sorry to hear that things are so rough for you. Two things I didn't hear you say you tried though. Liver flushing. And cleansing, as in a 21 day orange fast, or a Master Cleanse. It sounds as though Liver Flushing would do wonders. You can throw all the good at a thing that it can take, but if the liver is full of stones (and this won't necessarily show on tests, nor will supplements remove the congestion)then all the good you take in just gets mixed into an additional overload for the system. I can appreciate you are exhausted, and maybe enraged, but maybe you'll find the strength to try these two things, which don't cost much at all. Maybe simple is better.


good luck

Have you tried Cesium Chloride- DMSO Protocol? Relieves pain and very effective.

http://www.cancertutor.com/


Another one is The Beck Protocol.

http://nicolaquinn.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=31

My dear Friend,

I was saddened by reading your letter, as I can understand your frustration. I am a medical missionary and I would like to share a few comments. Although I believe that most alternative medicine is beneficial (not urine or accupunture), even when we apply beneficial remedies, there still has to be a rythme and reason for what we apply and how we apply it. This knowledge can only be attained by divine revelation through God's written word and the prophetic voice. There are many many aspects to cancer and tumors I.E. How much Oxygen are you getting, how much sunlight, how balanced was your diet how is your state of Mind, this can be a big one because if your not confidant that God is with you then Negative hormones can be released through the body.

Many question why some get healed and some don't. Well the bottom line is you didn't either have the knowledge, faith or proper application of the remedies to the extent to reverse the disease threshold in the body. The human anatomy is extremely complicated and disease is also a complicated business. I'll be keeping you in prayer.

Later
Curkli

Sorry to see you go, although I would reread the previous posts (if I were you) as there is a lot of truth there for you to see.

This is important for you to know. I don't know how much you have learned or knew about the different Alternative Medicine systems before you started, but from your post it sounds like you don't know very much about the conventional method you are about to try either.

I would caution you to ask and find out from your oncologist how many patients he has already treated with Gleevec, WHO WERE DIAGNOSED WITH YOUR PARTICULAR CONDITION, and ask him if you could talk to them/some/one regarding how they felt about their therapy. How many have passed the 5 year mark after stopping therapy?

I urge you to find these things out before you go much further down this road, if you don't know, otherwise you will be in the dark as to where you will end up healthwise. Walking in the dark where the only person who knows what to expect over a certain period of time is your oncologist and not you too, is not wise at all. Blind trust between you and another stranger (oncologist) when your life will be at stake will have a poor result. (This is not a trust relationship like between a parent and his child.)

You have taken his (oncologist's) word it will work and so far have felt a reduction in pain, so he must have some evidence as to what it will do for you (otherwise he would not have recommended it). So ask him for the evidence (ask for a copy of the study he is using).

Get more information about it, you'll feel better knowing what to expect (like what side effects did his patients have--all this would be in the study as part of the information the pharmaceutical company gives oncologists. You'll be better prepared as to what accomodations/interuptions need to be made/anticipated.

If you already did some reading on the internet on Gleevec and brought up Gleevec yourself as a therapy idea, don't forget to check CureZone for a chemotherapy forum where you can post your progress (or important information from a Gleevec clinical study). It seems I saw something like it some time ago and I think that's what it was called.

(When you acquire an understanding that Gleevec will kill the cancer but will leave you vulnerable to getting cancer again when you go off it because your immune system will still be weak, I hope you consider non toxic treatments from the field of Alternative Medicine once again.) :)

This sad moment to you is not the moment to talk about politics.

I know that USA is the Pharma MECA and no one will help you to find the alternatives described below. But...

USA is the only country in the world that fight every possibility or chances to cure cancer, spreading the Devil disease to sustain their pharma based economy.

I hope you can travel to one of those countryes or have a friend outside USA to help you. Search more information on the net about the names the text mention.

Look at BIRM, an Amazon plant extract, could be a good chance and I never heard about it in this forum.

A big one Hug

Frank Gibson

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1193552



A standing ovation of some 1200 people bidding farewell to the speakers was the closing act of the first International Conference on Complementary and Alternative Treatments in Cancer. The conference was held on May 14 and 15, 2005, in the auditorium of the Madrid Palace of Congress and Exhibitions in Spain. Hundreds of doctors—including more than 100 oncologists, biologists, specialist engineers in electromedicine, representatives of numerous laboratories, alternative health care professionals, and other experts—left with the conviction that as the first of its kind in the world, this event will epitomize the before and after of cancer treatment.

The conclusion was resounding: each year the number of people who die of cancer increases and although the pharmaceutical industry periodically puts out unrepresentative information, with the media's involvement or ignorance, it is evident that orthodox cancer treatments such as chemotherapy, radiotherapy, and surgery have failed. Therefore, the time has come for a sweeping change in therapies for this illness.

The opening report of the congress demolished all opposition by showing beyond any doubt the scientific validity of all the alternative treatments presented, which are innocuous and have noticeably higher efficacy than radiotherapy and chemotherapy. This cast serious doubt on the credibility of those who try to scorn alternative treatments.

This fact was established in many presentations, using the same arguments as orthodox clinical oncology studies that adhere to a protocol. This overcame all challenges. Unlike traditional congresses, the palace's auditorium was completely filled during the 15 presentations, all of which were interrupted several times by prolonged approving applause.

Those who attended were amazed by the excellence of the presentations, their medical and scientific quality, and the human value of the lecturers. However, four of the presentations stand out for particularly poignant moments. The first moment came with the participation of Dr Salvador Capistrán, who is very well known in Mexico and who could not curb his emotion during the lecture, transmitting it to the hundreds present.

The long ovation that closed his lecture prompted a number of those attending to ask the organizers whether it could be repeated. Unfortunately, this was not possible owing to the event's very tight agenda. Dr Capistrán's large medical staff in Mexico is treating cancer with excellent results using antigen vaccines processed from the patient's urine.

The second moment occurred when, during the presentation by Dr Jaroslaw W. Nowicky, Director of the Ukrainian Anti-Cancer Institute of Vienna (Austria), the congress organizers announced his nomination by colleagues for the Nobel Prize in Chemistry. When it is injected intravenously in therapeutic doses, Ukrain destroys carcinogenic cells by stimulating their ‘suicide’ or apoptosis without affecting healthy cells. Ukrain has been the object of investigations and studies by 159 scientists from 56 universities in 26 different countries. Results have been presented in 220 international scientific congresses and symposia. Details of the properties of Ukrain have been published in 192 scientific publications. Thus, an enthusiastic response ended Dr Nowicky's presentation.

The third momentous occasion was when the council of the Discovery Salud journal, organizer and sponsor of this congress, announced that it would propose Dr Ryke Geerd Hamer for the Nobel Prize in Medicine. ‘Those legally entitled to do so will not do it,’ said José Antonio Campoy, Director of Discovery Salud.

In fact, the prize's criteria restrict the possibility of nomination and it is obvious that candidates can only be proposed by those who belong to the system. What Hammer proposes is not, in any way, in the interests of those opposed to him, who live from the business of making money out of health, and thus he will not be taken into consideration. So, although the policy does not allow it, we will try to bring about his nomination through popular request. Therefore, we will facilitate, for this reason, a place for this at our web site http://www.dsalud.com. This initiative will be communicated to him today as his birthday is tomorrow. The idea was greeted with lengthy applause.

The final choice among many outstanding moments during the congress was the closing lecture concerning Bio-Bac. In an inspired presentation, Dr Fermín Moriano recounted the ignominious treatment of this product—which started 20 years ago in 1985, and which should have sent several public servants to prison—and also enumerated the numerous preclinical and clinical studies of Bio-Bac, including those undertaken at first-line centers in Germany and Belgium (together with Phase I, II, and III trials in osteoarthritis and AIDS).

Facts emerged about the public administration's two-and-a-half-year ‘Operation Witchcraft’ against Bio-Bac; the health ministry's refusal to furnish an official answer concerning the clinical studies in its hands, as requested by the judge; and the authorities' initial claim that the studies did not exist and later allegation that they had been forged. The lecture triggered a standing ovation for the owner of the product, Rafael Chacón, when he was introduced by the moderator.

It must be added that all the health professionals present at the congress openly expressed their satisfaction with all the presentations and with developments at the event. These included the participation of Aleksandra Niedzwiecki, Doctor of Biochemistry, Executive Vice President and Investigation Director of Matias Rath Inc. (USA) and formerly Director of Cardiovascular Investigation at the Linus Pauling Science and Medicine Institute in Palo Alto, whose lecture dealt with ‘New and effective focus for cellular medicine concerning metastasis and cancer growth’. Dr Eduardo Sanz, biologist, graduate in molecular oncology, Alfred Gilman's collaborator in the construction of the proteome, and currently scientific adviser to the Catalysis Laboratory, spoke about ‘Virus factors in the development of tumors: new therapeutic alternatives’. Dr Hans Peter Weber, member of the consulting board of the International Society for the Investigation of Cellular Therapy and of the International Academy of Preventive Medicine, presented ‘Effectiveness in the treatment of tumors with electrotherapy: scientific basis and real cases’. The world-renowned Colombian Dr Jorge Carvajal, creator of Sintergetic Medicine, who has trained more than a thousand doctors from 11 different countries, spoke about ‘Bio-energetic treatment of cancer’. The Uruguayan Dr Bernardo Udaquiola, member of the National Oncology Institute of Uruguay, presented ‘Phototherapeutic and homeopathic treatment of cancer: Green Sap and Onconat’. The Ecuadorian Dr Edwin Ceballos, oncology and radiotherapy specialist, creator of the Biological Immune Response Modulator (BIRM), which has been approved by the FDA as an orphan treatment in pancreatic cancer, gave an account of ‘BIRM in AIDS and cancer’. Professor Panos T. Pappas, international expert in electromagnetism and electrodynamics and adviser to the most important journals in these areas of expertise, spoke about ‘The Pap-imi treatment in cancer’. The Director of the Spanish Center for Investigation and Diagnosis INSAODYT, Juan Prada, lectured on ‘The possibilities of the bio-hematological exam’, a method developed by his father, Dr Pascual Prada, 40 years ago, as an essential complementary diagnosis in cancer treatments.

José Olalde, jointly with Drs Meyer Magarici, José Gregorio Guiadas, Alberto Muhammad, and Antonio Salom, presented ‘The Systemic Theory of Living Systems applied to cancer and results’. José Ramón Llorente, President of the Spanish Orthomolecular Nutrition Association, talked on ‘The treatment of cancer with orthomolecular medicine’. The Italian expert Marco Pfister substituted for the speaker of honor of the congress, Dr Hammer. The Discovery Salud organization announced the following next steps: the publication of a book in September with all the information presented during the congress, as well as all other therapies published in the journal in the past 3 years, and the launch of a free health information service through the Internet with an initial projection of 1.5 million users.

Well my brother Im sad to see you give up on alts.
You did go 3 and a half years, most don't last that long,and then after they stop they usually dont last to long.
I for myself, attribute my longevity to living a non-toxic lifestyle. If it wasn't for an alternative battle plan I surely would not have made it this far.I have outlived my prognosis,(over a year now) and I feel healthier than I have ever felt.
Now the Cancer keeps popping up in different places then gets smaller and goes away than it pops up agian,Probably because I dont keep up with my cleanses as I should.
If your going to go the allopathic route,DO NOT forget what youve learned here,Do natural things to keep your Immune system at its peak.There are certian herbs that can enhance the standard treatments you choose.
Who knows the alt treatments you've been doing may be the reason you've lasted 3 years.I hope this other stuff gets you over the hump.
Don't throw all you have learned In the garbage,keep using it as you add more weapons in your battle against the beast.

God Bless and Stay Healthy,
Butch

Hi there.
I read your message. Medical Science isn't all that great either. Here is my daughters site. Maybe it will help someone else in the future.

http://www.ronnaclark.com

B

I'm also facing the same problem with you...tried everything like you do and it seems that it didn't work and my family start complaining that i've choose the wrong route..tumor keep popping and i'm really worried..(i'm having breast cancer)..But i still didn't give up... i know there's still hope..i've been reading all the post and i know..i still have the chance