Liver is blocked but am very sick, w... 
Lisa C
21 y
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Hello,
I am very sick with CFS/MCS, candida, LGS, etc. My ND has me drinking beet juice with cucumber, lemon and olive oil. When I drink it, I feel better but then start to get pains in my lower left back, by the upper left shoulder blade and I can feel my liver swell. It feels like I am building up and my body can't dump the toxins which then show up as abcesses in my mouth or rashes on my skin with fatigue where I am in bed most of the day.
I have read the archives, not sure what I can or should do first as I am so weak. I know I have severe candida/LGS and chemical sensitivities from this blocking my liver, parasites making me anemic. My bowel habits have gotten bad, constipation most of the time, this is so confusing, what can I do first?
I could not even tolerate enzymes or a probiotic, both made me sneeze and have an allergic reaction, then I tried aloe juice, that made me swell up and I looked like Martin Short in that movie when he was stung by the bee.
Can anyone tell me what would be the first thing I should do and how? I am a walking toxic container and after six years of being sick, I want to get well. Thank you for any suggestions.
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- Re: Liver is blocked but am very sic... Tracey
21 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 429,333Hi Lisa C...yes, it definitely seems like you're in need of some liver flushes. But, you're not sure if it might just wipe you out?
Please go to the Bowel Forum Active and check out the 'recommended message' from Jaybyrd. It sounds like he really got a handle on candida using bentonite, psyllium and caproil. (in Canada this is made by 'innovite') But, he did lots of other stuff too.
Do you think you might get an allergic reaction to the olive oil and grapefruit? The Liver Flush sounds intense and sometimes it is..but sometimes it isn't at all. Eventually you will have to try it...but first you'll have to figure out what your health plan should be. I wish I could be of more help.
You say that most of the time your bm's are hard. You should try to get them moving before you try the b&p and caproil. Start the day with many glasses of warm water with lemon in them. This really gets you going. I start the day with a litre of warm water drunk over 1 to 2 hours. It really works!
Also, check out the diet/health tips on the Edgar Cayce Forum.
And...here is a post by ptree on constipation: //www.curezone.org/forums/m.asp?f=5&i=1120
I hope we see you back here asking more questions! You can get better - I'm sure if you read Jaybyrd's post you'll be inspired. You've come to the right place...you're on your way to being beautifully healthy!
Let us know what's next...
Tracey
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- Re: Liver is blocked but am very sic... Lisa C
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This is a reply to # 429,342Hi Tracey,
Thank you for your kind reply. I did read the post by Jaybrd and it was a wonderful post thank you. I will try the warm water and lemon in the morning, I know the bowels have to be working before I can do anything else but that is where I am not certain what to do first after that.
I do not know what would happen with the grapefruit and olive oil, my body is so sensitive it seems to react to almost everything. I can feel things building up as I mentioned and then pain but nothing releases, I will keep reading and thank you for helping, it is wonderful to have a place where people understand and can offer hope and suggestions.- Re: Liver is blocked but am very sic... Tracey
21 y
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This is a reply to # 429,345Hi Lisa...you can do a Liver Flush even if your bowels aren't movin' right along. You can even do Hulda Clark 's Liver Flush without any Epsom Salts (I have a feeling they might not sit well with you? But I could be wrong! But maybe you should take 1 tsp in each drink of water or apple juice instead of 1 tbsp? That's what I do).
If you haven't experienced allergy symptoms from olive oil or grapefruits, then maybe you should just give the Liver Flush a shot...because it really sounds like your liver needs it. Maybe the sooner the better.
I'm doing a flush tonight. (after 2 1/2 day apple fast)
Since you are sensitive, I think that once your bowels are moving, you should try the straight and plain psyllium in water 3 to 5 times a day...then add the Bentonite and see how you feel. (the Bentonite draws out the toxins) Some people do experience constipation with the b&p shakes...but maybe if you take one glass of fresh pulpy juice with psyllium in it, per day, that will help your bm's move along. (the rest of the drinks should be with straight water, or very diluted juice if you don't like the taste - I think it tastes like absolutely nothing! just fine) Also...LOTS of water must be taken.
I would wait until you're well on your way to ridding yourself of toxins before trying a parasite cleanse.
I do hope you are able to start on something...the liver flush seems to be up there on the priority list!
Hope to hear from you again,
T- Re: Liver is blocked but am very sic... tiratu
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This is a reply to # 429,349Hi Lisa
If you can get that liver unblocked..... I think therein lies the key.
I too have multiple chemical sensitivities and am allergic/intolerant to gluten, soy, dairy, scillicillates, amines, sulphites - the list goes on and on. Also autoimmune hypothyriodism.
Basically, all I was eating was rice, the occasional carrot (one every three or four days - more would topple me), steamed fish, steamed chicken, ice berg lettuce and potatoes. That was really, really it for the last year or two. And water, I couldn't tolerate any other type of fluid. Literally the list I have written - no flavourings - no nothing.
However, I was functioning relatively normally - although catching a whiff of someone's perfume was enough to knock me for the rest of a day and having to use a public toilet - I would very nearly be physically ill with the smell - which on occasion was just air freshner - and would leave looking like I had been sick and again taking hours to recover.
I started the Master-Cleanse - which for me was a breeze in alot of ways, precisely because I didn't have food knocking me around. I didn't have to deal with the food chemicals.A huge load was lifted.Even though normally I wouldn't be able to handle lemon and cayenne pepper - I think that because my body didn't have to deal with anything else, it managed. It got better at it as time went by.
With great fear and trepidation I did a Liver Flush on day 10 of my fast. I was so afraid. So afraid of a set-back.If there was a set-back, how bad and how long to recover? I was soo scared.
Olive oil has been off the menu for years - we are talking migraine territory here on tiny amounts.And lemons had also been off the list for a while. I was hoping that with the fasting my reactions would not be so extreme, but I prepared for the worst.
My flush went really well - though you will know from reading this site that every flush is different and it could have gone differently.
I stayed on the fast because I felt so good and flushed again aroun day 27 I think. I didn't do the parasite cleanse because I tried the tincture in the first week of my fast and got a migraine from it straight away. I have been too afraid to try it again, even though many worms came out during my fast and I ordered a zapper instead, which hasn't arrived yet.
I started coming off the fast around day 29 and I was scared!! There was only one way off and that was juices and juices have always given me migraines - just a mouthful and I would feel ill.
However, with the fast and two flushes behind me I juiced and I was fine. I could eat fruit for the first time in years without mouth ulcers ,the skin peeling off my gums, headaches and diarrhea. I did a third flush last weekend and my energy levels have stepped up again.
I know that my path is not your path ( I didn't have candida etc and could to the Master-Cleanse - I do know someone who did it with candida and the die-off was really harsh and lasted 4-5 days)- your body is unique and your needs specific to you - but the key that I see in all this is the detoxing of my liver and gall bladder. That must be your goal. Get your BM's regular and go for it.
I am eating papaya, watermelon, asparagus, juicing carrots and more and I feel great and sleep like a baby. I have to spend time on the toilet, because now I do real pooh instead of a liquid dump!!I don't feel like sleeping during the day at all.
I have been tested and the tests show that all my allergies are gone. I am too scared to dive in and potentially lose all that I have gained, but I am slowly introducing foods- like the ones listed above. I am still dairy, gluten and soy free and have no great desire to reintroduce them. But it would be so wonderful if I didn't have to be afraid of them - you will know what I mean. Having to constantly quizz people about the oil used etc etc afraid of a reaction.
I went into a stinky public bathroom tonight - my friend felt sick from the smell and I was fine. You will understand what that means.That was just huge!! It is so different not having to negotiate my world around smells!!!
Speaking of smells - if you do succede in flushing your liver - there you will find the smell to end all smells - especially the first couple of times!!!
I guess I just want to encourage you - there is an answer for you in this site - if you can negotiate, find your way through it - a way that works for you. Trust yourself to find what you need and to take what you need from here.
I wish you all the best on your healing journey.
Love and Light
Donna
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- Re: Liver is blocked but am very sic... Lisa C
21 y
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This is a reply to # 429,375Hello,
Thank you, thank you for your kind, helpful and thoughtful advise. I talked to my ND, asked him about the Liver Flush and he said not yet, unless I want to "flip flop and turn colors" but...I agree and believe it is largely based on the liver and colon. My candida went crazy after 5 years of 3-4 hours a night sleep, pushing myself even when I could not function, sleeping pills, moronic doctors, stress and then a chemical exposure that my body could not handle which triggered the MCS and the worsened CFS.
I am going to continue to juice if I can, beets, olive oil, lemon and cucumber and get my bowels moving normally. My ND said he is certain my liver is toxic but is afraid I am too weak, the juicing is his way of trying to slowly detox my liver and work up to a liver cleanse. I know I have parasites as well but will work on this first, then maybe get a zapper like donna, I am not certain my body will tolerate the herbs either.
Everyone has been so much help and the compassion here is overwhelming...a wonderful feeling when I just had to leave someone's house because their friend who was sick was coming over and I was afraid I would get sick also, even a cold would be too much. I will be back on the board, hopefully helping when I can and someday able to do the same for others what has been done for me : )
Peace, love and health
Lisa - Re: Liver is blocked but am very sic... Moon
21 y
2,039
This is a reply to # 429,375I am the friend Tiratu is talking about. Just for the record - I didn't feel sick, I just didn't enjoy the smell... ;-)
On a different note - I have seen the incredible change in Tiratu. It is truly amazing - it's very hard to paint a correct picture of the before and after. She is a completely new person after having gone through the Master-Cleanse and the liver flushes.
I am nowhere near as healthy as Tiratu is right now - a whiff of wheat while clearing my fridge made me ill - even two days later I still feel the effects. I do believe, after seeing Tiratu's progress that the Master-Cleanse in conjunction with the Liver Flushes is the way to go. I do also know that as Tiratu said, every person is different and every person needs to go their own way and at their own speed, so what might be right for me might not be right for someone else.
It's difficult learning to listen to your body. It is however necessary to be able to do it to become healthy...
- Re: Liver is blocked but am very sic... tiratu
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- Re: Liver is blocked but am very sic... Tracey
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- Re: Liver is blocked but am very sic... writermom
21 y
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This is a reply to # 429,342If you are aware of toxins backing up, you might try a coffee enema. I have had very good results with this--even seem to head off a gall bladder attack (you never know how severe they might be so don't know for sure yet if this was the real element that held the last two off...)Definitely effective for pain relief and headache from toxins, etc.
Hope this helps you. You can find the how to on the cleansing home page here at curezone or in the archives, I think. Hang in there!~
- Re: Liver is blocked but am very sic... Lisa C
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- Re: Liver is blocked but am very sic... Linda
21 y
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This is a reply to # 429,333Lisa, I am also allergic to most everything. What I had to do is:
Start by taking very small amount of everything separately....1/2 - 1 teaspoon of olive oil. Wait to see if you have reaction to that, then maybe even wait until next day take 1 tsp grapefruit juice. Start the same way with Epsom Salts . If you don't have a reaction to that amount then up the dosage until you reach the correct flush dose. I started with mini flushes, 1 TBSP. olive oil with 1/2 cup grapefruit juice to see how I tolerated the oil. Go slowly and build up to the 1/2 cup oil. I learned the hard way to start small. The ES is what I have the worst allergic reaction to I actually have had seizures from it. I only can tolerate at most on a good day 1 tsp. ES. Let us know how you do.
- Re: Liver is blocked but am very sic... Tracey
21 y
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