Sleep, self-gratification - relation... 
Jo86
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hey forum,
it's a well known thing that some spank the monkey to go to bed. As some of you know, I'm completely dying these days and it's getting worse by the day - NOTICEABLY. I don't know what the hell is causing such a big change daily...anyways.
Today I masturbated around 1pm, couldn't hold it, was extremely stimulated, for some reason in my supreme misery of brainfog and being lost in space all the while being in my body. And then, though I'd woken up at 11:20am I went back to bed and felt very relaxed, tried some deep breathing but felt in minutes I was falling asleep.
Now it's 6:30pm, and I'm still 'hung over' from having slept about 20min.
BUT THE LARGER POINT IS:
could it be my entire adrenal destruction is based on masturbation and sleep alone ? or at least, those being a huge aspect of it ?
After all, the only thing that noticeably makes me physically worse/better is sleep.
If I sleep and wake up late, I feel far beyond miserable, it's unutterable. And if I contain that a bit, I feel better....relatively...
Maybe they work together...and I've tried stopping mast. totally, but only held for a week, and had to do it again coz I don't drink anymore, rarely have any food I like, and quit smoking...it's sort of my only relief. Didn't feel a difference in a week, though I'm sure everyone will say 'well it's not enough to assess'.
Your thoughts ? (please !)- Re: Sleep, self-gratification - rela... #147592
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This is a reply to # 2,089,089It has a huge effect when you are in a weakened state (like AF). as your adrenals get excited and release adrenaline during the deed. then have to work harder to replenish lost hormones. It can definitely wear your energy down and help tire the adrenals - especially when they are week.
If you must do it, I recommend not doing it to completion - until you are stronger. you'll "know" when you can handle it and it doesn't cause such a draining effect anymore.
You might want to into the Aneros line of prostate massagers. They can be deeplysoothing and relaxing and less draining than spanking the money traditionally. - Re: Sleep, self-gratification - rela... dave505
11 y
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This is a reply to # 2,089,089yoe,
you might wana search a similar post of smb maybe 1-2 months ago on AF forum and our answers to him. there were some good ideas. And also another guy asking about ejaculation like 3-4 weeks ago on AF forum. I searched through my messages but cant find them.
I dont want to say again the same things :)but basically I suggest to find DIFFERENT ways to find pleasure, relaxation or whatever that is that it droves you do it.
There is a reason why you do it and not all the time is sexua| drive...We dont judge here just try to help each other...no guilt but try different ways
please search the messages ...we had some recommandation regarding also supplements to help recovery...
Adrenals will not recover if you continue this practice sorry to say that...easy to say than done but have to change that, man...for your own good
its like the Sugar addict...time will help if you reduce it...I keep one sexua| intercourse per month...
good luck
PS: did you manage to send the Doctors Data stool sample? just curious about effectiveness
- Re: Sleep, self-gratification - rela... Jo86
11 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,089,360thanks, both of you, for your replies.
But I was rather looking for answers about the *relationship* between sleep and spanking it.
Oh and you can judge away ! I don't mind it..as long as there's a genuine intention to help, I take it upon myself if I fail...
It was extremely hard to send it out (from France), because of the organic content of the package. Had to put it inside some other box, etc...
it's there, waiting eagerly - VITALLY - for the results.
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- Re: Sleep, self-gratification - rela... Tizona
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,089,089--"could it be my entire adrenal destruction is based on masturbation and sleep alone ?"--
you need to read this
http://yourbrainonporn.com/
there's a lot of discussion there about the Science behind masturbation and how it affects neurotransmitters, mood, sleep cycles etc.
Here is a community of people who support each other abstaining from masturbation and report some rather amazing benefits from it. One of the benefits that's repeated over and over again is better concentration levels And less brain fog
http://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap
- Re: Sleep, self-gratification - rela... Jo86
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- Re: Sleep, self-gratification - rela... Blistering Fate
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This is a reply to # 2,089,089Sleep and masturbation are important. Sleep its huge. So yes your entire problem could be based in these, but its not likely. You need to limit masturbation to one per week (or nothing) and work to get acceptable sleep (god knows how, I have tried lots of things with limited success). I know how you feel, but masturbating depletes of chi your already tired body. Sex on the other hand isnt as bad, there is like a exchange of etheric energy, but certainty its also something that will stress your body if done excessively. There is actually a forum built entirely in the idea that overmasturbation causes AF , we have tons of cases, so yeah dave and the others are right on the money. The forum its recover-forumup.com.
I too when I sleep late or oversleep I feel like the walking shit. Sleeping earthed has corrected my sleep onset insomnia so now I am not longer suicidal. And its easy to see how when you wank its an stress hormone party.
Anyway, adrenal fatigue causes bad sleep and bad sleep causes adrenal fatigue. So you should be treating your adrenal fatigue on top of stop wanking as much (lol) and trying to get deep sleep in the proper time frame and quantity. - Re: Sleep, self-gratification - rela... gatorkea
11 y
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This is a reply to # 2,089,089man i can totally relate to your problem, it seems like a very strong urge , I have to do it at times, usually 3-4 times a week or everyday for weeks at its worst. I find that it is worse depending what I eat, or supplement, like stimulating foods and herbs, make it really bad, the worst was trying adderall for my ADHD a few years ago, I was wankin it alllll day long but couldnt get an ejaculation until like 7 hours later, it was a horrible experience, maca was pretty bad too. But nowadays, I dont take stuff like that, it seems that other factors cause my horniness, like having too much pottassium or something.
And the brain fog , mental slowness is killing me, it can last for a few hours to a few days after ejaculation. Hope you can figure it out , cuz I cant.- Re: Sleep, self-gratification - rela... Jo86
11 y
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This is a reply to # 2,089,918I still look at pics or occasionally vids online, but won't touch my junk.
I think I have to stop at least two weeks to see a difference. I tried quitting a week before a few times, neither time had I improved at all.
Good luck to you too. I wish there were a purely scientific way to actually measure the fatigue in parameters, and it raise or lower after I've eaten smt/done smt...
Right now it's all hypothetical. In theory, it's bad to wank during AF. But is that really what's making me NOTICEABLY WORSE DAILY ?...or is it possibly a tiny little difference I may not even *feel*...?- Re: Sleep, self-gratification - rela... gatorkea
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This is a reply to # 2,090,017I like a lot of things this guy says, but not many doctors are against frequent ejaculation http://drlwilson.com/ARTICLES/MASTURBATION.htm
- Re: Sleep, self-gratification - rela... 155216
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This is a reply to # 2,090,228Wilson is an utter christian crack pot, and deeply offensive. If you want to put someone who has thoughts like below in charge of your health.....
'Get rid of the girlie photos, magazines, website, and friends who talk about it, also. Ladies, this applies to some of you, as well. Stop talking dirty, stop staring at boy’s and men’s bodies, and stop flirting with your dress, looks, behavior, etc. All of this perpetuates the problem, and can set a woman up for rape very easily.'
'A rape or some other trauma can lead to masturbation in girls, as can too much emphasis on sex, sexy clothes, sexy talk, doing your hair and so on. This can also happen to boys and men, but it is much less commonly the cause.'
but as Wilson says, go have a fiddle and then eat eight hamburgers! Hysterical.
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