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hi all..
i had my Amalgams out a year ago..went thru a horrible time with that and also got
candida. went on a strict diet for 3 months and got rid of it.
about 1 month ago, the cravings for sweets came back, plus i wanted comfort food, since i am in alot of pain from TMJ.
i am confused .... because the symtoms i had after Amalgam removal were the same as the candida symtoms:anxiety, nervousness, rashes, brain fog.
can it be that the heavy metals are coming back to haunt me...or can it be the candida creeping up again...
thanx for any reply.
janey
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with those symptoms, it could be alot of things. i don't know if anyone is qualified to say what it is over the web just by reading an email. i can't speak to the candida, but I have dealt with the metals. Regarding the metal, getting it out of your teeth is great, but getting the metal residue out of your body is another thing entirely.
what i did after getting my Amalgams removed:
- bought an infrared sauna (www.brightonsauna.com). even if you're not interested in buying one, they have some avail in some integrative care medical & other alternative offices, as well as some gyms).
- ate chlorella (supposedly crosses the blood brain barrier to take metals out of the brain)
- didn't eat cilantro but many people use cilantro drops to chelate the metals out of the body
- used magnetic clay baths (very cheap - easy) http://www.magneticclaybaths.com on this site there are before and after lab tests showing that the metals were in fact reduced by taking the baths. i took about 4 of them...
- homeopathic nosode for dental metals (i got this through my homeopath/naturopath, i don't know if they're available over the web).
the thing about metals is that they hide in the body. i did a test which showed up as being negative, no metals in my body. then after i started taking saunas the test showed up positive; because the metals were actively being released.
there are doctors that do chelation of metals with synthetic agents, personally i don't go in for that (dmsa,dmps,edts-yuck). i stick with the natural chelators that won't hurt. http://www.acam.org has a listing of alternative doctors and some naturopaths. some doctors like to do synthetic chelation and THEN they give you a test to assess metals; I don't personally go for this, as some people have reactions to the chelating agents.
The only doctors that i've ever thought anything good about was one acam doctor and one integrative care doctor. i thought some of the tests they did (urine analysis, hair analysis, stool analysis, from Great Smokies Diagnostic Labs, among other labs including metametrix) were great. From the Great Smokies page there are listing of practicioners that use their tests. I also got the bowel lyme test, which is supposedly more accurate than any western blot test for lyme. (www.bowen.org for a listing of doctors). i found the tests very informative even though i wasn't interested in prescription drugs as a treatment.
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This is a reply to # 294,621Janey
Its possible that your immune system is still battling another infection;
candida typically appears onp people on long term Antibiotics or with weak immune systems; do u have any root canals? If your immune system is constantly battling another infection, then candida can come back after your stop the diet.
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This is a reply to # 294,638no mike. only had 1 root canal and that was pulled a year & 3 months ago while
doing my Amalgam removal.
i have only detoxed by taking vitamins and doing some sweating and light excercise.
the only thing i have done alot of lately is take alot of advils because of my tmj situation, but that doesn't produce candida.
the problem is candida and heavy metal poisioning have alot of the same symtoms:
nervousness, anxiety, brain fog, muscle twiches.
i guess i will get back on the candida diet.
naturally though...aren't the heavy metals suppose to slowly detox from the body?
i can't do any harsh chelation.
thanks,
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This is a reply to # 294,646Yes, heavy metal detox is a gradual process and can take up to a couple years for the system to fully remove them;
Hopefully you had the teeth properly removed as to not develop any cavitations as these can be even more trouble than having the root canal there.
It also seems that you might be very deficient in magnesium
(tmj, muscle twiching are typically signs of this)
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This is a reply to # 294,652hiya mike,
i just don't know where the hives are coming from...
i do take 250 mag and 500 calcium everyday.
it's funny that you mentioned cavitations.
i am wondering if this tmj is a cavitation in hiding. i REALLY hope not.
i was dissapointed to see these rashes/hives return, because when i got
the metals out, they went away...and now there back.
like i said in my other post, it COULD be the candida thing coming back,i
don't know...i'll just have to start this diet again.
also if i could stop taking these advils
any other thoughts of yours would be gladly appreciated.
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Hi : )
The first item I noticed while reading your posts was the use of advil. This type of anti-inflammatory can cause serious problems for the liver in addition to digestive problems. Two bodily functions that must work efficiently in order to ward off candida, pathogens...
In a brief on-line search, I found the following. You'll notice that possible skin rashes and liver problems are mentioned in addition to others. Though many of these symptoms may be candida or heavy metal related...advil (IMO) is blocking/damaging the exits!!
Side effects
Disturbances of the gut such as nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea, indigestion or abdominal pain
Bleeding from the stomach or intestine
Perforation of the stomach or intestine
Stomach or duodenal ulcer
Allergic reactions such as skin rashes, swelling of the lips, tongue and throat (angioedema) or narrowing of the airways (bronchospasm)
Retention of water in the body tissues (fluid retention)
Headache
Dizziness
Hearing disturbances
Kidney disorders
Decreased liver function
Decreased number of platelets in the blood (thrombocytopenia)
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This is a reply to # 294,665hiya alexcena,
yes, i know this advil is definatly doing some damage here. maybe i should resort to taking muscle relaxents for the tmj pain. i know taking ANYTHING is horrible, but i'm in to much pain now.
i agree with what you said about it blocking things, i certainly feel this way.
thanks for your reply...
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This is a reply to # 294,688I can sympathise with you about those TMJ pains. I have been suffering with that for the same amount of time I've had candida ( about 12 years now ). I had a dentist make me a night guard years ago- and it does help, but not nearly enough. I am sometimes forced to take Advil which I HATE to do becuase I have leaky gut soooo bad and I know it only makes that worse. I also used to go through bottles of Advil like they were candy for endometriosis pain. I thought I would die sometimes the pain was so bad. Interestingly ( and thank GOD ), both of these health conditions have improved a lot since I've been battling my candida the last few years. These things are definately all connected.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 294,701Hi : )
I have been using a night guard for quite a few years. As you know, stress is definitely a causal factor with regard to grinding teeth. Stess makes us more susceptible to candida (immune system overload) ...that's why (IMO) it is sooooooo important to do some "mind" work and lifestyle changes! I am currently attempting to get rid of several "stressors" in my life...easier said than done! Gawd, what a vicious cycle!!
Soooooo, I am just curious when you said
"Interestingly ( and thank GOD ), both of these health conditions have improved a lot since I've been battling my candida the last few years. These things are definately all connected."
Have you reduced stress (in some way) in your life and would you attribute this reduction to reduced symptomatic TMJ and candida? For me, I have noticed a correlation between my "mind" work (I am currently working through a LOT of stuff) and meditation and the release of candida's ugly grip...!
Hmmmmmm......I think I may take a poll...
Thanks for your insight! : )
Alex
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This is a reply to # 294,720Well when I first started grinding and clenching my teeth, I WAS under tons of stress. I was only in my very early twenties and raising two small boys on my own. I gave up on the hairdressing career and was attending college full time. We were soooo poor and on welfare. Gosh- if that isn't stressful, then what is!! :-) These days life is MUCH different. I have a wonderful husband whom I have been married to for 11 years and although money is extremely tight, nothing like those days :-). I haven't been under a lot fo stress for years, but I still grind my teeth. I am noticing a lot of changes lately though. I have already gotten relief from years of back pain from dredging out lots of old toxins ( colinics were a godsend for that! ) I can't say for sure the exact connection, but maybe the candida has been attacking my weakest areas??Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 294,722Hi : )
Thank you so much for your honest/candid reply. I am soo happy that your lifestyle has improved. It's not easy (what an understatement!!) when you don't have money to pay bills. I know how that feels. Struggling to make ends meet -- with children! It has been perhaps the last 3 years that my husband and I can afford more!
You said "maybe the candida has been attacking my weakest areas??"
I agree...that makes a lot of sense. I think most dis-eases do this.
Regarding back pain: when my stress reached its' highest level, my back would often feel as if it would literally break in half. It seems like some people put a lot of stress on their bodies while others are able to get rid of it without a determental impact on their physical body (exercise, meditation??)
Alex : )
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This is a reply to # 294,688Hi : )
I was just wondering if you ever tried an herbal form of aspirin...white willow. When I twisted my ankle several months ago (the darn thing hurt like the dickens).
The only difference I found using the white willow relative to tylenol and other over-the-counter pharms: it took a little longer to act HOWEVER it provided a lot of pain relief (in other words it worked!)
This herb also has side affects due to the salicin (white willow bark's active ingredient similar to that found in aspirin) but it doesn't have the chemicals!! Sooo, ultimately it not putting more toxins into your body : )
Here's a website if you are interested:
http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshelf/substances_view/1,1525,10069,00.html
Alex : )
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This is a reply to # 294,719never heard of it. i will definatly look into it. thanx alexcena.
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This is a reply to # 294,638Mike,
When you say root canals, do you mean teeth that have HAD root canal treatment or teeth that are infected and need root canals to take out the dead roots? The way you refer to root canals leads me to wonder if you mean "infection." Also, an improperly performed root canal can lead to a subsequent infection after treatment. This happened to me about 20 years ago.
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This is a reply to # 294,673Nancy
I was being specific to teeth that have been root canaled;
The fact is that its near impossible not to have a bacterial growth (focal infection) in root canaled teeth as there are miles of small tubules in the tooth; once the root canal is performed and the top is sealed, oxygen is unavailable in the dead tooth and this causes a shift in metabolism of aerobic bacteria into anaerobic; these bacteria proliferate in those small tubules, releasing few of the most dangerous organic toxins. These chemicals easily reach the blood stream and create numerous symptoms.
It's never a good idea to have necrotic tissue "rotting" in your mouth so it would be best to remove root canals
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This is a reply to # 294,681Hi Mike,
Thanks for the explanation. How 'bout if the root is removed Before it gets infected? Is the same true for those miles of tubules? I think mine were done prior to any infection. Nancy
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