no stones, but sludge in gallbladder 
mtambunan
21 y
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Can anybody tell me the difference between "sludge" and "stones?"
My doctor just confirmed that there are no stones in my gallbladder nor in my bile ducts (thank God!), but my gallbladder is infected and has sludge in it. He has given me Antibiotics , but he told me that if the pain recurs, my gallbladder will have to be surgically removed. I'm still on medication, and will be for the next 7 days, but I'm afraid that when the medicine runs out the pain will recur and I will have to be operated on.
Do you think a Liver Flush would help? Are there no other alternatives available to me aside from the surgical removal of my gallbladder? The doctor told me there was none. Please can anybody help?
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- Re: no stones, but sludge in gallbla... Hermit
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This is a reply to # 441,678Find and read the posts by Grumpy's Wife. Then get yourself ready to do a liver flush.
- Re: no stones, but sludge in gallbla... Tracey
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This is a reply to # 441,678Hi there! The sludge will be SO easy to get rid of! Many people get out sludge and stones when they do a liver flush.
So...there is NO way you have to have your gallbladder surgically removed! no way. This will be easy.
Just follow the Hulda Clark recipe: //www.curezone.org/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp
Sludge, just shows that your liver/gallbladder is stagnant and not functioning at optimal health. You just need to clean it out with some flushes and probably do a Bowel Cleanse as well...this will get your whole abdomen functioning perfectly!
The liver is the 'general' of the body (Traditional Chinese Medicine)...so it has to be in tip top shape so that it can order all the other organs around. If it is in poor shape then all the others will be too. The colon and small intestine are very important to overall health too.
Read this article called, "Journey to the Center of the Colon". After reading that you'll probably want to do some Bentonite and psyllium drinks to clear out your intestines and continue with flushes every two weeks just to get everything working excellently!
Here is B&P info: //www.curezone.org/forums/m.asp?f=153&i=1061
Below is the link to the excellent article. It will dispel any mysteries about your body and you'll feel confident about what you're about to do...get yourself healthy by yourself!! (exciting)
So good luck..and we'll be here to answer any questions you might have.
Traceyhttp://www.thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.html?content=/articles/index.html
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- Re: no stones, but sludge in gallbla... Amabael
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I was also told I had sludge in my gallbladder and was told the only option was surgery, I was not even offered Antibiotics . My surgery is scheduled for tomorrow and after all my research I am definitly cancling intil I can find out more. Can these natural treatments get the sludge out of my gallbladder and lower my risk of forming stones?
-Emma
- Re: no stones, but sludge in gallbla... Amabael
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- Oh, and... Tracey
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This is a reply to # 441,678And because you're on Antibiotics ...make SURE that when you come off them you get the best probiotics and keep taking them. This will replenish your system with the good bacteria that will CONTINUE to fight the infection, if it is still there. After you read that article it will be clear that the infection wouldn't have occurred if you had a clean and balanced abdomen.
So, that is a must.
You may want to take milk thistle and dandelion to repair and rejuvenate your liver/gallbladder, too, after your finished your rounds of Antibiotics .
T
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- Re: Oh, and... mtambunan
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This is a reply to # 441,698Thanks, Tracey. I have a couple of questions. Since I am not a native English speaker, I don't understand what "probiotics" are. Tried to look it up in the dictionary but didn't find it. Could you give me samples, names, etc.? And also, what is "milk thistle?" I hope to hear from you. Thank you soooooooooooo much.
- Re: Oh, and... Tracey
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Hi there!
Probiotics are good bacteria. Acidophilus, Bifidus and more... One brand is 'primal defense', I think. Also...23rdman was telling us how to make it on the bowel forum - with cabbage (!).
Milk Thistle is a herb that is excellent for repairing and nourishing the liver. It would be available at a good health store in tincture form. Or at a vitamin store with a bunch of other stuff for your liver in capsule. (I think tincture is much better than 'dead' capsules)
Milk Thistle and Dandelion work symbiotically together...so it's best to do both. You can drink dandelion tea, while taking milk thistle tincture.
I've gotta run now! (I'm late!)
please ask more questions if you need to...
*I hope you will flush...because that is what will REALLY get the sludge out!
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- Re: Oh, and...(probiotics and milk t... #163633
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This is a reply to # 441,772Probiotics
The best probiotic I've found is Primadophilous Bifidous (PB). It contains 2 Lactobacillus strains (including acidophilus) and 2 Bifidobacterium strains. It's in the refridgerator in the nutrition section of health food stores.
I used to be married to Lactaid and Beano. I never left the house without them (keys, wallet, Lactaid, Beano). Since using PB I no long seem to need Lactaid or Beano. (I do get a little gas from certain kinds of cheeses, but not trots.)
Note: These four bacteria may be foreign to your body, even acidophilus (which is easily killed by room temperature and stomach acid). Many people who have been taking acidophilus for years actually have none in their digestive systems, especially those who have been buying non-refrigerated versions. PB is refrigerated plus it is in an enterically coated capsule (so the good bacteria survive stomach acid and make it into the small intestine).
The reason I'm telling you this is to prevent you from getting the trots at work, since your body might rebel against it since it contains "foreign" substances. What I did was to take a 16th of a capsule (it doesn't taste bad). Then I waited two days to see if I had any negative effects (I did). When I could handle it I took a little more. I gradually built up to one 3x per day. Now I just take one per day and that seems to do it.
Milk thistle
Milk thistle can be very good, but I've only found one active brand that actually does anything: Thisilyn. It really made my liver feel better. This was before I started cleansing. The first bottle of Thisilyn made a big difference. I was cautioned by a nutritionist to not take the second bottle, but I did, and it seemed like it didn't have any affect, so I stopped taking it...
hg- Re: Oh, and...(probiotics and milk t... Tracey
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This is a reply to # 441,777Thanks for the info...You mean taking a good probiotic can give you diarrea? hmmmmm....but then your system gets used to it and you're back to normal?
I have wondered what a good brand is...thanks for that.
Have you seend 23rd man's cabbage recipe for making your own bacteria?? Take a look here...what do you think?
Tracey//www.curezone.org/forums/m.asp?f=183&i=567
- Re: Oh, and...(probiotics and milk t... #163633
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Tracey wrote: "You mean taking a good probiotic can give you diarrea? hmmmmm....but then your system gets used to it and you're back to normal?"
Yup. It's kind of like when Americans visit Mexico and get Montezuma's Revenge. As you may know, it's not that uncommon for Mexicans visiting the United States to get a similar reaction when eating our lettuce, for example, until they become accustomed to our bacteria.
This diarrhea can easily be more severe than Epsom Salts (i.e., no time to make it to the loo), so it's a good idea for us to gently introduce these bugs into our digestive systems. Taking the first dose on Friday evening when we know that we'll be around the house on the weekend is not a bad way to start.
23rdman's cabbage recipe is interesting. I especially appreciate that one recipe calls for soaking the raw cabbage in bleach water. I have been trying to buy a decent, non-moldy raw cabbage in Northern California for the last 4 months to no avail.
It certainly can take three months (or in some cases even six months) to firmly establish the levels of probiotics that really work for us. However, I would be much more comfortable if there were an analysis of how much of what type of bacteria is in their concoction. Until I have something definitive, I think I'll stick with the Primadophilus Bifidous.
Also, I'm not sure how much I need another time-consuming thing right now. Now maybe if there were a Mrs. Hypoguy... ;).
hg
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- Re: Oh, and...(probiotics and milk t... #163633
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- Re: Oh, and...(probiotics and milk t... Tracey
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- Re: Oh, and... mtambunan
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- Re: no stones, but sludge in gallbla... netav
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This is a reply to # 441,678by sludge, I guess that's that scummy looking stuff that is part of the liver flush. If I was you I would do a few Liver Flushes and then go to the doctor and see what he says (don't tell him what you are doing)
It would be great if you would share the results with us. I've seen way too many people on this forum who have had their gall bladder taken out, had the same pain they did before and severly regretted listening to their doctor.
Good luck on whatever route you choose.
- Re: no stones, but sludge in gallbla... Hermit
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