who died on the cross for us, should we? He did not think so, he thought you and everyone else was worth dying for and took it upon himself to do so. Hoe can such a great gift be given and one not see the value in it. He valued you enough 2000 years ago, why can you not then value yourself enough then? Everybody has pains and problems and alot o people do not get what they want in life, but this is the material life that they think of , not what God wants for us. it says seek the kingdom of God first and all good things shall come. In other words, your main goal is to seek his will, not your own. Once you do this, then you can see the value of yourself and others. I hope this helps. You are in my prayers.