My Lyme Treatment Battle Plan 
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Please forgive me if this is at all incoherent, my symptoms are very bad right now but I've put off typing this up for too long.
Lesson number one for me was that with Lyme, any protocol takes time to work and not to give up after a week if I don't notive any changes. Often in takes up to 3 months or more to notice any positive benefits. But judging from the herxheimer reactions I'm already having (and I might add completely without Antibiotics ), I think this stuff is working.
My approach is three pronged:
1. Kill the little buggers
2. Cleanse and make sure detox channels are open and ready to bear the heavy toxic die-off load
3. Immune system and whole body health building...i.e. rebuilding my body
Killing them:
Still working this out and it may also be a direct result of steps 2 and 3. Actually, cleansing and rebuilding are both step number 1, killing the rascally varmints is step 2.
But part of this involves taking cat's claw (samento).
Also part of the killing plan involves killing off the candida overgrowth that is currently raging in my body. My candida protocol involves no sugar, wheat, or fruit (candida diet) as well as caprylic acid, grapefruit seed extract, oil of oregano, and olive leaf extract. Side effects: severe nausea, intense lethargy and loss of appetite, and weight loss (WAHOOOO!!!! FINALLY!!!!!). I am also taking coconut oil as both an antifungal and to help my poor little thyroid because my body temp is 97.1.
Cleansing:
I am getting weekly colonics. They are invaluable, but again, patience is required. Also some Far Infrared Sauna , manual lymph drainage massage, Liver Flushes ( Hulda Clark ), bowel cleansing (Schulze), kidney cleansing.
I am also taking chlorophyll as a great bowel detoxifier, german homeopathics for liver: Hepatica and for kidneys Solidago, also taking Clarkia which is causing nausea but hey that means it's working, right? :) Warm water with lemon every morning. Detox bath with baking soda, salt, epsom, hydrogen peroxide, depending on how I feel. And Nature's Sunshine Everybody's Fiber. Also getting as much sunshine as I can.
I am also using detox foot pads. I believe Kinotakara are the best brand but they are so expensive so I got some cheaper ones. Also Noni juice for intestinal toning.
Building:
Dr. Schulze 's Superfood
Fatigued to Fantastic daily energy infusion
5-HTP
Acetyl-L Carnitine
Colostrum
CoQ10
DHEA
Gingko
Ginseng
Licorice
Magnesium/Malic acid
N-Acetyl L Cytesine
Niacin
Probiotics
Raw garlic
Salt (natural squishy Sea Salt )
Vitamin B complex
Astragalus
Whew! Lots of stuff. I'm sure I forgot something and I'm still refining everything, but that's where it stands now.
I have been doing this for about a month now...and giving myself three months to re-evaluate and so forth. I am only just about to start the Samento so I am still on the fence as to whether or not to do Antibiotics . It is a tough decision when you're this sick with a pathogen that can sleep in your cells for 14 years at a time.
Once I get more strength I will start a blog.... :)
Blessings,
Alison
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- Re: My Lyme Treatment Battle Plan lisag
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This is a reply to # 52,578I think you forgot something - just kidding! :-)
I got a kick out of your 'kill the rascally varmint' train of thought. i think you have a good outline, but that sounds like a wee bit too many supplements at once! have you considered getting muscle tested for the supplements, to make sure that they all agree with your body? i've found that my body is pretty picky - doesn't want all the supplements that i'm willing to try. also i'd start slowly, possibly rotating them, just for troubleshooting purposes. if your body has a negative response to one of them -you wouldn't know which one caused the negative reaction if you start them all at once (and i do realize it can be tough to figure out if its a true negative reaction, or just die-off).
by the way, there's one other treatment that i know of that i think is worth mentioning - the bowen technique (yes, the same bowen that does the bowen lab test). the technique is named for Tom Bowen, a guy in australia who cured many people of serious illness. its a hands on technique that uses cross-wise touching motions across different parts of the body. i've had it done once, it is excellent. unbelievable response for such a light touch. and it deals with all systems, immune, glandular, nerve, etc... joanne whitaker, the lady that developed the bowen lyme blood test, says that in 7 bowen sessions lyme can be greatly reduced. she's a 'master practicioner' and she teaches it. there's some interesting reading out on the bowen org, http://www.bowen.org/index_013.htm. here's one site that has a listing of practicioners http://www.bowendirectory.com/ the bowen technique works on creating balance, as opposed to Antibiotics ...
speaking of Antibiotics , they can bring on other problems, they're really good at putting things out of balance. (like candida) there's all sorts of stories out there (just like there's all sorts of bodies out there). i know a guy that did intravenous Antibiotics for a month, then took pill antibiotics for another 3 months... at the end of that time, he had a whopping case of food allergies , which he'd never had in his life. there was a thread on curezone about antibiotics awhile back, if i find it i will post it. basically people were saying negative things about their experience. have you decided against a homeopathic nosode?
LisaG
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Re: My Lyme Treatment Battle Plan Lapis
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This is a reply to # 52,578Just one more idea to waggle in front of you :-)
If you have a hyperberic chamber in your area this can be a very powerful way to get oxygen deep into tissue which has very beneficial effects. Pathogens and oxygen don't mix.
- Re: My Lyme Treatment Battle Plan lisag
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This is a reply to # 52,578P.S. I just tried doing a pendulum for testing supplements/products... was suprised at how well it worked. since i didn't trust it i tested it a bit and it seems to work. its cheaper than going to a person that does kinesiology... i just used a wooden one, they cost about $15 bucks. just thought i'd pass that on.
the only trick is that in order for it to work, your body has to try the supplement first. then it works by saying 'supplement x is good for my body' and there will either be no energy to move the pendulum, or it'll move back and forth, (which is a no answer). for the statements that are true, a yes answer, the pendulum will go around in a circle.
- Re: All Excellent Ideas alisaun
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This is a reply to # 52,578Thank you guys! I am definitely considering all of the things you mentioned.
Lisa, about the pendulum stuff...I use a sort of similar method to test to see if what I'm taking is right for my body. I don't have to take anything, I just hold it in my hands and my body will tell me yes or no. Some people do this and close their eyes and if they lean towards the item it is a yes, and if they lean away from the item it is a no.
Bowen....yes! I found a practitioner in my area so I am definitely going to be settting up an appointment or three with him. I'm very happy to have this in my area.
Lapis...HBOT...all the way. This is a bit more logistically problematical because I don't know of anyone in my area who has a chamber and I haven't been able to dig one up. But I'm sure there has to be one around, as I live in the Sf Bay Area. Someone's gotta have it.
Rife...I may look at that a little down the road as an adjunct therapy. Vitamin C a big yes, I just have to get my big old tub of vitamin C powder out of storage from our move (now what box did I put it in? lol). Also, my bowel titration is so low right now, so I am going to work in more vitamin C as my bowel becomes a bit more clear and strengthened.
I really do feel that immunity is in the bowel and I have a lot of work to do as far as getting that up and running again. Bowel cleansing was not enough for me, although it did help greatly.
So far, it's been just a little over a month. Do I feel any better? No! Not even a little bit. I feel worse, but that's to be expected as I know I am expereincing major die-off. However, I am losing a ton of weight. It is just coming off me like gangbusters. My appetite is low but any and all cravings for any kind of food are completely gone.
I was also able to clear up some heavy strain on my kidneys over the past 2 weeks, so that's good. I will continue to make sure kidneys are taken care of though.
Thank you so much for your input...great ideas. I'll keep you posted!
Alison- Re: All Excellent Ideas lisag
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This is a reply to # 52,587speaking of immunity being in the stomach, there's one more thing... castor oil packs. i started doing them a while back, and a few days/weeks after I started, i had this dream that green plants were growing.... fields of them, and the message was that they were difficult to grow. well dreaming is my thing, and the first thing i thought of in regards to that dream was, "good, the packs are working." Edgar Cayce did say that one purpose of castor oil packs was to 'grow immunity' in the gut, by growing the peyer's patches. here's a link about it...
http://www.edgarcayce.org/th/tharchiv/research/longevity.html
in regards to supplements, i do the same thing - hold the bottle and tune in. i take a resting 'pulse' by listening to my body for a moment before holding the supplement, and then hold it and take another looksee. but the pendulum is a nice add-on to that. when i go to whole foods and hang around the nutrition center, i look pretty funny - not moving, eyes closed, just getting info. I gotta say though, with my current physical condition, staying still and tuning in is harder than it should be!
Lisa
- that weight loss Wrenn
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This is a reply to # 52,587proves you are releasing stored toxins !!
super !!
no wonder you feel like crap lol *( poor baby 8(
but you know , as a long time curezone member,
that this is just temporary .. as a part of getting toxins out.
focus too on keeping that imune system high as we near winter.
glad to hear you are releasing all that now!
and remember that this also shows that your body in ready to handle
releasing this stuff/ or you would not be losing the wt like that.
(i know you already know this 8)
I so hope that you wills ee the upsurge end of this soon,
I am laying odds on 6 -8 weeks from now you will see great
differences in renewed energy and immunal function.
I am sure you will see those differences sooner,
but on a continual level by then fo sure.
Love to you ,
as always
Ami Joi Benton .
I am so happy that you found out the cause
of what has been a horrible period of time for you ,
and now you have a *known enemy * to zero in on ,
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This is a reply to # 52,591Ami,
Thank you! I needed the reminder! I hadn't been thinking about the weight loss as detoxing, but of course you're right and it is! Wahoo!
And yes - it's good to know my enemy. This is a fascinating disease in all that it can do to evade the immune system.
Ali
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- Re: All Excellent Ideas Renay
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This is a reply to # 52,587Alison-
About HBOT. Mitch Hoggard has a center in Chico and in Sacramento. Their e-mail is : info@HBOToday.com. He is lyme literate and has done research with Ritchie Shoemaker author of Desperation Medicine and physician behind http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com. Anyway Mitch can definitely help you if you are interested in HBOT.
By the way who is your doctor associated with the Bowen's testing? I am in the East Bay area and trying to make a contact. I am in Fairfield.
Renay- Re: All Excellent Ideas alisaun
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This is a reply to # 52,612Thanks for the HBOT info Renay. I have e-mailed you with info about doctors in the Bay Area.
Alison
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- Natures Antibiotic/ pau d arco Wrenn
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This is a reply to # 52,578incredible against yeast and also a superior immune builder and even
a natural antibiotic.
you can get single herb extract of it for about 8 at direct link below,
once get to the page just scroll down
http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/extract/n-z.php
it covers and array of dis-eases it is effective against.
also use tea or dilution of it in ear wash or plain h2o 3 %
since yeast molds fungus and microbes etc often harbor there
you can make a douche with pau d arco tea and that can help
kill off yeast there as well .
a side quote from a segment of a answer Andreas gave a person
concerning Pau d arco: (the herb he was referring to ..
as a natural Antibiotic ,
the post was NOT about lyme)
"Avoid anitbiotics if possible. Pau d' Arco (4 capsules 3 times daily) is just as effective an antibiotic, but with zero side-effects :"
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and here is another douche as well with marigold and echinachea
for yeast and a candida tea drink
(you can get bulk herbs really cheap btw at this company organic
and most are grown by them.
I get all my herbals from them and most of my
other stuff as far as personal needs from
http://www.dragonherbs.com
hope this helps you
Ami Joi Benton
- Re: Natures Antibiotic/ pau d arco alisaun
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This is a reply to # 52,590Ami,
At one point I had gotten about a 5 pound bag of the purest, most wonderful Pau D/Arco that I decocted myself three times a day and took faithfully for a month. I have also taken the capsules as the wonderful Andreas recomends.
Unfortunately, I noticed absolutely zero improvement. I mean nothing. Nada. Zilch. I don't know why, I just know that it didn't work.
I was disappointed to say the least. I'm sure Pau d'arco is great, but it wasn't working for me, as much as I desperately wanted it to.
Because of things like this happening, this is why I am considering taking Antibiotics to get the spirochete load down. This disease is incredibly powerful, smart, and extremely tenacious. I have thought about this for months and really agonized over this decision.
I really struggled with this decision, but honestly a couple of months of abx will not kill me, I know the dangers and pitfalls and I know how to care for my body in a way that will make it easier to handle the Antibiotics . And so far nothing else is working. And I have GOT to start getting better. And I am just raging with spirochetes at the moment -- my load is incredibly high.
The marigold/ecinacea sounds wonderful though - I'm all over that!
Ali
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- Re: My Lyme Treatment Battle Plan wethepeople
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This is a reply to # 52,578Hi Alison,
You are correct, Kinotakara is the best detox pad on the market and it is expensive. If you are interested I do have a small supply of Kinotakara that I could sell at a fair cost.
E-mail me for more details
Lee
- Re: My Lyme Treatment Battle Plan #52025
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This is a reply to # 52,578Here's an interesting article by someone with lyme doing another type of battle plan. The basic goals are the same, but using some different types of treatments, which may be complementary to what you are doing.
http://www.successfulhealing.com/Lyme-Disease-Specific-Wellness-Pla...
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