Agreed. Thanks for posting.

Just to clarify, he was discussing the Cutler protocol, which he should have mentioned. It is safe in that the patients begins with very small amounts of oral DMSA and/or DMPS along with ALA, and takes them in a manner based on these substances half-life in the body, thereby minimizing redistribution effects.

DMPS can be extremely dangerous when taken as an injection in large amounts (see http://www.dmpsbackfire.com ). DMSA can also be dangerous when it is taken every other day in large amounts, as Huggins recommends. This will stagger redistribution effects, as the body can be overwhelmed by the amount of released mercury without time to recover.

A small percentage of people can't take any DMSA (I think TK is one of them). It can cause symptoms like severe headaches in even small amounts. But at least with the Cutler protocol, you're starting off with such small dosages (typically begin with 12.5 mg of DMSA/DMPS/ALA) that effects do not cause real damage.

Hope this additional info helps. :-)

No offense taken, but I have read the journal articles referenced in Sardi's communication, from which one of ordinary skill in the art can immediately recognize that phytic acid is far from "unproven speculation", as you seem quick to conclude.


TK--- Jmo from what I have researched, journal [articles] mean little and one needs to read full research studies on what has been done to come to what conclusions to really know if what they did makes any sense. Many times their research doesn't and their conclusions are just speculation from bad studies. The presure to publish many times over rules any quality or accuracy in the what they write.



Adverse reactions to DMPS are not being reported.


TK--- I have to disagree, there are pleanty of people reporting bad reactions from bad protocols especially IV or injected DMPS. I did not mention in my previous post when refering to chealtion I mean frequent low dose [oral] dosages and not IV, injectable or large oral doses.


This drug does not necessarily come with a patient insert, explaining possible side effects. The only one I have seen is a document released by Heyltex, one of the producers of DMPS in which it states:

"DMPS should not be used in the presence of hypersensitivity to DMPS (when are
patients ever tested or even asked????). Special care is required on injection
of DMPS-HEYL in patients with allergic asthma symptoms. Side effects:
occasionally shivering, fever or skin reaction, presumable of an allergic nature, such as itching and exanthema or rash may occur, which are generally reversible on withdrawing treatment. In some cases severe allergic skin reactions (e.g. erythema exudativa multiforme, Stevens-Johnson syndrome) have been reported. Long-term use of DMPS can influence the mineral balance, especially for elements zinc and copper. Administration of DMPS causes mobilization of mercury taken up in the body. In isolated cases therefore, clinical symptoms of mercury poisoning may be produced. (and many have fallen terribly ill because of this) In individual cases there may be raised levels of certain enzymes (transaminases). After ingestion of Dimaval (DMPS) nausea may occur. Cardiovascular reactions may occur, especially on too rapid injection of DMPS-HEYL and is apparent as a fall in blood pressure, nausea, dizziness and weakness generally a short time after the injection."


TK--- From my research, experience and that of many others DMPS is not safe when used IV or injections.



If people wish to use DMPS, that is their choice. My choice is to go with God's molecules, versus those of men.


TK--- Which is fine, it is up to everyone to make their own educated decision.


If cilantro is so dangerous, then one might wonder whether it should be banned.


TK--- You might say the same thing about many things.


However, I have not seen or heard anything bad about cilantro


TK--- There are many bad reports from people using it in any way, casually or for health purposes on the different forums. You just have to look.

, except from people who mistakenly believe it to be a chelating agent. I dismiss as chaff anything I hear from those who believe it to be a chelant.


TK--- This is just discussion but that would be very closed minded to dismiss first hand reports of it causing serious problems for some people, imo.


No offense intended.

Chris: Adverse reactions to DMPS are not being reported. Good medical information is as precious as life itself.

wintergreen: Try dmpsbackfire.com DMPS is extremely dangerous when injected in large amount.

Dear Chris

It's great when people think outside the box. Meaning; not advocating the chemicals. There is a need for information and advice for all those who cannot tolerate their devastating side-effects. It's a shame that someone, who I understand constantly pushes one certain protocol, is the reason that many looking for safer alternatives will not be able to try your theory. Fortunately, I was able to read it with curiousity and immediately spent a couple of hours reading up on ***. From what I can gather, there are natural ways of increasing ***, although I understand these foods provide less bioavailable *** than in pure form. I have already started with a food product which I found has the highest amount of natural ***.....sooooooo, one convinced.....two to go! : )

For the record; I'm also using cilantro ; )

Chris, this place is a forum to discuss treatments and health. Rokybird is an old hand at Curezone, and both knowledgeable and giving in advice. TK moderates a chelation group on Yahoo. Perhaps you should at least consider their input. TK's comments were correct regarding DMPS, and perhaps that should tell you something.

Mercury chelation is particularly problematic for two reasons. One is redistribution, which can make it dangerous; the other is the problem of the BB barrier, which can make it limited in effectiveness. To do this right requires research and caution.

Precisely Mike. Omura was a Chinese doctor monitoring peoples urine and one of the guys had eaten soup containing cillantro before the sample was taken. The doc saw the high Hg level and connected it to the cillantro, repeated the experiment and verified it as a liberator molecule. The mode of action remains unknown, but it does liberate it. Thanks for pulling that up.