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hello all,
I would appreciate your time, if anyone are able to consider this--
My mother has been having great trouble lately with her knees -- and other joints too: hardly being able to walk at times (she's a very vital (mind-wise) person of seventy-some) so that she's succumbed just recently to taking some medicines, since she was afraid she couldn't even get around, attend to her needs, much less get up from a chair. She lives by herself in Mexico ( I'm in Canada) and is in the midst of moving and trying to build a house.( her second down there)
I believe she's very acidic as she's been somewhat overweight for a few decades
(before that was about an eight-ten size) and even though she was always into organic gardening, good food and so on, she's recently (before this 'condition came on) been following the Atkin's diet... >>> :-(
(she's an O blood type and feels very insulin-resistant)
so, my question is:
does anyone know what the side-effects of these medications are?
diclofenaco prednisona
clorzoxazona -ketoprofeno
modafinilo
thee are what she has been taking.
and these are their spanish names, but perhaps they are familiar nevertheless.
I know the prednisone is bad news, and her doctor gave it to her once for ten days, touting it as a 'course' almost like an antibiotic. Mom was great for a few days!!
But when it was done, she could hardly walk again! She asked to take it once more, and he was reluctant..though he won't really tell her what the side-effects are...
If it weren't for the fact that my son and his partner are visiting her, as a kind of graduation gift to them, and a family/heart gift to herself, she wouldn't be taking these pills,(!!) but rather working toward alkalizing--which she now sees as being at the root of all this.
Be that as it may, she's weary, and not thinking straight, and I very much want to help her to get a sense of how she can take control of her health, even now, but also, not be afraid..
knowledge being liberation, to some extent.
I would therefore appreciate very much any help that anyone can offer as to knowledge of these drugs, or experience with them.
I think my mother is a little frightened, which saddens me greatly.
Thanks for any assistance you can offer.
Alison
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MoreThis is a reply to # 361,378Chiro,
I wish I could help with knowledge of the medications, as you ask, but I would very much like to encourage you as to the ease of a little alkalizing, and some help with sore knees.
As I wrote below, a little zapping, fresh pineapple with ACV, and cucumber made a big difference in only one day.
It also helped immediately with sore knees, etc.
Low seats have hurt my knees, on occasion, for a number of years. But, now I know what to do.
I raised my seating in the past few months, and was rewarded immediately with less to no knee pain.
I now watch TV in a raised office chair, and use a riser on my toilet seat when I need to. Alkalizing and zapping seem to offer more permanent help.
Good luck to you and your mom!
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This is a reply to # 361,378Hi Alison,
You are correct about the first one being a form of Prednisone which has a long list of side effects. I would suggest that you do a google search to learn more about this drug as it is very potent and a person needs to be weaned off of it very gradually. Prednisone is a steroid and prolonged use will cause the adrenal glands to atrophy resulting in extreme weakness, fatigue, etc. which is why it is critical that it not be stopped abruptly in order to give the adrenal glands a chance to start producing natural steroids again. Another problem with Prednisone is it alters the immune system and makes a person more susceptible to infection. Your mother should definitely stay away from any with an infectious disease...cold, flu, etc. Here is a link for information on Prednisone:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a601102.html
I'm not sure of what the second drug is so I can't help you there. Perhaps an anti-imflammatory?
The third one is Modafinil which is also know as Provigil. This is a 'mood-brightening and memory-improving' drug. They may have prescribed this because Depression can be a side-effect of Prednisone. Here's a link to more information about Modafinil:
http://www.modafinil.com/
Also keep in mind that when a person is taking more than one medication, the side-effects are not just cummulative for the different drugs. New pharmaceutical compounds are formed when multiple medications are taken and no one can say what the side effects could actually be.
I hope this has been helpful, and my best wishes to you and your mother.
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This is a reply to # 361,378Dear Alison,
I think your mother needs to get back to
the eating regimen she practiced several
decades ago, when she was a size 8-10.
She needs to replant her organic garden,
and consume a diet of mostly living foods.
I consider the Atkins Diet to be very dangerous. All that extra, unneeded protein
accumulates in the body, and causes all kinds
of problems, including pains in the connective
tissue. America is filled with severely obese
people who eat much too much animal protein.
Doctor Atkins may have been done in by his
own diet. He collapsed on a NYC streeet a few
years ago at age 72, and was reportedly about
75 lbs overweight.
I agree with the other two posters that your
Mom needs to get off those drugs ASAP. All
drugs treat symptoms only, and have side-
effects that are much more dangerous than
the symptoms they're temporarily masking.
I've known a lot of old people here in Florida
who took handfuls of prescription drugs, and
died soonafter. The man who lives across the
pool from me, takes 12 prescription drugs,
and is at the point of death. He refuses to
change his ways.
Could you go to Mexico for a week or two,
Alison, and help your Mom begin her Turnaround? It sounds like she might be willing to stop doing the things that are
hurting her, and begin doing the things that
will heal her. If that's true, then your
presence and encouragement might make a big
difference to your Mom. It's not easy for
most people to live alone in their 70's.
I will keep your Mom in my prayers. I hope
to read a post in the weeks and months ahead,
that she has replanted her garden, is eating
a vegetarian diet, and feels better than she
has in years.
Blessings,
Owen
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This is a reply to # 361,378I cannot add a whole lot to what the others have already told you. Please try and get your mother off the Prednisone as soon as possible, although she will need to be weaned off of it by slowly reducing the dose. Generally, steroids are started out at a very small dosage, then gradually increased until the recommended amount is reached. When (or if) a person can go off the steroid, the procedure must be reversed. There are a lot of natural anti-inflammatory herbs and supplements that will be much safer. One that is necessary is Omega 3 essential fatty acids, fish oil is often said to be the best, but a lot of people don't tolerate it well. Fresh ground flax seed is excellent. I like to mix a couple of tablespoons with some unsweetened applesauce and a dash of cinnamon for a tasty breakfast. You can also add a little sorghum or Maple syrup to satisfy a sweet tooth. English Walnuts, avocados, and raw pumpkin seeds are also good sources of Omega 3 EFAs. Herbs like turmeric, ginger and Cinnamon also have anti-inflammatory properties. Brightly colored fruits and veggies have lots of anti-oxidants that can control inflammation in the joints. A good green food powder will also provide anti-oxidants and help her with alkalizing. You might also want to try anti-inflammatory enzymes such as Bromelain, Nattokinase or Serrapeptase that reduce inflammation and improve circulation.
My Naturopath suggests a diet of 80% fruits and veggies, with a lot of them raw, 10% animal products, this includes both meat and dairy, and 10% grains and starches. A diet like this is anti-inflammatory, alkalizing, and is good for those of us who are insulin resistant. One can occasionally enjoy a treat of meat, dairy and grains and that makes it easy to stick to the healthy fruits and veggies most of the time.- Also read Owen's site hanna 18 y 1,595
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This is a reply to # 361,385I have had great success with using fish oils, Zyflamend by New Chapter (a combo of anti-inflammatory herbs), and extra B vitamins.
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This is a reply to # 361,387I'd like to thank everyone for your help! I really appreciate your taking the time...
Owen, your question about me going to mexico choked me up a little. My mother all but asked me a little while ago to come down, but it wasn't going to work, and I think what she'll probably do is come up here to Canada this summer, so that I can help her begin to reconnect with eating/living more naturally. Thanks for your warm thoughts and prayers.
Everyone, *lots* of good thoughts, and thanks too for these links.
I've been accumulating so much health and healing info. these last few years, partly wanting to share it all with family *before* any one of us gets too far into the system -- that sometimes I feel overwhelmed with it all, with prioritizing and adjusting protocols to what's most doable-- while I am aware and utterly convinced that the simpler ways to health are the best ways to go. It's so true that one drug only leads to another and another, and the worst of this is the feeling of 'helplessness' that these 'medicines' breed.
It is absurd somehow to imagine one might be able to sort out what these drugs might all be doing togther. I can see why the doctor hasn't been able to tell her about side-effects.
The prednisone scares me actually. I've watched my ex-husband go through years of using it for an unknown eye condition that almost lost him his sight. Finally, he got off it, and all other drugs that were given to manage the side-effects, and is now dealing with osteoporosis...but he's much better -- so I've watched this kind of suffering before. I had become determined to be the example that speaks louder than all my suggestions and impassioned 'help'. I guess what is most heartening to me now, is that my mother is truly asking for help, rather than just 'relief'.
Thanks again for all your good thoughts and help, and for 'listening'.
Good health to all!
I'll post back on the update...
Best,
Alison
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This is a reply to # 361,389Alison,
I'm also a Canadian, and somewhat 'senior' (only on the outside).
That gardening love your mother has could be a big help to her. The hook is, of course, the bending required.
Is there any help available to her? A couple of neighbour kids would be a great boon, and they could develop a lifetime appreciation of gardening, too. The neat part of a vegetable garden is that it rewards everyone with produce. Neighbours love that.
Isn't it a fine experience to have a family member ask for your expertise?!
Enjoy!
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This is a reply to # 361,401I used to work in a long-term care facility and it had a garden for the residents to care for, and it was the best therapy for them! The problem with bending over can be overcome, but it would take some work. Their gardens were in highly raised beds so even the wheel-chair bound residents could participate. Even if your mother is not ready for a wheel chair, she could get one of those cane-stools and sit while tending her garden, and easily move it around as she worked the beds. They grew all sorts of vegetables, herbs and flowers...and were fortunate to be able to eat the 'real' food as opposed to most nursing homes which serve horrendous slop that I wouldn't feed to a pig!Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 361,412yes, thanks for the thoughts 36.
Mom has lots of experience with raised bed gardening, so that'll come in handy now!
And it's the perfect way to make use of space and build up the soil.
I shudder to think of her in a wheelchair >>> I hear right now she has a wildly-painted cane, but I've been noticing walkers more...wondering about the best kind, etc.
Thank God the walkers you see these days are looking so much more 'normal'. Much more like pleasant tools. Remember when it seemed they were so ugly and unwieldy, and they only shouted "old"? Doesn't seem long ago.- Walkers UserX
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This is a reply to # 361,428Hi Chiron,
I believe they also make walkers with a built in seat. I think it folds down when they need to take a rest and then folds back up when they're ready to go. I wish I could advise you on manufacturers, but I never paid attention to what the different brands were.
And you are so right about them looking better than they used to! I used to get such a kick out of some of the residents who would add bicycle basket to the front of them...sometimes with streamers or bells too, and others who would attach elaborate silk flower arrangements to them or paint them bright colors. This was also very practical in a nursing home so that they could always tell which walker belonged to them! And some walkers also have wheels on them now.
Another humorous site is seeing folks CARRYING their walkers instead of using them as walkers. This often happens when they initially start using their walker and they just won't put the legs down. I suppose it's one of their final acts of defiance against not be able to function as they used to...poor things. But it is rather amuzing to see!
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This is a reply to # 361,401hello fledgling, nice to hear from you.
Perhaps the gardening thing can get going
( for its umpteenth incarnation!! :-)in the next months, when Mom manages to make the move she's almost in the process of. She wants to leave the Mayan coast (lovely to visit, hard to make a life there) and move to the west coast, where there are quite a few Canadians and more focus on natural health, yoga and that sort of thing, and where my sister now intends to spend the winter months with her young daughter. It's difficult where our mother now is in part because they speak a kind of spanish that's entirely other than what she learned previously, when she lived in the interior.
She's been through a lot in the last three years or so, including coming to Canada to care for my sister through cancer treatments and help with her young daughter. It was a lot, and I was not able to help with that, except spiritually...
I've just met a very good Tibetan doctor though, and I think Mom is interested in coming to see him. To be honest, he's the first "doctor" I've ever met I have faith in. And more than even he, I have faith in the long line he comes from. Herbs and 'healing' are his tradition, not the awful symptomatic relief that she's currently leaning on.(as are so many others, sadly.)
I think this is what will give her the chance to rebuild her life, so I'm not(now) feeling such desperation (and a sense of helplessness) when I think of her asking
me for help...
The Tibetan doctor is helping *me, greatly* right now. So I'll be the example. Crossing my fingers and praying that there's still lotd of time...
:-)
best to you.
Alison
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