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I would like to know of everyone's experiences with the Thundervolt Zapper.
I can't seem to find one person on the forums who has used it, although maybe I missed them. All I know is the owner of the thing comments a lot, and that's all I see in search results, and people in the testimonials on the site vouch for it.
If you are the owner, feel free to comment. I've got some questions for you, too.
1. How does the zapper find the frequencies of pathogens with its changing frequency?
2. Variable frequency aside, what's the difference between using your product and using three zappers with different frequencies at the same time?
3. Why don't you make a model that has the wall plugin and the battery or solar panel option, instead of one or the other? You'd only need one model, then, perhaps.
4. Since this zapper is rather unique from other zappers, as far as I know, are there any unique side-effects?Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 2,103,194While I am a competitor, I can add some possible insight.
>- people in the testimonials on the site vouch for it.
That is true for every zapper. I have seen great testimonials for the $10 zapper from zapperplans ( which is the weakest zapper that I have seen ). On the other hand, I have never seen anyone post testimonials that said that a product did not work. There are always some cases where a zapper will not work.
>- 1. How does the zapper find the frequencies of pathogens with its changing frequency?
The best way is to output a pulse with a very sharp rise time and then compare that to the signal as it appears across the body. The difference is used to determine the absorbed frequencies.
>- 2. Variable frequency aside, what's the difference between using your product and using three zappers with different frequencies at the same time?
>- 3. Why don't you make a model that has the wall plugin and the battery or solar panel option, instead of one or the other? You'd only need one model, then, perhaps.
The requirements for plugging to the wall are very stringent and not completely safe. While it may be a 1 in 10 million chance, how would you like to be the 10 millionth?
>- 4. Since this zapper is rather unique from other zappers, as far as I know, are there any unique side-effects?
This one, I can not answer, but is it this good? http://zapperdave.blogspot.com/2013/07/this-is-what-use-of-zapper-does-to.html
I don't think so.
As for their claims of neutralizing chemicals, From my years as a professional chemist, I do not buy it. However, I would love to review any proof or evidence that they may offer.
I would also be concerned with the limited parts and labor warranty of only 1 year.
They also state: Remember to never short the handholds or footpads together when the LED's are lit. This will destroy the electronics and render the unit defective
ParaZapper comes with 5 years parts and labor warranty and included free limited repairs to broken wires in the rare case that this should happen. And you can short the electrodes together with ParaZapper.
>- If the Coffman Company finds that the unit stopped working due to negligence, willful destruction, or improper operation by the customer, the unit will not be replaced until the customer has sent $249.95 to the Coffman Company for a new unit.
ParaZapper has never charged more that $85 for a complete repair and only a few times above $35.00 99 percent of repairs have been free except for possibly shipping cost in some cases.
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This is a reply to # 2,103,380Thanks for the insights. They are helpful.
However, I wasn't meaning to tout the testimonials as evidence that the zapper works well and as stated. I usually don't put much stock in testimonials for zappers or really any other product. However, the Thundervolt zapper's testimonials do have some unique qualities that don't normally come with fabricated ones:
1. There aren't very many of them.
2. They don't cover all the highlights of the zapper.
In other words, they don't really advertise it that much. They seem fairly straightforward how real testimonials would be. However, that could be faked, but I doubt they would have done that. Possible, but why? Why not make it look better and like they're not struggling to get a following? I don't know that most people analyze testimonials like that. I think at least one of the testimonials comes from a real person, from the searching I did to try to figure it out.
That's cool to know the idea of an algorithm to detect frequencies within the body.
Here's my idea of how it could be done. First, though, this relies on the principle (which I don't know whether it's true or false) that the 9v battery runs out of power faster when there are more pathogens in you to zap. (Someone said that once somewhere.) Anyway, all you'd have to do is have a frequency that counts down, and gauges which ones take more power to zap. Of course, I don't know if what that person said is true. It makes sense that it could be, but I don't really know if it's possible to draw more or less power from the device just based on what it's zapping. Do you know? However, it's possible that it only takes more power on big things like large parasites, and that it wouldn't stop a whit on bacteria. Could be wrong.
> The requirements for plugging to the wall are very stringent and not completely safe. While it may be a 1 in 10 million chance, how would you like to be the 10 millionth?
The Thundervolt zapper does have two models already: one with a wall plugin, and another for a 12v battery and/or solar panel (not included). Hence, I asked, why not just make one with both options? If people don't want to risk it, they don't have to plug it in. They describe how their wall plugin (not all zappers with wall plugins) is supposed to be safe. Apparently, they do some special stuff that isn't always done. I don't know enough about electronics to verify the safety, but, yeah, they have a claim that should probably be addressed by other people who know. The claim sounds good, though.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 2,103,453>- However, that could be faked, but I doubt they would have done that
I doubt that they are faked. As I said, even the cheapest, weakest zapper has plenty of testimonials.
>- why not just make one with both options?
Yes, well, it would just plain cost more because it needs 2 different power input circuits. However, It would work and some customers would pay the additional cost.
There is a limitation and that is one of board space inside of the unit. If the board space is fully utilized with 1 input circuit, then it would require a larger box and a complete redesign which can be very expensive.
As an example, the design project for our ParaZapper MY, http://petzapper.com/my.htm
, took over 3 years to complete.
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This is a reply to # 2,103,380To Whom It May Concern;
Some people searching for good advice
about zappers are desperate. They may
have been rejected by orthodox medicine.
They may be at their wit's end for help.
The inventor of the Thundervolt Zapper
does not wish to dishearten anyone with
negative information. We will not badmouth
another man's zapper, but we will point
out differences to ours.
1. The Thundervolt zapper "senses" parasites
by detecting conditions inside the user. We
call this "Body Activation." When it finds
a pathogen, it locks on to the parasites
resonant frequency with an exact match of its
own. We call this "frequency freeze."
2. Thundervolt zappers have dual waveforms, not
just one. Two waveforms sandwich parasites between
opposing energies. Additionally, our instructions
encourage users to switch output terminals after
each zap session. This promotes a criss-cross of
opposing energies throughout the body. This could
not be done with single units, or if the devices
were hard-wired.
3. We now have three units:
A Thundervolt zapper, AC powered;
A Thundervolt zapper, 12 volt powered;
A Body Tester for testing body vitality.
Three units offers a solid difference between
AC and DC devices. We want to prove to our
DC-loving customers that there is no AC in
our DC boxes. This could not be accomplished
if we had an AC-DC combination.
Our customer's safety with the AC unit rests
upon three things:
The transformers we use are isolation-type and
UL rated, the strictest standards on the planet.
Utility powered AC cannot reach the Thundervolt.
All Thundervolts are fused to protect the user
from any over-voltage spikes or increases.
The circuitry cannot stand an over-voltage
and will destroy itself long before any harmful
potential can ever reach the outputs.
4. We base the theory of Thundervolts upon the
following professionals: Nikola Tesla, Albert Szent-
Gyorgyi, MD, Ph.D., and Nobel Prize winner, Frederick
R. Klenner, MD, Robert F. Cathcart, MD, Royal Raymond
Rife, Hulda Clark , Ph.D., and Neuro-oncologist Herb
Engelhard, MD, Ph.D. Our global list of customers
records no one with any complaints of negative
side effects.
We are the only zapper manufacturer who has customers
thrilled about strong rises in vitality after zapping.
We have customers who claim to have conquered Lyme Disease,
and these claims are backed by their own MD sponsored tests.
We now have a Thundervolt body tester; the first of its kind.
We offer three ways our Thundervolt specifically helps women.
We absolutely warn our customers not to short the leads together when in operation. This is easily avoided. The precise and unique characteristics of the Thundervolt are obtained as a result of this compromise. Our customers have even achieved relief over candida with our device, which Clark admitted was a very difficult disease to overcome. A Thundervolt is a scientific instrument, not a toy. Simple precaution and a wise
attitude of common sense and care will ensure long and happy use. Our Body Tester is a low-cost ($50) great addition to our
product line and a valuable asset to good health. No one else in the industry does what we do.
Sincerely yours,
Steve Coffman, owner
The Coffman Company
antioxc@gmail.com
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This is a reply to # 2,106,621>- The transformers we use are isolation-type and
UL rated, the strictest standards on the planet.
Utility powered AC cannot reach the Thundervolt.
The strictest standards require a designation of IEC60601 on the transformer. Does your bear that designation? I do not see it specified.
>- Thundervolt zappers have dual waveforms, not
just one. Two waveforms sandwich parasites between
opposing energies.
So, this is about half as good as the quad harmonic, which uses more frequencies?
>- Additionally, our instructions
encourage users to switch output terminals after
each zap session.
Wow, we started this back in 2002! Glad that you found it out.
>- We are the only zapper manufacturer who has customers
thrilled about strong rises in vitality after zapping.
We have customers who claim to have conquered Lyme Disease,
and these claims are backed by their own MD sponsored tests.
Not correct. Other zappers have had such results but are not legally allowed to print or post such results. As a point to that effect, the FDA designated that ParaZapper was considered to be a Class 3 device rather than class 2. We were warned until we registered and authorized our product with the FDA, we must stop posting testimonials and making claims for our product.
You apparently, have not had the fun of being visited by over 20 FDA agents and had your equipment carted off for several months.
>- All Thundervolts are fused to protect the user
from any over-voltage spikes or increases.
At what amperage, anything over 20 ma can possibly be lethal.
>- Our customers have even achieved relief over candida with our device +++ customers who claim to have conquered Lyme Disease,
Yours is not the only one and this is nothing new.
I am glad to see you selling zappers, but people need to know what is hype and what is not. Your zapper may work better than many, I would not argue about that, but it can not match what can be accomplished with 29 frequencies or even 80 frequencies. We learned years ago that 2 frequencies are better than one, but 4 or 8 frequencies is even better.
If you want to impress everyone, including me, show us the studies.
Do a skin bio-diversity study showing before and after zapping.
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This is a reply to # 2,106,778I've got some questions.
> … but it can not match what can be accomplished with 29 frequencies or even 80 frequencies. We learned years ago that 2 frequencies are better than one, but 4 or 8 frequencies is even better.
Who learned that years ago, how did they learn it, and what can you tell me about this, and the results of the studies or experiments?
Anyway, I'm very interested in this topic, partly because I've noticed that I have some negative side effects with the 15hz frequency (such as I haven't heard in a herxheimer reaction, or anywhere). I'm not so much convinced that using more frequencies is better so much as the right frequencies on the right person. I have two reasons.
1. Let's just say that it worsens some conditions that my other frequency (I think 30khz) actually improves. Strangely, I can feel the frequency of the 15hz one for some time after I'm done zapping, too (yes, I can feel that zapper in my brain if I use it very long). It's a strange phenomenon. I don't know where it's coming from, then, unless some parasite made worse by it is mimicking it, or my mind is just doing it (very possible, though this in no wise diminishes how real it feels: it's not just something I think might be there; it's something that I do perceive as if it is real). The 15hz one restores (and/or worsens) anxiety and such in me that the other one removes. In this case, I'm convinced that my one frequency would be better than the two, if 15hz was one of the two. Hopefully no one else in the world is dealing with whatever I am, though. It's rather unique.
It's strange because I could also feel that frequency (or one very close to it) as a result of one of the conditions that it makes worse, which I didn't even realize was a frequency until I started using zappers (like this pulsating power sound, pulsating at about 15hz). Maybe it's a pathogen that needs a negative offset to improve instead of a positive one. I don't know. Maybe I should try a 15hz zapper with a negative offset and see what happens to that condition (although I'd fear what would come of other conditions as a result of that, but it might be worth it, if it helped).
It's possible that the 15hz zapper would eventually remove this condition after making it worse, but it's really the kind of thing you don't want to get worse, unless you're comatose without dreams the whole time.
Anyway, suffice it to say, I use the 15hz zapper sparingly, for very short periods and for experiments. I try not to use it, however.
I'm convinced that faster frequencies are better for me, whether they're 30khz or whatever.
2. I hypothesize that it's possible that some frequencies interfere with each other's effects, such that they may do something completely different than anticipated (whether good or bad). With my experience using two frequencies, that idea kept coming to my mind. Using only one frequency seemed better, rather than some of one and later some of another. However, this wasn't me using both at the same time, but both in the same day. Also, this could have something to do with 15hz just not being a frequency I should be using.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 2,107,950The pulsating power sound is like what I've heard while experiencing sleep paralysis, or something very much like it, and things similar to it (though not entirely unpleasant, although still bad) while not paralyzed.
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This is a reply to # 2,107,950>- Who learned that years ago, how did they learn it, and what can you tell me about this, and the results of the studies or experiments?
From 2002 to 2006, Para Systems and Devices, LLC, the predecessor to our current company, collected data from a few hundred customers in the form of a questionnaire. We compiled this data to show the relationship between several aspects of zapper usage and the relative effectiveness reported for various conditions. I have published some of that information on this forum in the past.
>- Let's just say that it worsens some conditions that my other frequency (I think 30khz) actually improves.
First, I have rarely heard of anyone's condition actually worsening.
Second, are you sure that it is 30 kHz? Many cheap zappers can be off frequency by as much as 10 percent to 20 percent. Are you sure that the 15 Hz is actually 15 Hz? Same reason.
>- I can feel the frequency of the 15hz one for some
This is normal for some. First, the human body is far more sensitive to frequencies below 300 Hz because of the recovery time of nerves.
A signal might not be felt at all at 30 kHz while a frequency at 60 Hz can be quite noticeable even if it is exactly the same voltage and current.
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Thanks for the information. That's helpful.
I don't know that my zapper is 30khz. Someone said so once, but that person probably didn't have inside knowledge. The maker of the zapper seemed unconcerned about what the frequency was. So, it's potentially a completely different frequency. I know it's a lot more than 15hz, though. Whatever frequency it is, though, I like it. It's awesome. It almost completely gets rid of most of my issues (except maybe parasites and fungus, which is probably what a lot of people get these zappers for). Is there some way to find out what it is? Like a frequency tester?
I'm pretty sure the 15hz one is 15hz (or close enough). I could be wrong.
I'm guessing the 15hz one is actually doing what it's supposed to do, but in my case I don't want it to be doing that.
I think I've heard that people use 15hz to help promote out-of-body experiences, aura-related stuff, weird mental stuff and such (lots of new age stuff). My mind has some atypical stuff going on in it naturally. So, yeah, I can understand that 15hz might amplify or bring out some of it.
I would recommend extreme caution with 15hz for people with the following conditions: mania, hypomania, tics, intrusive thoughts, panic attacks (especially if they're related to intrusive thoughts), delusions, sleep paralysis, pre-existing personality changes, hallucinations, magical thinking, depersonalization disorder and temporal lobe epilepsy.
They might be fine with it, but it could just make their delusions, intrusive thoughts and such seem more real, or more pronounced. Maybe they don't mind, but for some people, that is very undesirable, even if it feels desirable and the experience is pleasant. Of course, I don't know what happens if use of 15hz is continued, but for the short-term, it seemed like it could just keep amplifying things.
Anyway, these are just some thoughts. I don't know anyone with any of those conditions who has used a 15hz zapper, but I would be very interested in knowing if anyone else ever does.
Actually 16hz is supposed to be good for Tourette's syndrome, which is very interesting, since 15hz (with square waves) worsened at least one of my tics. I don't have Tourette's syndrome to my knowledge, but I did once have the ability to create my own tics, which would then continue of their own accord, and others would pop up that I didn't create (which weren't always so desirable). I was under some delusions while I was creating tics. So, that's why I was doing it. Plus, it was pleasant. I also could create new personalities within my head—whatever I chose. This was fun at the time … but, if you can do it, DON'T do it. Ever. Yeah. It's not healthy.
So, maybe 15hz would help a lot of people, even those I said to be cautious. But, I'd still recommend caution. Maybe it gets worse before it gets better. I don't know. If so, that's something people would need to consider. I do not, however, know that it gets better after getting worse.
Certainly, my incident with this zapper is no reason to consider outlawing zappers or anything like that. Sure, it may warrant caution on that frequency for some rare people, but my overall experience with zappers has more than made up for this. Odds are, though, that most people wouldn't start with 15hz, anyway.- Re: ThunderVolt Zapper questions parazapper
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This is a reply to # 2,108,909>- Is there some way to find out what it is? Like a frequency tester?
You need a frequency meter that actually counts the number of pulses to do that correctly. Most TV repair shops have one and if they are decent and generous, might check it for free or a low fee.
>- I'm pretty sure the 15hz one is 15hz (or close enough). I could be wrong.
It could be anywhere between 14 Hz and 17 Hz from what I have seen. However, this may not actually be critical. Most of ours have a specification of 15.2 Hz +/- 0.2 Hz.
You present some good thoughts on mental conditions. There have been a lot of people who claim that they have successfully used zappers for conditions such as schizophrenia.
I would say that epileptics should use caution in regards to zapping. This is because the zapper signal is repetitive pulses. Epileptics may be sensitive to repetitive pulses.
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This is a reply to # 2,108,988Thanks for your help and your replies. You have some very good insights yourself.
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From the Thundervolt Zapper files;
We believe we know why zappers may be effective against schizophrenia. An MD's clinical opinion is the source of our information.
Our files contain a case of female post-change Depression where a woman cleansed her thoughts with a Thundervolt zapper. Her mental state was relieved with four 1/2 hour to 45 minute zaps, with a half-hour rest period in between. Below 1/2 hour zaps were not effective. But 45 minute zaps erased the Depression completely. The level of mental state determined the length of zap time.
Another Thundervolt account tells about migraines. A woman randomly and consistently suffered severe migraines. When she zaps for 15 minutes, the migraine disappears.
Many people use our Thundervolt Zapper simply because they get strong inrushes of stamina afterward. Sometimes this blast of vitality (we call it the "bounce") lasts all day.
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This is a reply to # 2,113,481One of our first customers when we started back in 2001 had that same issue. Said the zapper brought his life back into control.
It is a little discussed topic, but I think that many people with this and other similar illnesses probably have toxoplasma infections.
Regardless, it is good that they can find real help rather than damping their lives with drugs. And all this from our cheap $52 zapper, amazing.
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This is a reply to # 2,113,523I didn't know you had a $52 zapper. Can you give me a link and tell me about the specifications?
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This is a reply to # 2,103,194To Whom It May Concern;
1. The Thundervolt uses proprietary circuitry and the body conditions of the user to set the initial frequency of its fourth frequency generator. This fourth emission is not a sweep frequency, nor is it pre-programmed. It will vary widely between individuals, and will be different for each.
2. Trying to use three zappers at one time would result in the waveforms shorting out against each other instead of going through the body. The result would be useless. Three sets of handholds and footpads would make a terrific wiring mess. Besides, Thundervolts use dual waveforms, not just one lone frequency. Dual waveforms create an excellent criss-cross of energies across the body; just what is desired for stubborn conditions like candida.
3. To manufacture one device containing a wall plug-in AND a battery connection would only reinforce the objection against wall transformers. Our 12 volt model has no provision for AC utility power, thus eliminating the 110 VAC contest.
4. In the total history of Thundervolts (hundreds of customers) there has NEVER been a single objection or reply on any side-effects. On the contrary, we have many customers (some international) who claim that without our Thundervolt, they would likely be dead.
Sincerely yours,
Steve Coffman, owner and inventor,
The Thundervolt Zapper
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This is a reply to # 2,103,194I am the owner and inventor of the Thundervolt zapper. To explain the electronic process by which my device finds parasites and locks onto their frequency is confidential and proprietary information. However, I do affirm that my device does exactly what it says. The fourth frequency in my zapper is neither a fixed sweep output nor is it a programmed frequency. It is one of 2 distinct and individual waveform outputs generated by my device. Unlike other products, my Thundervolt has dual waveforms, and four frequencies. Three of the four frequencies are multiplexed together, and the fourth is a stand-alone energy whose frequency is determined by the body conditions of the user. This fourth energy is not stationary, fixed or sweep programmed. Also, the dual waveforms are series opposing. Every half cycle, any pathogen is crushed between 2 opposite polarities of opposing energies.
We now sell a Body Tester that tests the vitality of a human being. If this inexpensive unit is used before and after a zapping session, it will numerically show the upward change in body strength. If this testing is repeated over a series of zaps, it will provide an excellent track record of the effectiveness of zapping. Our zapper can also track the results of other alternative treatments, including supplements, herbs or other oral remedies like probiotics.
I chose to sell one device that is wall-transformer powered, and a second device that is powered by the user's 12 volt supply. Any customer who objects to wall transformer operated zappers may purchase my 12 volt device in perfect confidence because there is no wall transformer supplied with the unit.
Hulda Clark , Ph.D., zapped thousands of people for about 15 years. In her classic book, she stated she never witnessed any detrimental or other side effects with zapping. Touching a 12 volt car battery when the engine is not running will not electrically damage or hurt a human being. Because the outputs of a Thundervolt zapper is 2 volts less than a car battery, I do not believe this zapper has any detrimental side effects. Visit our webpage (thundervoltzap)
Seven lines down from the top is the word "video" in yellow text. Click on this link and watch our instruction video on how to use the Thundervolt zapper, or email me from the email address at the top of the home page.
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This is a reply to # 2,103,194The Thundervolt zapper has a one-of-the-kind sensor circuit that is a "hunter-killer" function. When it finds a parasite, its fourth oscillator locks onto that frequency and remains there until the pathogen is destroyed. I call this "frequency-freeze." When the parasite is obliterated, the circuit returns to "Body Activation" Mode.
My dual waveforms are polarity opposing. Other makers do not have this capability; therefore they cannot duplicate my 20-way criss-cross method of body saturation. Also;
before and after my customers zap, they use my Body Tester. This proves the effectiveness of my Thundervolt pre and post zap. No other mfgr has a Body Tester for retail sale.
If I were to offer a dual-function power zapper, the result would be a higher price and a tangle of wires.
Within my 165 customers, I have not had any complaints of non-effectiveness if they verified the results with my Body Tester.
For detailed or technical information, check out my new website on the Thundervolt page.
My best wishes for you,
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Lie #1:
“A Thundervolt zapper is a low-voltage electronic device used to destroy human pathogens [parasites, fungi, molds, viruses, bacteria, toxins, and worms].”
www.dragonfly75.com/eng/thiel.html
Thunderbolt is another variation of the Clark Zapper and Dr Thiel did a study of Clark Zappers on patients with infections and parasites and concluded that it definitely did not kill pathogens.
Lie #2:
“Our zapper kills free radicals. Thundervolt Zappers use a special “hunter-killer circuit” to find and kill free radicals.
This is where chemtrails end up when they fall out of the sky-in your lungs! Thundervolt’s can remove the resultant free radicals.
A free radical is an atom or group of atoms that is missing one or more electrons.”
Science says the body already has a nice system to take care of free radicals and that is the use of antioxidants (mostly vitamins C, E, beta-carotene) which donate free electrons to free radicals to neutralize them.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3249911/
“An antioxidant is a molecule stable enough to donate an electron to a rampaging free radical and neutralize it, thus reducing its capacity to damage.”
http://www.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/antiox.html
“To prevent free radical damage the body has a defense system of antioxidants. Although there are several enzyme systems within the body that scavenge free radicals, the principle micronutrient antioxidants are vitamin E, beta-carotene, and vitamin C. Additionally, selenium, a trace metal that is required for proper function of one of the body's antioxidant enzyme systems, is sometimes included in this category. The body cannot manufacture these micronutrients so they must be supplied in the diet.
Endurance exercise can increase oxygen utilization from 10 to 20 times over the resting state. This greatly increases the generation of free radicals”
The body fights free radicals with antioxidants. Adding more electrons may generate more free radicals since they can be made by adding or subtracting an electron.
Actually studies show that applying direct current to the body creates more free radicals, not diminish them.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7841663
“Sperm subjected to direct electric stimulation in vitro exhibited a significant twofold decrease in percent motility and percent viability.
These studies indicate that in vitro and in vivo electrical stimulation generate reactive oxygen species and affect SOD activity, which in part are responsible for decreased sperm motion and viability.” [“reactive oxygen species” is a type of free radical]
Notice that report is talking about direct current. Clark Zappers and similar units output direct current switched on and off at the output frequency. Robert Beck said that direct current “wrecks the blood” which is why his blood electrifier output alternating current to avoid that problem of free radical generation.
Free Radicals in Chemistry and Biology by Milan Lazar
“Electrolytic Generation of Free Radicals
At the heterolytic dissociation of the molecule two ions are formed with opposite charges. If a direct electric current passes through the system, anions move towards the positive electrode-anode, whereas cations move to the negative electrode-cathode. At the anode, anions are oxidized so that they transmit the electron to the electrode and are transformed to radicals. At the cathode, cations accept the electrons and are reduced to radicals. Electrolysis of potassium acetate in water is one of the best-known electrode reactions. Acetate anions are oxidized there to acetoxy radicals.”
Lie #3:
“Our device originates from seven MDs, three Ph.D.s, and two D.Scs.”
Ha! They list both Robert Beck and Hulda Clark although Beck said that Hulda Clark Zappers don’t work. None of the people listed ever said that a Zapper adds electrons to the body which takes care of free radicals.
Lie #4:
“When our customers use a Thundervolt zapper, they intake a stream of electrical charges, called electrons, into their body. This results in an increase of electrical energy within that individual. Using our simple, quick and safe Body Tester, one can find out their personal level of body strength.”
There is no scientific proof of their claims for their Zapper and Body Tester.
Lie #5:
“Thundervolt’s are particularly useful for women. The criss-cross exchange of outputs upon the second and third zaps puts a wide variety of waveforms across the chest area between the handholds. A great deal of medical literature suggests that this can (1) prevent breast cancer, (2) lung cancer, or (3) clean parasites out of breast milk before an infant consumes it. All three are important issues for women.”
There is no supporting medical literature for this wild claim.
Lie # 6:
“A Thundervolt zapper, with its capacity to insert alternate waveforms into the female chest attributes [breasts], can destroy free radicals, toxins or poisons before they have time to cause individual cell destruction or reach concentrated levels.”
Wow! Now he also includes toxins and poisons that his zapper can neutralize as well as free radicals. This bullshit pile is getting larger and larger. But this doesn’t surprise me because everyone who follows in Hulda Clarks footsteps are pathological liars and scam artists.
Lie #7:
“Thundervolt zappers use isolation transformers with a DC (direct current) output. To receive a harmful shock from a Thundervolt powered by wall voltage is simply not possible.”
The lie here is that the transformer they use provides sufficient protection but it doesn’t. All medical equipment is required by the FDA to have two isolation transformers in case the first one shorts out due to overload or a lightning strike. Theirs only has one. This is why all good electromedicine units that utilize electrodes on the patient uses batteries as their power source to avoid the risk that transformers pose. When lightning goes into a houses electrical wiring it can jump across the one isolation transformer and across the Thundervolt circuitry to the user.
CONCLUSION
The main premise of Thundervolt is that it’s a donor of electrons to neutralize free radicals and that the electric current kills pathogens. Both these ideas are completely wrong as I have shown here. Buyer Beware of another Clark scam artist.
To take care of free radicals take your vitamins (but not in mega-doses). To take care of virus and bacteria use a Beck Blood Electrifier such as BioElectric’s Microbe Electrifier. To take care of parasites investigate natural cures or go to a parasitologist and take the worm killing drugs. I know of no electromedicine device being sold that is effective.- Re: ThunderVolt Zapper lies KOT10
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This is a reply to # 2,389,857Sadly, Jaguar must be having a real hard time. While I have seen no proof of the Thunderbolt claims, I have not seen any proof of Jaguars claims about Thunderbolt or anything other claims that he makes. His reporting of Dr. Thiels study is definitely distorted and bent to moving customers to his products. He did try to produce and sell both Clark and Beck devices but they were not a match for any of the new zappers. Crudely made and antiquated at best.
If the Beck zappers was actually worthwhile, I would be making them instead of the technologically advance products that we offer.
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