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I am posing a simple question here. Why on earth is "water only" such a difficult concept for people to grasp on this forum? The words are explicit and simple. Water only. I continue to question why people come here and say "what about adding..." There are many other fasting forums to use that are supportive of modifications. This forum has always wanted to stay water only. I, for one, respect that and don't post here unless I am on water only.- Re: Why is Water Only such a difficu... chrisb1
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This is a reply to # 2,023,183That is true of course vanderkc, but sometimes there are questions that are either post-fast or pre-fast related, as in diet and so on.
The forum is about water-only-fasting WHILE people are fasting, and should remain as such.
Alternatively, some people are unable to read perhaps?
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,023,192Thank you Chris. I have always tried very hard to respect the sanctity and preciseness of this forum.
I understand that there are trials and questions,pre and post, but the message at the top and the alternative forums for posting were always clear to me and I did not want to disrupt other peoples fasts or repeat so many posts that I have seen that simply, make no sense here. You are a very patient and thoughtful person.
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The answer to the question for me is because it doesn't say "distilled water only".... Water that you get out of a stream has minerals in it. I happen to distill my own and remineralize it with SSKI , Iodine, and Colloidal Silver because I do not wish to consume the toxins that come with bottled drinking water. And believe me, there are plenty of them, even in reverse osmosed drinking and spring.
Am I breaking the rule by remineralizing my own distilled water, or am supposed to only be drinking distilled water only?
Does everyone here use distilled water only? If not, there are trace minerals in the water you are drinking and oogles of micro contaminants. Anything but distilled water is toxic.
But, people who switch to drinking distilled water only develop mineral deficiencies and get sick, even if they are eating food. The minerals in water are essential for life. Food is not. The problem is, all the water that is on this planet is toxic at this time, unless you distill it.
The last time I fasted, I drank bottled spring water, and I had nothing else for 7 days. I felt horrible for the first three days and then I was terribly weak for 4 more. I had been planning to go for 10, but I couldn't even talk without running out of breath by day 7. And I was dropping weight dramatically. I was afraid that I might have a heart attack. I only weighed 105 pounds to begin with and I was down to 95. I can't afford to lose very much or I will look like I've been living in a prison camp.
I am three days into water only fasting again. But this time I am drinking my own remineralized water instead of spring water from the grocery store. I have not gotten the shakes. I do not feel weak at all. I do not feel hungry. I've had no pain, no fever, and no headache. I feel just fine, as if I'd been eating.
I even had a bowel movement last night, although I do not expect those to continue. I was probably just ridding my body of any residual food. I had one brief mild "feeling hungry" urge yesterday. It went away when I drank some water. I am packing to move and I did 20 backbend pushups to show off to someone yesterday. I did three loads of laundry last night.
I am having strange thoughts like I'm not sure if I ever want to eat again.
I suspect there are some human parasites that need the same minerals I need in order to survive. So I am going to try a distilled water only, no minerals added fast, to see what that is like and make sure I am not feeding them by remineralizing my distilled water.
But I am never going to fast with bottled spring water again, because I believe that is what made me get horribly weak feel so terrible last time.
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This is a reply to # 2,023,450Hi Glaxony,
I suppose no one ever thought of the forum title being the "distilled water only fasting forum", but that is the usual recommendation from most.
The problem with re-mineralizing distilled water is that this is considered to be allowing the body to "feed" with nutrition, and not allowing the body to live exclusively on its reserves. In this way the body is "duped" (if you like) into being on a "mineral diet" and this can lead to deficiencies in other nutrients such as vitamins and essential fatty acids and so on. So for example, a very restricted diet that is devoid of Vitamin C will develop scurvy, but on a water-only-fast this will not occur.
Your comment that people drinking distilled water only develop mineral deficiencies and get sick, even if they are eating food, is not actually correct, because most of our minerals come from food sources that are metamorphosed by plants into a bioavailable form, whereas the minerals we receive from water are in the inorganic form and of no use to the body whatsoever. In fact these minerals only serve to clog the body even further as waste because they are not bioavailable.
Your favorable reactions to drinking re-mineralized water is that elimination or detox is inhibited because you are in feeding mode. This is the same reaction when people experience what is known as "toxic hunger": going without food for a certain short period of time which allows detox to begin in releasing toxins into the bloodstream, but when nourishment is reintroduced the detox symptoms go away in halting the detox process.
There is a saying on a water-only-fast that states: "the worse the symptoms of detox, the greater the need of the fast".
I would agree with you here..........
"I suspect there are some human parasites that need the same minerals I need in order to survive. So I am going to try a distilled water only, no minerals added fast, to see what that is like and make sure I am not feeding them by re-mineralizing my distilled water".
Detox can be a severe experience as I discovered on my own first protracted fast but if you "grin and bear" the rewards far exceed the discomfort.
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Thank you so much!
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Your comment that people drinking distilled water only develop mineral deficiencies and get sick, even if they are eating food, is not actually correct, because most of our minerals come from food sources that are metamorphosed by plants into a bioavailable form, whereas the minerals we receive from water are in the inorganic form and of no use to the body whatsoever. In fact these minerals only serve to clog the body even further as waste because they are not bioavailable.
I am very health conscious and my diet is superior to most of the people I know. I thought I could switch to distilled water only because of the superior quality of salt that I use when I cook, and I buy fresh vegetables from the farmers market. But when I tried it I discovered that I needed some additional trace minerals in my water that I was not getting from my food.
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This is a reply to # 2,023,475When I did my last extended water fast, I added nothing to the water except changed the types of water that I used based upon what I could afford.
I was primarily room temp distilled, occasionally towards the end, filtered water, spring water and a couple of bottles of distilled water with electrolytes already included. A couple of days towards the end, I couldn't afford that and used tap water instead of the filtered water from my fridge. That is when I got violently ill and couldn't keep water down at all but I was also over a month in and deep into fat stores that I knew were completely toxic because of the length of my illnesses.
I painted my skin with Iodine only one day during the fast and then, just decided to let the water process continue. Was it easy, no. Did the water always taste good, no. Can I now move much better and am refeeding to start another water fast. Yes. But, since I have spent a good majority of my life "tweaking" things and they stayed ok but not fixed and this time things got fixed, I am not tweaking on a water fast. On a modified fast to get joints from acidic to alkaline, yes, I will tweak. And I have tried the add of baking soda to my water to alkalize...it also makes me violently ill as does adding Sea Salt or trying to do the "water cure" and salt cleanse.
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"But when I tried distilled water, I discovered that I needed some additional trace minerals in my water that I was not getting from my food".
Presents yet another problem with todays food supply, which is largely "cultivated" and from soils that are growing increasingly more deficient in all minerals required for human health. In an ideal World where the soils are fertile this wouldn't be a problem, but as far back as 1936 there was a Senate report: Senate Document 264 of the 74th Congress, 2nd Session 1936.....................
http://www.dailypaul.com/92623/1936-us-senate-report-soil-depleted-99-of-amer...
and this was back in 1936!!!! and the soils have not been repleted with minerals ever since that time, and the very same reason I supplement with comprehensive organic plant-based minerals from either Cellfood or a quality Marine Phytoplankton.
However, re' minerals, our very own Hopinso states this very eloquently.................
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=759032#i
and my own contribution here from Dr. Ron Kennedy, MD from Santa Rosa, CA...........................
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1345688#i
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This is a reply to # 2,023,550Thank you so much for the informative links. I did not use distilled water the last time because the name of the forum is NOT "Distilled Water Only Fasting" and I thought I had to use spring water in order to be a purest. Duh!!!! I used spring even though I have my own distiller.
Despite the stupid blunder, I felt sooo much better for two months after anyway. I am eager to find out what benefit I will derive from fasting on distilled water with no minerals. I switched a couple of hours ago and it feels like a rope is tightening around my throat. I am beginning to get tired. The time I have allotted for this fast is almost up and I will have to start moving in a couple of days, so I may have to wait a month or two before I can fit it into my schedule again.
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By your own admission you are changing the "water". You also fasted on spring water, now you are "remineralizing" water. But Colloidal Silver and baking soda are not part of water, especially not distilled water. No one, except you has said, distilled water only. They merely say, water. You are the one that posted "what about water with....." so you obviously were thinking perhaps it wasn't "water" or you would not have posed the comment/question for remarks.
I am sorry that you had a difficult time with your Water Fast but it isn't for everyone which is why there are so many types of fasting groups besides water only.
Best of luck on whatever health pursuit you are going for now.
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This is a reply to # 2,023,492vanderkc,
The vast majority of experienced and qualified water-fasting supervisors state that distilled water is superior to any other forms of water: pure H2O.
I think glaxony was making a mistake in adding anything to water, but that was his choice, if not entirely appropriate in a water-only-fasting forum.
You mention that water-fasting isn't for everyone, and of course there is a grain of truth in that, but any contraindications to water-only-fasting are quite rare. We should also bear in mind that fasting with water taken according to thirst, is Natures very own preferred method of healing, and physiologically adapted to any organic life-form.
It is true though that there are many factions to fasting and methods of doing so, but the most effective healing and cleansing is only brought about with water only: this was and is the experience of everyone within Natural Hygiene (including Doctors of Medicine and other qualified health professionals) from its inception, in the early to mid 1800's. Of course other fasting methods such as juice-fasting do have their merits and benefits but do not compare nearly as well.
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Chris,
I agree completely, thank you for responding and apologize for the disruption. My water only fast...though not completely distilled water only was very private, spiritual and gracious and allowed me to release a lot of internal negativity which has begun to resurface so I need to quiet myself again and remove myself from humanity and energies that are still disruptive to me, even from distances.
My water only fast was a mostly pleasant but very challenging and positive experience, which I would not have had with using additives of any kind. I also would have ruined it by commenting or responding to any negatives.. I was looking for peace, health and recovery and I received it during my first water fast. I do need to do another and keep it just as quiet and private for a fast is not meant to be a beacon or peacock tail, but to be for an inner journey that one needs to go through.
I have always tended to be a bit too sensitive so I have learned to research what "creates a thorn in my psyche". I was right to minimize interaction and response to anything and just work within the parameters of what I believe and the tenements of this forum.
Thank you for responding. I will no longer engage in any combative or challenging exchanges here. I find them draining, uselesss and unproductive. I enjoy the silence here with the peaceful demeanor.
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This is a reply to # 2,023,594Hi vanderkc,
I don't think anyone has caused a disruption or intended to, and I think it is healthy to engage in offering different perspectives and ideas, after all this is a democratic forum. My comments are not designed to be the "last word" or the "final declaration" on anything to do with this subject, and welcome differing inputs and sifting of ideas.
Ultimately, we make our own judgments and follow our own path, all we can do is offer and air our own experiences and the experiences of others who have gone before us in achieving our mutual goals.
You are absolutely right in my view that fasting is a private affair and an inner reflection, soul-searching if you will, and if this is combined with peace and tranquility during its conduct, and the post fast refeeding period, we have much to gain.
You are also right in avoiding any combative or challenging exchanges here or anywhere else for that matter, as it is indeed draining or enervating, and counterproductive to our aims of recuperating energies or the life-force we have lost, but then we should remember who instigated the thread and brought this about? Lessons are learnt every single day, and life is too short for any one individual to have all the answers. We live and learn from each other in a spirit of mutual cooperation with common aims and goals.
This is how it should remain.
Take care.
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I was Water Fasting on Reverse Osmosis water...
This water is Neutral...
How much different is RO water from Distilled?
I just had all the filters changed before I fasted and the water guy tested and said it was as pure as distilled...
Nothing was shown to be in it..
I just want to be clear for my next fast.....
How long should one wait between 20-30 day fasts?- Re: Why is Water Only such a difficu... vanderkc
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This is a reply to # 2,023,655You also stated that you added "rice" and salt occasionally to the water and you are so slim and alkaline, I don't even know that fasting is working on your mass...and we already know that you dislike the physicians prognosis and what they want to do.
You are perhaps better off staying with your juices and concentrating on those that work on the mass you are trying to remove from your body.- Re: Why is Water Only such a difficu... rawrnr
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This is a reply to # 2,023,669I agree
The juice is GREAT!
LOVE IT!
I am just looking to the future....
If it is necessary, I will water it again!
Yes, I added rice... as u added your Smart Water...
for minerals...
- Re: Why is Water Only such a difficu... vanderkc
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This is a reply to # 2,023,679Yup, I never said I didn't. I did add other bottled water things...I stayed as true as a could to the fast and when nothing would work but ending it, it had to stop and try to rebuild. You will and already seem to be at a good point reserve wise. I still have my inflammation and my stored inflammation from the years of arthritis, acidic eating, stress, etc.
I have enough stores to go again physiially. Mine was always more emotional and mental then physical. I reaped great benefits on all fronts but I am seeing how short lived the gains can be based upon the testing of foods for refeeding and restoring reserves and prepping for another round of Water Fast and alkaline status. I have test strips for both this time around but I want to take a few days of megadoses of d3 and omega3 plus some multi vitamins for a few days before I begin again. I am not in a position to inject myself with b complex and lipolysis aminos right now so I will have to try to get as much in by mouth as possible if my body will absorb them. It didn't before, I hope it will do a bit more now!
Anyway, I know that you had a couple of personal breakthroughs, whether you wanted them or not and hope that you are happy to have been there, done that, never to repeat it!
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This is a reply to # 2,023,183I think water with added electrolytes still qualifies as a Water Fast and is often needed for a very extended water fast.
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"Taking nutritional supplements during a fast is unnecessary and can create unpleasant symptoms".
"I have found that the results of blood tests for vitamin and mineral levels change little during the fast: tests are expensive and unnecessary".
"Other Physicians than myself who have fasted thousands of patients do not find supplemental vitamins/minerals of any value during this period"............Dr Joel Fuhrman MD.
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This is a reply to # 2,024,493That may be true in general, but after 60 days electrolytes in my water allowed me to safely continue fasting without complication.
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