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Madelle
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I am on round 2 of paragone - it is going alright, lots of stuff coming out, but not as much as round #1, but then my "moon" came and I am really miserable! I mean, pms is soemthing I deal with - the this month it is in all CAPS - my poor partner. . . has been really patient and supportive of all the changes in diet, the cleanses. . . but this mood swing - could be die-off, yes? could be just hormones. I mean, my whole body seems to be in slow down. . .felt constipated on the paragone for 4 days (quite the opposite from round #1 with liquid stool for days) no appetite, really sleepy. . . I feel like just crawling into bed and staying there for days. . . this is not like me! I am only 1/2 way through this round of paragone - going to stick with it - 'cause I tell you, I just don't want to start over! That is the only thing that is keeping me going on with it - and not stopping altogether.
Anyone else feel like this? I mean, I cannot stand this mood - and my brain fog is returning! I fought candida and parasites now for months, and got the brain for lifted - and now it is coming back. . .too scarey to think about. I am going to go Scarlett O'Hara for a while. . . .
Madie
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This is a reply to # 467,627Madie, being male, I don't have the obvious issues that you may be describing, but are you sure it's the parasite stuff? I went through round one with ParaGone and didn't feel any different at ALL. Pooped a lot of weird looking things that I would always flush in a panic, but no mood swings or anything that you are describing. Is this common among others on parasite cleanse stuff?
As you know, I'm doing the ParaStroy, which is really the same thing...and I'm using the ParaGone tincture along with the 2 dose per day program and I still don't feel anything weird or uncool.
In fact, I feel great! Clear head, plenty of energy, etc...
Strange...I hope you're OK. I would stick to the program and it should pass when it's all done. And I bet it'll be over before you know it.
I have also been getting more courageous about inspecting BM's...everything stays in the bowl, but breaking it apart, I have spotted some rather critter-like looking things. In fact, I'm convinced there has been (and are, in fact) critters. I may stay on an anti- parasite program forever if that is what has been going on inside me! Today, I observed what looked like 'sea legs' (that fake crab junk) that was about 2 inches long. Definitely not something I ate and looked very critter-like, kind of cream colored. Freaky stuff.
I would stick with this no matter what it made me feel like...I'm declaring my body OFF LIMITS TO CRITTERS!
Keep us posted...!
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- Re: Round 2 (Paragone) die-off ans h... #14911
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This is a reply to # 467,627I'mjust about to start round two. I was thinking and woudering if other people are getting this moody. If you think about it your releasing alot of stuff from your body and i would think this would also mean emotion. us girls seem to have a little more of this at times.- die off or hormones or both - just r... Madelle
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This is a reply to # 467,634GMS - your enthusiasm, descriptions offered, sense of humour - all VERY appreciated! I feel like you are a true leader among us "beginners - but hey, you're no longer new at this - finding so many "thingees"!
Ya- this mood, I mean, yuck! I have had pms before, but not toward the end. . . .we'll see in a couple of days how it goes - I AM sticking to this though. Made myself do housework and be busy today. . .I mean, the point is to enhance health and have life! Not to be wanting to crawl into bed and stay there. . .
One thing though. . .in all this parasite cleanse. . .I have lost weight - and that, for me, is not a bad thing at all. Between the Paragone, the P&B shakes and the water (I am ravenously thirsty ALL the time now) I just feel so full, that I have to force myself to eat - and am doing so in about 6 little snack size meals a day - it is hard to coordinate taking the Paragone and P&B at different times, AND on an empty stomach or 1.5 hours after eating. . .
I have been doing skin brushing - and some bouncing on the spot - 'cause the skin itching. . . not pleasant - but ohhhh what a wonderful feeling after skin brushing - I am hooked!
Well, it is late at night, and I feel a bit crampy - not woman stuff either, and sort of "up" but gotta get that sleep time in!
Anyone else on Paragone now? Round 1 or 2?
Madie- Re: die off or hormones or both - ju... Miss Scarletwhiskers
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This is a reply to # 467,635I have been on Paragone for a little over a week now. I've done it before, but am now discovering that I make ZERO process on it when I eat carbs in my diet (not including veggies).
So now I am finally doing it along with a diet consisting of only organic veggies, nuts, virgin coconut oil and extra virgin olive oil.
I am feeling better than I did last week (that is, when the die off is at a minimum). I am determined to keep this going until I can relieve the burdon of parasites from my liver. Then I will liver cleans and flush like MAD (so that they don't come back!) I've liver flushed about ten times prior to this parasite cleansing without much improvement. The only thing that it HAS taken away is the panic attacks I had started getting on a regular basis.
Today I have been experiencing constipation for the first time with this cleanse. Normally the diet of veggies and nuts makes me go ALL the time. But today I am constipated for some reason.
I also get the really horrible Depression with this cleansing. I mean, like "slit my wrists" kind of Depression (no, I would never do this). But I really notice my thoughts changing into negative ones only MINUTES after consuming my parasite/ Liver Cleansing herbs.
Right now I am taking Paragone, Dr. Schultze LGB formula, Dr. Schultze Detox formula, Primal Defense, Grapefruit seed extract, Lecithin capsules, and extra licorice root and milk thistle.
I am doing yoga every day, trying to stay eating the vata ayurvedic friendly foods, go to bed earlier and wake up earlier, I take flower essences for some emotional issues I seem to have, and do Emotional Freedom Technique before bed everynight.
If after a year on this strict regimen I still feel just as lousy as I have been before all this, well....I just won't let that be an option.
I am determined to get my life back. And If I can do it, I KNOW you can too! Keep it up! You will get there. But I TOTALLY understand about the wanting to crawl into bed and stay there for days. I have to fight it every day.
Keep up the good fight.
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This is a reply to # 467,655Annie - my thoughts are with you! I do know this is worth it, but wow, this has gotta pass (haha, I made a pun) and quickly! hen I got constipated, I used a bit of magnesium citrate (mix it with juice or something fizzy) and it sure helps. You have done 10 liver cleanses?
My first will be next weekend! I am going to complete this Paragone round - and prior to the cleanse, go fuids and no fat for a couple of days. I am not going to use Epsom Salts , but rather the magnesium citrate. Everything else will be done according to Dr. Clark's protocol - oil, joice, timing. . .
This weekend, superbowl, my parner cooked cajun - so I did eat o.k. - low carbs, except for Bismati (sp) rice - about 2 cups total - which is more carbs than I usually eat - I will have to see how I feel in the a.m from that!
Can you tell us more about the emotional freedom technique you use before bed?
GMS - when is your first liver flush? you will soon be done with round 2 as well, yes?
Madie
- Re: die off or hormones or both - ju... Miss Scarletwhiskers
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This is a reply to # 467,660There is this woman I work with that was trying to tell me that a lot of physical symptoms and illnesses have emotional roots to them. She told me about this technique, EFT, thåt is supposed to be really powerful to breåk the link that the brain often creåtes between certain memories and negåtive emotions/physical symptoms.
Kind of like when you smell a certain smell and instantly a memory is attatched to the smell, so can there be a link between memories and emotional and/or physical pain or illness.
I attended a workshop she gave on EFT, and it was really interesting. It involves using the acupressure points to tap on while saying certain possitive affirmations. This supposedly reprograms the brain to let go of that particular unhealthy link.
Me explaining this is probably doing it a great injustice. If you do want to learn more, there is a website where you can download the EFT manual for free. The guy kind of babbles a lot in it, but I think eventually you will get to the basics in how to do it.
I just wish we had an EFT forum here at curezone, because it seems like a lot of people are helped by it. Psychologists and Psychiatrists are now using it to help their patients.
Enough said. I am just sort of dabbling with it now. Maybe it's helping, maybe not. I can't tell yet.
Good luck!
Annie
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This is a reply to # 467,662I did this here in Indianapolis. Sounds like what I did anyway. But here it is called EPT. The chiropractor here is Dr. Cargioli. They have a websight that explains it a little. It is http://www.drcargioli.com if anyone is interested. They are great. Helped me a ton!
- Re: EFT it works Miss Scarletwhiskers
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This is a reply to # 467,663In what way did it help? I am very curious about this.
Were you able to do this on your own, or did you have to pay for each treatment? What does the EPT stand for?
Thanks..
Anni- Re: EFT it works RUDOLPHKT
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This is a reply to # 467,664I forget what EPT stands for. You will have to check out the websight.
What it did? I had an eye sergury when I was 2 and they didnt use enough anesthesia. So I was traumatized from it. Long story short, the EPT assisted in releasing tons of fear and trauma from my mind and body. She would have me repeat things she said like "I dont have to hide the pain in my hip anymore" (I have chronic pain). Or "The doctors cant hurt me anymore.." These are vaery simple examples. But when she did this, she used muscle testing to help find the lies so she could replace then with truths. She used magnets and a chi energy machine. That changes your energy field so when you say something, your BODY belives it. I would cry solid for 2 hours. And my Depression and fear is 90 percent gone after 4 visits. It is expensive. But for me, I had no choice. I couldnt handle the physical pain with emotional pain on top. Usually the physical pain goes away. But in my case I have more to do to get rid of the physical. God has me doing these cleanses now.
Oh, the cost is on the web sight. It varies per visit and length of visit. THe first visit is $100 for 90 minutes. But more after the first visit.
Hope that helps.
Katie- Re: EFT it works Miss Scarletwhiskers
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This is a reply to # 467,665I am so happy for you that it helped. If you ever get tired of paying so much money for the emotional treatments, you could learn EFT, which you can apply yourself for free whenever you want. LOTS of people are getting better from it and psychotherapists are teaching it to thier patients all over the world from what I've read.
I'll keep you posted if I experience any miracles from it...! Any little improvement would be a miracle to me at this point.
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This is a reply to # 467,660Madie, I am not really sure when the Liver-Flush will take place...I hope to do it right after I finish up Round 2. I just am moving cross country and life is, ummm, rather chaotic at the moment and I need to make sure that I'm in OK shape to take care of everything. I'll have a more definite schedule today, so we'll see...
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This is a reply to # 467,635Just wanted to make a suggestion. I have been doing the paragone for over a year now. 2 - 3 times a year. To help with the constipation I use the Fibersmart...The parasites actaully hang on to that and you release them normally in the morning you will have a huge movement. I think this might be causing your Depression also is not having the movements that you should be with the paragone. I am no expert but I do the paragone faithfully and strictly. Try making your carbs veggies and Brown rice. Also I realize that you are doing the P&B shakes but do what you need to make these parasites leave your body, maybe split the P&B until after your cleanse and use the fibersmart. I hope this helps..Melanie
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