Hyperinfection Hospice 
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MoreParasiitic hyperinfection and hospice. Maybe CZ isn't the place to be posting since I want Hospice. Three years of corticosteroids with a parasitic infection has robbed me of my life. The scattered worms are a far cry from just strongyloides. They are ascaris, tapes, and likely strongyloides. I've seen that people with severe parasitic infections can get Hospice. How?
I'm not a wimp. I am bedridden ill. IV after IV after IV of steroids for weeks on end than prednisone pills on end created a monster of an infection. I'm terminal. None of my blood labs are normal nor are my EKGs. I never wanted this, it's just what happened.
I have requested Hospice from my old neighbor, a psychiatrist. Not sure that shrinks can approve Hospice. I have known him thirty years, so I felt comfortable asking him. Meanwhile, my GP and ID docs have only known me for less than a yr.
So sad this happened to not just me but my symptomatic kids.
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- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice parazapper
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This is a reply to # 2,280,442Think about it. If you have worms, taking steroids just gives you worms on steroids.
Why don't you try Clark or one of the other parasite protocols? Giving up helps no one.- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice #195831
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This is a reply to # 2,280,444Exactly the steroids and Remicade made the infection much, much, much worse. Giving up doesn't help but I know this sounds insane they are Hyperinfected everywhere from my head to my toe. I cannot even drive, I can't live independently because I am so so so sick. If I cannot function normally and my brain is forever affected, then that is my reason for wanting Hospice.
- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice #76356
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This is a reply to # 2,280,446Hospice is where pain is managed for a diagnosed life threatening disease, or at end of life, ie no active treatment, just comfort care; usually patients with cancer, aids, ALS or for respite when someone has a diagnosed life threatening illness. Not sure whether hospice would accept a case like this?
Its very difficult as our western system are not set up to treat for these types of infections as much as needed, but please don't forget every single westerner has parasites, its a question of the level of infestation and where in the body - I've come to think and there are some who believe that some parasties are actually good for us soaking up toxins etc. I've come to believe that the important thing is to live in balance with these parasites. And that is, its only when they overtake and burden your system or in the wrong places, that a problem occurs.
Myself, I'm still carrying many parasites but I zap and do regular cleanses so that they are under control. And some of them yes are long and big.... After doing colonics some years ago I saw so many eggs dumped after the colonic in the toilet - and that's when I realised being totally free of parasties might be impossible. Didn't Clark once suggest that almost everyone has a tape worm? I think she might have.
I wonder reading your posts whether you have been neglecting nutrition and caring for yourself over the last few months, worrying about your infestation....
If I could encourage you to do a clark cleanse and purchase a zapper and work on getting stronger through careful nutrition, and perhaps supplementation to strengthen your body? Good luck.
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- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice #461
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This is a reply to # 2,280,442I agree with parazapper, don't give up, but I'd go further to say don't believe modern medicinse's version of stuff, do your own research, and don't give up--Dr. Clark's protocol has worked wonders for me, but only when I used a zapper. Without that added level of help, the diabetes returned and cancer in my liver hopped on for the ride, cuz I had gone to just the herbs part of her protocol. Once I returned to zapping (the cancer took adding anti-fungal herbs and a zapper which killed fungus with it's frequency, not just at the general frequency parasite zappers use) specifically, I got rid of the cancer and the diabetes is nearly gone too, but it had a bit more involved.
- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice illys / elisah
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This is a reply to # 2,280,447Amen to the diabetes being an involved process, #461.
Have seen you mention it a few times on your posts. Would like to compare notes with you in PMs, it's that cool/ok?- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice #461
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This is a reply to # 2,280,451Sure, illys/elisah, I wouldn't mind in the least. Always happy to chat about getting better!
- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice #461
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- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice parazapper
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This is a reply to # 2,280,447Thank you for the note on zapping. It has been an incredible aid for me too.
As a note, I feel that our new ParaZapper MY-3 exceeds anything that I have seen in the zapping world and although we can not promote it for parasites or for treating or curing any disease or illness, there is tremendous potential that the medical profession should be researching.
I feel that it is a complete shame that they would go to such extremes to suppress this type of technological advance in preference for the profitability of drugs and pharmaceuticals.
- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice #461
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This is a reply to # 2,280,496If I didn't already have like 5 of them, I'd check yours out. Or like I said, had I known your zapper's potential for fungus zapping, I'd have gotten mine from you instead of from that guy in Paraguay.
And yes, it's terrible they suppress the real healing information just so they can keep raking in billions and billions of our hard earned dollars! They'd crash and burn if the truth came out--so I guess it's understandable, however horrific. Blah.
- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice #461
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- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice illys / elisah
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- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice mattk3
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This is a reply to # 2,280,442I was where you are, bed, pulse 200, lungs filling with water, organs full of worms, vision fading, connection with life fading.
I had nothing to loose.
I broke all the rules.
I started by dosing Invermectin every day, for 42 strait days, twice a day, just to get them to stop. This costs less than 24 dollars.
Stop moving, Stop making junk, Stop.
Invermectin was tested at 4 doses per day, for 256 strait doses. It is safe relief, 30 days off from your life, it saved me.
It will pull you back from the edge.
You can win this fight, if you choose to.
I may die of cancer tomorrow, but they can be stopped, killed, and you can be cured.
I have a few males left in my sinuses, my last gal is dying.
It can be done, I can tell you how. I made hundreds explode using zinc Sulfate, it can be done.
What do you have to loose?
Invermectin is to worms, just the opposite of steroids.
DEC (Dimmatrol) will keep the little juvies out of your heart, it will keep going. 400mg/Day to start. less than 20 dollars.
Ginkgo will open your capillaries and save most of your brain, kidneys, and liver.
It can be done, I did it.
Do not give up.
Magnesium Sulfate and milk thistle will keep your liver going.
Magnesium Citrate will keep your muscles going.
Potassium Citrate, KGP flush, and CQ10 will keep your kidneys working.
Spirulina Algae will keep your DNA in place.
It can be done.
Albendazole will kill them, but it takes time, a higher dose than they say, and a while.
Once we get you stable, you can pulse higher levels and protect your kidneys using CQ10 and KGP Flush. I am proof that it can be done.
I am working again damit. Dont give in, tell the doctors to jam it, and save yourself.
- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice #195831
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This is a reply to # 2,280,449Matt,
I appreciate your advice. I really, really do! I am a bit overwhelmed by how much is in your protocol. Dude, with all due respect, my skin is hanging off my bones- muscles are gone. They have nested and nested in every square inch of me, Ascaris and tapeworms. They are so large I can videotape them. I cannot stand to feel them so lively, literally feasting off me. I can't stand going outside (when I try to leave the bed briefly to sit outside) and I see baby worms outside on the pavement. It grosses me out and I have massive ones inside me. Either I gotta die (and I am NOT suicidal) or they gotta die. This isn't living.- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice mattk3
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This is a reply to # 2,280,456I understand.
I felt life was not worth living and I would never recover, I knew life was over, I was positive it was to late.
I felt every single emotion you feel now.
I had a support network that would not let me quit.
What if I was wrong?
What if I could live?
What if I could actually survive this thing?
I suspect your Tapeworms are worse than your roundworms, and I suspect your real problem is neither round worms or tape worms but flukes.
All of those problems are mute, you are so infested your immune system has collapsed, mine did.
These problems are easily fixed if you have support, minor resources, and the correct knowledge and information.
I would put you on praziquantel instantly, along with the invermectin.
I would put you on Magnolia Bark, and Magnolia Seeds, They are a miracle. I would get you Rosehip seeds, and have you take the tea.
Trust me, with a few things we can make this happen.
One trick is to use low cost vitamins, without iron, say 5 to 8 per day, taken at intervals. Saves money.
Calcium Magnesium tablets can also be purchased in bulk.
The rest can be done.
You need to start Invermectin every day, for weeks to stop the decline.
You will need to clear the GI trac, I did this taking drops of pinx every day, I vomited for 3 strait weeks, look, what I propose is not easy, it is painful, but it will work, it worked for me. I will not Sugar coat it. If you want to live, and it means vomiting every day for a month, I will tell you the way it is. But for now you need Invermectin and praziquantel for 42 strait days, with spirulina and multivitamins without iron, a little zinc sulfate, a little magnesium sulfate, and some msm baking soda water. I suggest we get you white willow bark, it is softer than asprin, and stronger. Ginkgo taken one pill 6 times a day.
Dimmitrol is cheep, but it takes a while to get it it is in Australia.
Just give me the word and I will be able to help.
What do you say?
- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice #461
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This is a reply to # 2,280,456They *are* feasting off you. Really, all that stuff he talks about I have never used. Maybe it works, but wow---what a list.
I did Dr. Clark's protocol, (three herbs, one zapper) which one dose of herbs and one session of zapping kills them all immediately. (Gotta start slow though, cuz if all those die off at once it'll overload your system and make you feel sicker for a while) But since the laid eggs keep hatching out, you have to do it for at least 2 weeks--but unless you take a whole bottle of Wormwood or something, you'll most likely have no side effects from the herbs, and the zapping is just a mild tingle if it's killing a lot of the parasites, otherwise nothing.
It really is the only safe way to kill parasites not in your digestive tract. It doesn't have to be hard at all. Dr. Clark does go into the whole dental clean up thing and cleaning up your environment thing, and avoiding toxic foods (she's got a lot of helpful info) but I've found that can wait until you have your strength back--and maybe even longer, since I confess to not doing much of anything like that and I'm back to mostly healthy with a bit more non- parasite issues to deal with.. - Re: Hyperinfection Hospice mattk3
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This is a reply to # 2,280,456Ascaris and Hyperinfections are the result of a tipping point. I searched for 8 years, until I ran out of time, Doctors never did find what my problem was, until I tested positive, by my insistance, in June. Since June I was justified to dose what every I wanted, how ever much I wanted, to kill them as fast as possible.
The first kills were from Zinc Sulfate, I made worms explode at 9.32mg/kg, it was the 4th of July, they burst until I could take the toxin levels no more, and doused them with Invermectin, MSM, and Magnesium, to make them stop.
I tried all the meds, at all the doses, nothing would touch them. I tried Clark, PARA, massive doses of the freshest herbs, none of them worked. When Worms go Wild, only Drugs will kill them, and only after you get the body under control. SULFUR< MAGNESIUM< POTASSIUM.
You have to save your organs.
You have to build for a recovery phase.
You have to stop them now, and shield your body from any death due to worm migration into sensitive organs, positions.
You need to go through waves of kills,
Then you need to fight to push them out of your body, once you know they are in safe locations, and you are strong enough to drive them out of your body.
For me, it started one year ago, with my final push just days ago. Albendazole puts them to sleep. Once you pass 10mg/kg/d, you can leave the invermectin, DEC, Piperazine citrate behind.
I took my albendazole level up to 42mg/kg, my kidneys shut down, I kept them alive with CQ10 1200mg per day, and KGP Flush, which rivals Dr Clark's formula, and I think is better, Well after 8 days I lost some hair, I lost a lot, but getting the last female out of my throat and brain took an extreme dose. She is toast. 8 days of an extreme level was enough to brake the backs of the few that were left.
Next.
- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice #461
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This is a reply to # 2,280,464Did you use a zapper?? It is absolutely critical. Which is why so many 'authority' types on here are so anti-zapper, because big pharma knows it works and they're being paid to keep you in the 'need the medical industry' box. And if you did a zapper, did you use it right? Many of the folks I encounter here say---oh I tried Clark's protocol--not mentioning they only did one week of the two week cleanse, and never did the weekly follow up dose, or maybe only one dose even, or that they never zapped, or that they may have zapped maybe a couple of times and stopped, or didn't do the 7on/20 off that she recommends because some folks have too much body resistance to do duration zapping and so on--if that's you, then, no, you never did her protocol.
I am totally with you though--if the herbs and zapping hadn't worked, I'm sure I'd have gone to any length to be rid of the little buggers! My health--while not in shut down mode yet, like it sounds like yours was, was not at all good--I was diabetic, catching every bug that came along, was in frequent pain that was getting more frequent (hiatal herinia), constant back pain (which ended up being from liver stones which she also addresses)--gosh that was nearly 20 years ago--I know there was many more little things but I can't recall, but at 35 I had no energy left to live.
I had enough bad experiences with big pharma and their pet medical industry failing on curing even some of the simplest things, usually fungus based (Which always was just a total mystery to them. *ack* Probably because it's the underlying cause of 'cancer'; which I've gotten rid of--liver tumor, in part with Dr. Clark's protocol; and they don't want doctors to recognize it).
So I didn't wait for them to help me--I started on it right away when things got so uncomfortable. And ran into Dr. Clark's protocol almost immediately. I was relieved to see so many of my problems were from parasites, but a bit appalled by all the criteria of environment clean up and such. I finally decided I'd focus on the basic stuff of clearing parasites and worry about all that other stuff when I had energy to.
I eased into it as she recommends but even before the end of the two week initial cleanse, my blood Sugar was dropping significantly, so I knew something was working. Within a month, my blood Sugar was back to normal, and I never had another blowout from that hiatal hernia again (prior I'd be getting them 2-3 times a week), thank god--talk about unrelenting being stabbed in the gut kind of pain! Like I said, I know I had other smaller issues that obviously went away because I can't even remember what they were. It worked very quickly and easily for me. I'm sure, having got to the level your problems did, some of that other stuff was really helpful, but I wasn't there yet.
And while 'drugs' might kill the parasites too, there is always some toxin in them that is for the express purpose of killing you--slowly---painfully---and needing a LOT more of their 'drugs'. Honestly, if natural medicine didn't work how did we as a species survive?? Magic, or something? 'Modern' medicine is less than 100 years old. Think about it.- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice mattk3
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This is a reply to # 2,280,554I did not do zapping. There were times and certain worms that went in places I wanted to keep they away, but had no control.
I did my protocol, I read everyone elses, tried many, did my own from what worked.
I had liver flukes, skitzos, and Ascaris (ascarid?)
I had plenty of bad experiences, from the farma, and from the worms, and from my body giving out.
The trick is to know your formula, know what each thing does, see them working together, get a plan, follow a plan, when things do not work as you expect try a variation, have a support network.
I had SIBO, SIVO, SIYO, vomited for weeks on a single dose of pinx, was so infested by the time I figured out what I had.
I took one dose of IVM and I knew what everyone had missed.
I had just enough chemistry, and knowledge of vitamins to be dangerous. When nothing worked I pulled out all the stops. Eventually I went wild, trying everything, every dose, long nights researching and taking notes. Finally I got it.
DEC, IVM, PPZ, ALB, Alinia, PZQ are all required, in the right level, right dose, right time.
Even more astounding to me was that none of the pharma worked, unless you took natural balance products, minerals, metals, amino algae, and body loop chemistry stabilizers to counteract the nitrogen issues parasites give the body.
It can be done, but it requires you really know your body, dosing, combinations, organs, signs, colors, smells, pains, etc.
The final keys were understanding the high dosing level, and the combination dosing to keep safe.
I found that like the studies say, combining praziquantel and albendazole keeps the safety of albendazole, and makes it more effective at a lower level.
I still do not know the right mix. But know where the maximum levels are.
I expect to be out of the clouds and back to 20:20 shortly. The path back is just as interesting as the path to hell. only thing is the scenery is better.
- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice #461
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This is a reply to # 2,280,587If you didn't zap, that explains it. And if you didn't do zapping you absolutely didn't do Dr. Clark's protocol. I just had that flare up of type 1 diabetes, because I STOPPED zapping for a couple years---plus cancer too, but I was still doing the herbs once a week, like she recommends.
It's an intrinsic part of her methodology--absolutely essential! I hate to say it, but you probably went thru all that for nothing. If you'd added zapping, it would have stopped it cold everywhere in your body long ahead of when you finally were able to stop it using the much less effective balancing act you ended up with. Sorry, guy!
Just out of curiosity, why in heck didn't you zap? It's harmless, unless you're a parasite, of course. Which I don't think you are because you type too well. :) Maybe you never realized big pharma's research is highly suspect, and any of the journals and printing companies are owned by big pharma's owners.
The smoother and slicker it seems, more 'professional doctor-y' sounding, the more likely it all manipulated misinformation to support big pharma's agenda of only 'drugs and doctors can help you' *cha-ching* and may very well be a pack of lies. If you fell for their anti-zapper rhetoric--well, sorry!
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- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice glaxony
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This is a reply to # 2,280,449You say, "I have a few males left in my sinuses, my last gal is dying."
How do you know if they are males or female?
Can you get DEC at the same place where you buy Ivermectin?
Do they sell it to sheep and goat farmers without a prescription?
I got dizzy and wrecked my car when I tried it.
So be careful.
- Re: Dizzy mattk3
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This is a reply to # 2,280,549The larger worm is female, Ascaris worms hang in between spaces, but one always travels to lung, birth of babies, GERD, up neck to brain to cool off. The sinus guys never go anywhere, even the lymph guys are lazy, never move.
I did not drive for over a year. I keep is way cool.
There is a large learning curve to killing these guys. Starts with Magnesium, Zinc, Potassium, Sulfur.
Have you had an ELISA test?
Do you know what you have?
Have you done any killing or dosing?
Sources are strictly protected. Not a topic for the public forum.
Knowing what you have, and having the body in balance is essential to fighting anything. Sublingual PH, and a Hair analysis are the places to start, to characterize the significance, kind, stage, all goes by minerals and metals. The test is 50 dollars, the ph strips are less than 10.
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- Re: Hyperinfection Hospice stillbattling
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This is a reply to # 2,280,442I know you want to live, but may feel death is inevitable. IT IS NOT!
Along with Sharkman, MattK3 and others, I was in very serious condition from a hyperinfection and dissemination of many kinds of worms. I have been battling them for 28 months now with all the drugs. My muscles had atrophied so much that I could get a handful of thigh flesh. I was not absorbing nutrients and what I was absorbing the worms were stealing. I was freezing with a very low body temperature and bedridden with NO energy.
You don't mention if you are still on Remicade and/or steroids. I hope you are not. My guess is you had Crohn's Disease or IBS. It sounds like the doctors were treating the symptoms, not the cause. These diseases could have been caused by parasites. And the steroids just made the problem much, much worse.
You must begin drug treatment for the worms immediately and you must have the very best nutrition. I have benefited by adopting some of Mattk3's suggestions on nutrition, such as the great need for vitamins and especially minerals. I take the Source of Life (without iron) multi-vitamin/mineral, potassium citrate, and magnesium citrate. For immediate nutrition for energy and body heat, I suggest chicken or beef meat/bone broth (seriously). It may give you the energy to get out of bed.
Which meds to start with is a harder question. You don't want to, and cannot, kill all the worms at once. This would be to hard on you and you would undoubtedly end up with intestinal blockage. For any blockage you end up with, take castor oil to clear it.
Tapeworms are the biggest, but not the most damaging. Still knowledgeable naturopaths start with killing this worm. You could start with Matt's suggestion of praziquantel and ivermectin. Or you could start with nitazoxanide (Alinia) and albendazole (Albenza). One 1500 mg dose of Alinia (three 500 mg tablets) reportedly kills tapeworms. Praziquantel has the advantage that it dissolves tapeworms. You could do one dose of Alinia (1500 mg) then switch to Praziquantel for a few days. A low dose of ivermectin (12 mg) temporarily paralyzes roundworms while you're killing the tapeworms.
I have had only one MD prescribe drugs early in my treatment. He prescribed Alinia and Albenza. At the time I didn't know what a good combination these 2 drugs were. They didn't totally cure me, but they may have saved me. Since he doesn't take insurance, I don't go to him now but instead figure out my own treatment. After 28 long months, I am now 99% cured. The final drug I am taking is nitazoxanide. I haven't taken this drug for 2 years and it is now clearing up worms and miscellaneous parasites which had become resistant (or were never sensitive) to ivermectin and albendazole.
I hope I have convinced you to strive for life and believe that death is not inevitable.
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