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i hear a lot of you all talking about salvia..have most of you used shrooms, lsd, peyote,morning glory,marijuana or other things to help achieve the level of consciousness..i would appreciate if as many people responded as possible..just want to get a feel for how many have been assisted by conscious altering substances or not..if this is inappropriate on this forum i would also appreciate if you said something..im not trying to offend anyone here..just wondering..
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This is a reply to # 498,342I am familar with these. I will not at this point consider laboratory chemicals yet do not discount reverential plant allies I am still communicating with one.
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Hi Scorpioeyes...
I have taken LSD, mushrooms & grass.
I think I'm pretty much done with all of them now...you 'get' it and then that's that! I always took the LSD and mushrooms for experimental and consciousness reasons - NOT entertainment - I didn't do it lightly.
I would like to explore Salvia now...
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This is a reply to # 498,342I've done LSD in the 70's. But I learned how they deprive you of the more percertive attributes of yourself. So I don't recommend drugs as it took me 20 years to even start to recoup my lost senses and intuitive perceptions. If you do drugs you are truly lost. - Re: trips alison
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MoreThis is a reply to # 498,342Hi Scorpioeyes. I have experienced various drugs, particularly plant allies, mushrooms... I have had many profound consciousness altering and expanding experiences that have given me total new awareness. I gained a total new sense of Reality/realities and of my Self in this reality. Transcendence.
My experiences with these consciousness expanding substances have given me so much knowledge and understanding that I feel I was some how meant to learn in this way.
I know some people achieve this awareness and understanding through meditation and although I do enjoy yoga and breathing exercises, I am still practising quieting my mind in breathing, enough to meditate and I have not yet achieved that state.
I'll keep at it though!
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Darlin', those aren't realities. Those are illusions. If you don't pay attention and stand home, you may lose this reality. It isn't very sweet, But there are feelings here you will forget and they take a very long time to come back. Maybe you won't miss them, but when or if they start coming back, your heart will ache for having been without them for so long. They are very tender and invigorating, I love them for I can't ever think of being without them ever again!!!- Re: trips - right or wrong?? huh? Tracey
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This is a reply to # 498,385Longthought,
Those 'realities' are just as 'real' as this one.
Have you read this most interesting Near Death Experience?
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This is a reply to # 498,387I've done drugs and I've been off them for a long time. I wrecked a lot of good friendships because I wanted a different existance in which I could be less encumbered bythe restraints of those who were more concerned that I follow their rules. I wanted to ride Dragons and flail around with sword's. When those realities start to turn on you then you will find how desperate soul can blind themselves to what "strength of soul" can do in this reality. Ok, this reality, as a reference to the spirit is considered a dream state. A sad one. But the one we chose spiritually. But once you walk into your other realities you will find how fragile they are sewn together. I htink you should understand htis is not hte only time these herbs have made people dream of different realities. And strangely there is no underground with information on how to reach those places.- Re: trips - right or wrong?? huh? Tracey
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Longthought...your experiences are yours just like mine is mine.
I haven't wrecked any relationships nor did I desire to ride Dragons and flail around with swords...none of what you described as your experience resonates with me at all. So...you gotta give us the benefit of the doubt....we're on our own Path's doing our own things for our own reasons...just as you are.
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This is a reply to # 498,394What your expecting from this will never be delivered. If you can't reach nirvana thru your own hands, then how can you ask something you ingest to bring you to a place that you deny that plant?
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This is a reply to # 498,390I agree with tracey. There are infinite realities and different people chose different ones at different times. It's all part of the perfect universe. Duality consciousness (ego) often looks for the illusionary comfort zone. Fear can keep us in that very comfort zone (locked in tight). What if someone didn't have a comparative? They wouldn't know then, that expericne A was 'better than" experience B. It's ALL experience. All things permissable in the creation.
Also we frame things as to whether they are preceived as good or bad. Another illusionary filtering process projected out of ego.
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This is a reply to # 498,399And who detemines what is permissable in creation? Is it based on your decision or can we all have a say in this. "Aye, there's the rub." If it was just you then no one could argue. But then all is not permissable in all of creation, because all of creation does not answer to your decisions. There is a universal congress involved in the decisions. We all have a say. And I don't think we are all inclined to let evil have the run of the place strictly because its the civilized way. There are those who feel that holding the gate is our way to true salvation. Regretably, those who can't pass muster will fall b7 the way.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 498,399Thanks Lapis and Tracey for expressing that so well. I totally agree with what you are both saying.
love Alison
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This is a reply to # 498,385I believe there are so many realities and levels of existence. I am also very aware of this one. The experiences I've had were special and I never treated any of these substances lightly, nor did I use these consciousness altering substances to try to escape this world.
Okay sure, in the past I have used some substances for fun, but certainly not usually and not all.
What is illusion anyway and what is not?
As far as this reality, I love it, love life, love knowledge. I haven't forgotten or hidden any feelings I have in this world. A lot of my experiences refer to my past, but not all of them. I was never seeking to escape, I was seeking expansion!
I am in touch with my feelings and boy do I FEEL and I am clear about being clear and seeing myself and this world through very aware eyes. Yes, I agree I wouldn't want to be without my feelings, that would be terrible! To be so out of touch... but I am not out of touch.
Thank you for expressing your concern and wisdom from your own experience of losing touch with yourself in this world. I do appreciate it.
A lot of people don't have such positive experiences either. They feel afraid or whatever and don't feel enriched by it at all, so it's definitely not for everyone.
Some people end up feeling depressed and cut off, so I'm glad you mentioned some negative aspects of "trips". I meant to add that kind of thing too, that for some people it can lead to suffering or at least total confusion.
love Alison
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This is a reply to # 498,391Actually, the basis is that there are three types of interconnecting energies. Male, Female and Neutral. Male is the aggresive energy, female is the accepting energy and the neutral is the sleeping energy. It nullifies overactive surges and keeps things within safe limits. Just like the fulcrum. You move to the left and you can move to the right, then you can also balance in the center.
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This is a reply to # 498,395What your expecting from this will never be delivered. If you can't reach nirvana thru your own hands, then how can you ask something you ingest to bring you to a place that you deny that plant?
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Too late? Explain? Is eternity too late? Too late for what?
Trading one illusion for another. My thought is are we getting closer to the unveiled truth by any of our experiences.
Judgement, I believe, just sends us down another illusive attractor program. But again, hey, all is permissible in the patient universe.
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This is a reply to # 498,401All is permissable in your universe. Some of us just don't want to be in the same place as an unrepentent serial murderer. Too late? Some people are just so stuck that they debate themselves to forgiveness. We, who look at creation, understand that corruption and destruction can't exist in the same house as creation because they are at cross purposes. Those who can't see it are playing with matches and find their adrenaline up in the candle wick. It stands that we all want to go home and celebrate life. But it is also understood that the list is restricted, you can't crash the party. Being a christian, carries the knowledge that friends and family will be left behind because you can't whitewash the hole where your heart used to be. You can't tell me what is right and what is wrong in my own home. And I'll just leave you to being late.
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This is a reply to # 498,403Ah I get it. The old stuck paradigm of daddy god syndrome.
Now I understand the vantage point. Just another hat to try on. Cool enjoy it. Been ther done that moved on and lost my fear in the process.
So I guess you belive in the big showdown between Satan and God huh? Duality consciousness...what a trip.
Oh and we are saved though Jesus right. *sigh*
so I guess "all these things you will do and more" was hype?- Expand 20 messages, 21 to 40 of 72 longthought21
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