mercury poisoned-just got test back!... 
sunne
19 y
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After doing a 6 hour urine test induced by vitamin c and dmps, I finally got my results from my doc.
it was elevated twice the acceptable level and the number was 8 something.
My question is this. Is that high? I have several symptoms such as brain fog, fatigue, shakiness, heart palpitations, nausea, and a host of others that all come and go.
Anyone out there know of heart disturbances from mercury? Am I alone? Is this really the cause?
Is my number high enough? Does the number matter or does each body react at diff levels?
I am at a wellness center with a doc that was a med doc for 20 some years and went searching for more answers and not just meds. He has been practicing chelation for 20 years since. I like him and basically feel safe just can't trust anyone after my four years of run around with the general medical community trying to find the root problem.
I have started a program of chelation with vit C/glutithione/Saunas and ionic foot baths. He is supporting me with vit c powder, selenium, amino acids, chlorella, barley powder and b12 as I am a ovo- vegetarian. Is this a good plan? I am also eating a healthy Diet with lots of fresh fruits and veggies-no sugar-and juicing cilantro.
Am I on a good track?
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- Re: mercury poisoned-just got test b... Owen
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This is a reply to # 354,804Dear Sunne,
Yes, you're on a very good track. How fortunate you
were to come across this doctor.
Every food, supplement, and protocol that you listed
in your chelation program, will help remove heavy metals from your body. Make sure you eat an apple every day; apple pectin has strong chelation properties. And
consider growing mung bean sprouts. They're easy to
grow, and they will remove lead from your cells.
Do you have any mercury Amalgam fillings? If so, and
if you can afford it, you should have them removed
ASAP. They might well be the source of the mercury
poisoning.
I think you're going to feel a whole lot better, Sunne,
by the end of June. Stick with living foods as much
as possible. Say goodbye to meat and most processed
foods, as well as most diary products (organic yogurt
is okay). And don't be afraid to take more vitamin
C powder each day than your good doctor has recommended. I take 14,000 mg (14 grams) of sodium
ascorbate powder every day. There is nothing better
for your immune system than vitamin C.
You're on the Healing path, Sunne. Stay on it.
Soon the brain fog and other symptoms will just be
bad memories. Savor every moment of the weeks and
months ahead.
Blessings,
Owen- Owen - re: apple pectin #69242
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This is a reply to # 354,812Owen
I have a feeling that my son has some mercury poisoning from me having had so many Amalgams when I was pregnant with him. He has some behavioural issues (like a mild ADD/Asberger). His behaviour was already like that before the MMR (I didn't know about the dangers then).
He eats around 2 apples a day and no changes. I even add a little cilantro in his food. Is there anything else that I can do that can gently remove any metals? He has no fillings.
Thanks a lot!
- Re: Owen - re: apple pectin Owen
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This is a reply to # 354,818Dear 44365,
Your son may well have some heavy metals in his
system. Most Americans do.
Here are some things that I have done over the years,
to protect myself. Don't feel overwhelmed. Make
changes as you are able to, and as your intuition
suggests to you are the right ones.
1) Drink distilled water, preferably that you distll
yourself. And drink lots of it. Pure water will flush
out toxins better than anything else. Dehydration is
a major health problem in America and the world.
2) Don't use aluminum or teflon cookware. Aluminum
leaches from the cookware, goes into the food, and then
into your body. The less cooking you do, the better
your health will be.
3) Try to eat 75 percent living foods, preferably
organic. Don't let your son drink any milk, or eat
any cheeses. They're loaded with Antibiotics and other
chemicals. Organic yogurt is the best dairy product.
4) Read the post directly below (my response to Sunne about cilantro), and make up a batch of the cilantro
pesto. It's not only delicious, it's a wonderful chelating agent. Your son will enjoy it.
5) Both of you should eat some raw garlic and raw
onions every day. There's raw garlic in the pesto.
But you can also dice up a clove, and add it to your
salad at night. Or you crunch up 8 almonds, add the
diced garlic to the almonds in your mouth, chew and
swallow. That usually eliminates the garlic-bite.
Onions also have a bite -- but NOT if you dice them
up and put the diced parts in pure water for 1 hour.
After you dry them, you'll find that most of the bite
is gone -- but the nutrients are still there. Garlic
and onions are superb foods for your entire body,
but especially if you're chelating heavy metals.
It's important to try and get organic onions and
garlic. Why? Because they grow underground, where the
pesticides collect in puddles. Foods which grow under
the ground are never washed by the rains. Such foods
are much more likely to be heavily contaminated.
6) Buy a juicer, and juice some fresh fruit or veggies
for your son, at least several times a week.
7) Continue eating at least one apple a day, every day.
I've been eating an organic apple just before bedtime
for almost 30 years. My body uses the pectin during
the 8 hours of sleep-time, to cleanse and heal my
body.
8) Go to the vitamin C forum, and do some reading.
I've been taking mega-doses of vitamin C for almost
3 decades. There is nothing better for your immune
system that largish doses of vitamin C. I take 14
grams every day, and I'm in perfect health at 64.
I could go on, but it would tun into a book. I hope
some of these suggestions resonate with you. I will
keep you and your son in my prayers.
Blessings,
Owen
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- Owen thank you to you and all for re... sunne
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This is a reply to # 354,812Owen,
Thanks for your reply. It is a great relief to know I am on a safe track. Yes, it is a blessing to have found this doc. (It was also an answered prayer that his name came to me the VERY DAY I asked for guidance.)
I do feel so much more energy the last week. I do have 7 Amalgam fillings that I plan to have removed. Haven't fully researched the cost. I know they have to go. I have felt so terrible for 4 years.
I am a vegetarian so the "no meat" suggestion is no prob. The last 5-6 years I have consumed fish heavily(3-4) times a week thinking it was the best meat choice. I have switched back and forth from the SAD to vegan-vegetarian for about 5 years. Went Vegan(65% raw) at xmas till doc suggested I add organic eggs back in to help with the mercury. I have had no processed foods since xmas and snitched a few processed sweets at a party the other night and woke at 4:00am with a few heart palpitations. I FULLY BELIEVE my body was rebelling to the chemicals/and or sugar/oils in the food. Have had very little Sugar as well. Lots of fresh produce.
Thank you for the apple suggestion. Is cilantro a good thing? I bought 8 plants to add to my juicing.- Owen, ? about dairy-yogurt and butte... sunne
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MoreThis is a reply to # 354,819
Owen,
Can you help me understand something. I see repeatedly where pure butter and yogurt seem to be accepted as ok among the truly health conscious vegetarians and even the Halleluiah Acres vegans (sparingly). I thought dairy is bad for us. You also mentioned "yogurt" being ok as have others I know it is acidopholous.
Good for flora, etc. But isn't dairy a no no?
I read the recent published book "The China STudy" which says anything with casein (dairy/beef protein) is way too dangerous and cancer and degenerative causing.
Any thoughts? Can you explain this to me? I am confused.
Thanks,
sunne
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MoreThis is a reply to # 354,826Dear Sunne,
The only dairy product I've eaten for several decades
is an organic yogurt at mid-day. I like Stonyfield
Farm's yogurts -- the non-fat variety. I've never had
a bad reaction to it.
I don't eat butter at all. I don't eat bread, so there's not much need for butter. But I'd choose an
organic butter, rather than any margarine product.
I load my yogurt up with organic seeds, nuts, and
dried fruits (on alternate days), and turn it into
a real meal; a delicious one that I look forward to
with anticipation. Basically, I eat the same foods
every day, and I never grow tired of them.
I hope that's a help to you, Sunne.
Blessings,
Owen
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19 y
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- Cilantro is very good for you.
Owen
19 y
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This is a reply to # 354,819Dear Sunne,
It was no coincidence that you found your good doctor
on the very day you prayed for guidance. The Deva of
your Soul and your Guardian Angels heard your prayer,
and decided it was time to put you on the Healing Path.
So they opened a Door for you; a door which led to
this wise naturopathic doctor, who is supervising
your Turnaround.
In the months and years ahead, Sunne, there will be
more incidents of spiritual synchronicity (AKA coincidences) in which you meet people, who open doors
for you that need to be opened. And your guides need
not be living people. I find that my deep intuition
leads me to books, which are exactly what I need to
read at that moment. CureZone can also function that
way; you read an off-beat post that somehow resonates
with you, and opens a Door.
Yes, cilantro is very good for you. It's known as
coriander in most parts of the world. The top alternative health doctors -- Jon Barron, David Williams, & Joseph Mercola -- all recommend cilantro
as a chelating agent with few rivals.
I eat a spoonful of cilantro pesto every morning.
It's easy to make and absolutely delicious. I posted
the recipe on the Amalgam Forum 11 months ago. It's
on p.48, and entilted, "Heavy Metals Begone! Eat
Cilantro Pesto." I'd post the link for you, but my
equipment isn't sophisticated enough to do that.
Try to find that old post. It's worth reading.
Blessings,
Owen
- Owen's Cilantro Link Here
Lapis
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This is a reply to # 354,828I don't know if the dog would be considered the cause of a bacteria infection. Dogs do carry various parasites though that can spread to humans and cause a variety of health issues.
The bacteria infection is probably just that - bacteria! Bacteria can be picked up anywhere such as bathrooms, food, air, etc. Usually our body does a fine job destroying the bacteria, when for some reason our body is overwhelmed with other issues or our immunity is low then we are susceptible to illness.
The white blood cells are elevated because the child's immune system is doing it's job and fighting the bacteria.
It is always normal for a 1 year old to put everything in it's mouth.
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This is a reply to # 354,845Dear Anne,
I received an email from a friend today about the
danger of cilantro to people who still have amalgam
fillings in their mouths. She asked me to post a
warning, and I will do so. Since you also feel that
cilantro is dangerous for mercury-toxic people, I'd
be grateful if you'd expand on that sentence, and
give us your reasons.
My friend said she was planning to use cliantro AFTER
her Amalgams are removed; no problem there. But
apparently it can cause difficulties for people who
still have a mouth full of mercury-amalgams.
Any advice you could give, would be appreciated.
Blessings,
Owen-
Cilantro precautions
Lapis
19 y
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This is a reply to # 354,867Here is an excerpt from a very good article/protocol on mercury/heavy metal chelation as it pertains to cilantro.
"Cilantro should be used only after a good chelation program has been under way for some time. Cilantro can enter the brain and peripheral nerves and remove mercury. But unknown to most, cilantro can also take mercury into the brain. This is why it is critically important to use cilantro only after most of the mercury has been removed from the rest of the body. Do not use cilantro until at least 60 days has elapsed on any oral chelation program.
Buy fresh organic cilantro. Wash and put approximately 1 cup in blender with small amount of water. Add 1/4 tablespoon of Sea Salt and 2 tbs of cold pressed olive oil. Blend until creamy.
Take 1 tablespoon 3 times daily with meals. May by used as a salad dressing. Use more if mercury toxicity is profound enough to cause depression, Alzheimers or brain fog."
More here.
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Owen
19 y
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This is a reply to # 354,868Thanks, Lapis. Could you also post that information
right after a new post I just put on the Amalgam
forum? And if possible, could you transfer that
new post -- Possible Precaution About Cilantro -- to
this forum, underneath my post, "Cilantro is good for
you."
I'm grateful for your expertise.
Blessings,
Owen - Re: Cilantro precautions
boronia
19 y
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This is a reply to # 354,868>Buy fresh organic cilantro. Wash and put approximately 1 cup in blender with small amount of water. Add 1/4 tablespoon of Sea Salt and 2 tbs of cold pressed olive oil. Blend until creamy.
>Take 1 tablespoon 3 times daily with meals. May by used as a salad dressing. Use more if mercury toxicity is profound enough to cause depression, Alzheimers or brain fog."
Hi Lapis,
I would have thought if someone had mercury induced problems like Depression or Alzheimers, LESS is more. I don't understand the point about rushing things when people have serious illnesses like these.....it may increase side-effects which should be minimised as much as possible in cases like this to protect peoples' safety.
Also as I've said in my post to Owen, not enough is known about how cilantro works.
Anne
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Lapis
19 y
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This is a reply to # 354,878That was only an excerpt of the full protocol which is best read in its entirity to show that it is important to use cilantro after Amalgams have been reduced. There is much more to removal of heavy metals than just cilantro (used for releasing mercury in nervous tissue).
The full link is included in the post.- Re: Cilantro precautions
boronia
19 y
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This is a reply to # 354,879Hi Lapis,
Yes I know the article discusses much more than just cilantro but the point I was making was against the premise that the more ill one is, this is a reason to take *more* of the chelator.
"Use more [cilantro] if mercury toxicity is *profound* enough to cause depression, Alzheimers....."
This doesn't make sense to me and is potentially dangerous. Rather, I would say take less and do it over a longer period of time
Anne
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boronia
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Lapis
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Owen
19 y
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This is a reply to # 354,867Hi Owen,
I'm sorry I shouldn't have posted such a short message without expanding but there's been a lot of discussion about mercury and chelation on the Candida Forum recently and I just feel I'm going over the same subject. Plus I'm certainly not any kind of expert on cilantro or mercury, but that's partly the point.
First I said cilantro might not be safe for *some* mercury toxic people, not all.
Obviously any sort of chelation programme should be done carefully and with some sort of understanding of the process as mercury isn't something to be dealt with lightly. My reasons for posting a caution about cilantro is that not much seems to be known about it's pharmacology and there are aren't any specific protocols set out which instructs people how to chelate with cilantro. There's obviously evidence that cilantro does chelate mercury but would people know exactly how it works, how much to take (1 leaf or a bunch of leaves?), when to take it, how often to take it (every day, every couple of hours)????
If thousands of people read curezone messages every day and a certain percentage read that cilantro chelates then go straight out and buy a load of it and start juicing, it's possible they may stir up too much for their body to handle leading to a possible redistribution of the mercury. The redistribution theory comes from the work of Andy Cutler, a PhD chemist who has researched the chemistry of mercury and developed one of the safer chelation programmes. He believes chelation should be done frequently (ie every 3-4 hrs, including throughout the night) using very low doses of the chelators alpha lipoic acid, with DMSA or DMPS. Much more is know about these three chelators, their chemical structure and how they behave in the human body etc. His programme seems to be one of the safest ways to chelate....perhaps not *completely* safe (can chelation ever be completely safe) but apparently one of the safest. The frequency is to keep blood levels of the chelator constant to minimise side-effects and possible redistribution.
This might not suit everone...not everyone wants to take substances like DMPS or DMSA and would rather go the natural route and stick to things like cilantro and chlorella. They may well do fine but they won't really understand the process and thus have no control over what's happening in their body.....this is particularly dangerous for people who are very sensitive and quite ill....ideally they should carry out chelation in a more controlled fashion for their own safety.
I've read testimonies of people who've used cilantro (and chlorella) and had very bad reactions, ie a worsening of their symptoms or developing new symptoms (confirming theory of redistribution when chelation is done haphazadly and without control). I personally have had bad responses to chlorella and also felt quite odd when I started eating cilantro.
Yes chelators should be used AFTER Amalgams have been removed (wait 3 months before starting ALA), but even then if the person doesn't know how much cilantro to use, how often etc they're not really in control of the process. So they are still putting themselves at risk if they use cilantro *after* Amalgam removal as they don't know if they're going to be one of those who reacts badly. Also they might not be able to afford to buy tonnes of vitamin C and other supplements which support chelation and minimise side-effects, and this again should be taken into account as to how slowly or quickly they chelate, though obviously with anyone the slower is always the safest.
It's really about protecting the most vulnerable from the potential dangers of chelation.
Anyway I've rambled on a bit, I hope that makes things a bit clearer.
Anne
some useful links....
http://www.noamalgam.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/
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- Ok, Now that we have lots of posts-
... sunne
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This is a reply to # 354,881Hi all,
I started this discussion with the initial post.
Please read it and tell me if what my wellness doc is doing is safe, please.
I have 7 Amalgams in place. He says he wants to strengthen me a bit before I have the first half removed and then detox a bit more and remove the rest and detox a little further.
thanks
Sunne- Re: Ok, Now that we have lots of pos... boronia
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This is a reply to # 354,893Hi,
I really couldn't say as I'm not experienced enough to comment and everyone is different. It does sound like a very comprehensive programme. All I know is that some people have had bad reactions to using chlorella and cilantro. Some people eg Andy Cutler think that it's *very* important to keep the blood levels of the chelators constant hence his recommendation of frequent doses. Also not to chelate until post Amalgam removal.
If your doc has been practising chelation for 20 yrs then presumably he knows what he is doing and will protect you from potential dangers. Are you going to be staying at the Wellness clinic for long? Or will he send you home with his protocol? Chelation isn't a quick process, presumably you'll be under his care for a while?
Anne- still learning sunne
19 y
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This is a reply to # 354,894thanks Anne
I will probably be working with them for awhile. This office is an hour from my home and I can only go once a week on Mondays. I am not an inpatient. The next visit is another vitC/glutithione and FIRSauna, ionic footbath. I take vit C powder, selenium, amino acids, chlorella, barley powder and magnesium at home.
I will definitely not touch the cilantro till Amalgams are out.
Thanks again
- still learning sunne
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