Karlin
I am jumping in here.
Looking at the posts so far, I cannot see any questions, answered or unanswered.
I am not against anyone here, but I do have a few ideas on what helps and what hurts.
I have a good body of knowledge about the excesses and abuses of the pharma-industry.
I have 'personal injury' from pharma-dominance of medicine.
I also have seen the kind of posts that Lapis is talking about - from people who do not put forward any good ideas on how to move forwards, and only serve up ways for people to start fighting and throwing insults.
The word TROLL in this case is not offensive, or a personal attack, as such. It is descriptive and meaningfull, and that is the difference in weather or not the discussion will produce any positive results.
I have seen the tactics, and they are the same for many groups that work against humanism:
deception, conflict, the use of fear, turning people against each other, creating illness, promotion of greed and capitalism, protection of authority. They are hypocritcal and seem not to care that they are.
Greed.
Hate.
Crime.
Yikes! I am getting outta here!
Karlin.