Is it normal? 
Reborn
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Hello Alll,
I have been parasite cleansing for 2 months now and am STILL experiencing die-off.
I am still so weak, tired, a hey, irritable and with pretty bad headaches. I am still also passing worms.
How long can this go on for?
What is the longest length of time you have heard of/experienced die-off?
I suspect that I have been infected since a child now looking back and so anticipated some discomfort, but man, I was hoping to get back to the gym and yoga by now :(- Re: Is it normal? Cimber38
10 y
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This is a reply to # 2,167,266I sympathize with you. I've been cleansing for 7 months now. The die off gets easier as time goes on unless you kill something big. I'm still passing worms. It seems like it will never end.
- Re: Is it normal? Reborn
10 y
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This is a reply to # 2,167,273Thank you for your reply.
Wow 7 months? I sympathize with you as well.
Have you been feeling ill the entire time? If not, at what point did the die - off diminish to a tolerable level?
Now knowing this can be a long fight has eased my anxiety. I began thinking it was not die off but perhaps I am now ill with something more serious. I did however notice that many have also went through this and so keep telling myself "it's just die- off".- Re: Is it normal? Soly047
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This is a reply to # 2,167,275Reborn: It could be just a die off. But I highly Q that unless you are in Africa and face a massive re-infection on daily basis. Any unnecessary inflammation will contribute to your symptoms as well. Many ppl fail to understand this. What this means? We are talking here about cellular inflammation and hormonal issues such as resistance. While parasites contribute to inflammation in the body which will kill you one day the body can also face unnecessary inflammation and struggle to cope and give out such symptoms. In order to reduce and even avoid this you must follow a regular diet, exercise, do short fasts, avoid or reduce bad habits and do everything in your power to dampen down unnecessary inflammation. It's damn hard and takes a lot discipline and understanding of complex biochemistry. But the key in any chronic infection is to control inflammation to some degree. But please do note it might take anything from weeks to months in order to feel better adaptations wise.Advertisement
Hulda Clark cleanses
Wormwood, Clove, Clarkia, Turmeric, Epsom Salt, Uva Ursi, Goldenrod
- Re: Is it normal? Reborn
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This is a reply to # 2,167,328The only thing I have not attempted is a short fast. How short do you recommend? Do I do a Water Fast or a juice fast?
Thank you so much, Soly. :)
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This is a reply to # 2,167,275Me, I have been using parastroy cleanse for 30 days, I've seen the worms in my stool and still feeling the symtoms of giardia lamblia, so do I take 30 days of break before I start again another cycle of parastroy
- Re: Is it normal? Reborn
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- Re: Is it normal? Soly047
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- Re: Is it normal? Hidden Username
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This is a reply to # 2,167,266It'll lessen the duration if you go vegan, because meat is dead animals n it rots in the body, definitely accumulates worms.
- Re: Is it normal? fullset
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This is a reply to # 2,167,299Even if meat was rotting in the body it has nothing to do with worms. Helminths almost exclusively live on glucose, which is readily produced by the body from any vegan meal.
- Re: Is it normal? Soly047
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This is a reply to # 2,167,323Yes helminths use glucose for energy. But even in a fasted state they can get it from the host via protein breakdown which gets turned into glucose for the brain and red blood cells. So you can never beat them diet wise. They also use protein and fat for structure of their eggs and body repair/protection.
- Re: Is it normal? Reborn
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This is a reply to # 2,167,326Thank you everyone for your input. I do live a healthy lifestyle and follow all of your advice on here in regards to reducing inflammation. I even follow ICU's supplement protocol. The only advice I have not followed is the fasting..... I have read of so many not finding fasting/diet changes making a significant enough difference in their parasite fight.
I'd love to hear that fasting was the key step in gaining a foot hold in all of this, but alas, it keeps appearing that Albendazole seems to be the piece of the puzzle most need.
These are just my observations on here and of course I could be wrong. I still pledge ignorance to so much of this.
- Re: Is it normal? Soly047
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This is a reply to # 2,167,330Advertisement
Hulda Clark cleanses
Wormwood, Clove, Clarkia, Turmeric, Epsom Salt, Uva Ursi, Goldenrod
You are welcome. Fasting is a miracle what it can do biochemistry wise. It can reduce/improve interleukin-6, C-reactive protein, ESR, etc. But I advocate only short fasting max 48 hours (better from 10 to 24). After that a drop in circulating leptin levels among others things can compromise your immune response. But during short fasts immune system actually gets somewhat boosted, all hormones undergo sensitivity check if you like, autophagy kicks in to clean your cells from junk and do a quality check. And in general AMPK activation does magic to anything from DNA to mitochondria repair and improvement wise.
- Re: Is it normal? Reborn
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This is a reply to # 2,167,332Sounds good to me and I'm willing to give it a go. Am I Water Fasting or juice fasting?
- Re: Is it normal? Soly047
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This is a reply to # 2,167,335Water fasting. And I suggest to start anywhere from 10-12 hours and increase slow from that. But you can also consume plain tea or just plain black coffee. Juice fasting is not technically 'fasting' since it will provoke an insulin response via glucose intake. We want to keep insulin very low here and have glucagon active (opposite action to insulin). Please note that you might not feel optimal for a week or more on a fast since the body needs some time to adapt. Warning: This should be done by otherwise 'healthy individuals' with no recognized illnesses.
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This is a reply to # 2,167,348Sorry, but one last question....
Am I continuing to take supplements while fasting?
- Re: Is it normal? Soly047
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- Re: Is it normal? Reborn
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This is a reply to # 2,167,370Ready? It's a long list haha
-magnesium
-milk thistle
-vitamin C
-zinc
-mms
-probiotic
-co enzyme q10
-vitamin d
-digestive enzymes
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This is a reply to # 2,167,384Just my advice, but some of these you may not wanna take. Spirulina is good, but unless the supplement is all natural, you shouldn't take it.Vitamins made in a lab, many agree it's best to get them from food. Digestive enzymes n probiotics, I wouldn't try taking more strange organisms. Some probiotics are made from spoiled milk bacteria. Definitely not something to take ever, especially while detoxing. Zinc n magnesium are metals. If you take a supplement make sure it doesn't have any of the metals. 18mg of iron in a typical vitamin is well over the level of an overdose. Vitamins are known to cause heavy metals poisoning. The daily value for iron is 18mg, but the wikipedia for iron poisoning says toxic effects start at 10mg. Not sure about the ones you mentioned, but its probably.bad as well. Plus this is everyday, taking large amts of metals. That can easily accumulate n cause metal poisoning. Like i said, just my advice. I have tried many things also n still have to find the right combination LikeAdvertisement
Hulda Clark cleanses
Wormwood, Clove, Clarkia, Turmeric, Epsom Salt, Uva Ursi, Goldenrod
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This is a reply to # 2,167,299Yes, but meat does not digest properly n rots in the colon. You can find this info anywhere. It stays in the body much longer than other food, n rots, accumulating more worms n bacteria. Plus its meat, it already had worms n bacteria with it. Most meateaters do not have normal bowel movements.
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