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Hello all! I am wondering if someone can give me their thoughts on what might be going on. My doctor has prescribed a bunch of Diflucan pills for me as I'd been having daily gastritis since being treated for h.pylori twice, and a bunch of sinus infections before that. After the h.pylori treatment I also had chronic diarrhea and flu-like symptoms so I was also treated for possible c.diff without a test (that's another story).
As I'd had all those Antibiotics the doc thought I might have candida overgrowth. She told me to take one every 4 days initially to see how I felt, and then I could increase to one a day. About a week and a half ago, I took the first Diflucan and my gastritis cleared up overnight. I felt very tired, and had sinus headaches and muscle aches. But by the 4th day after taking it my gastritis was coming back. So, I took another pill, and felt even more tired and achy than before but no gastritis. However, like last time, 4 days after I took the pill I started having stomach problems. This time I had twisting pains to the left of my bellybutton but in the lower abdomen, lots of gurgling and cramping and occassional diarrhea. I also feel so exhausted like I have the flu.
I understand that a person can experience these things with die-off. But I am confused about the timing. I have read that Diflucan stays in your system for about 4 days, and that seems to be when the gut problems are coming back. You'd think I'd have these issues shortly after taking the Diflucan and not when it's coming out of my system.
Does this sound like die-off, and should I continue with the treatment? Or should I stop? I'm worried that it's not candida after all and I'm allowing some other bacteria to grow in my gut by killing off any beneficial fungi that might be keeping c.diff at bay. So frustrating that I don't know whether I had c.diff or not.
I feel pretty bad right now and am afraid to take anything at this point! I don't want to make it worse.
Does anybody have any input on this, similar experiences or advice?
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- Re: Is this Die-off? Gut problems 4 ... AngelofEventide
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This is a reply to # 2,001,207It sounds like candida to me, just by going by similar symptoms I have had with die-off. Did your doctor talk about putting you on probiotics at all?
- Re: Is this Die-off? Gut problems 4 ... objoyfl
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This is a reply to # 2,001,338It's strange that your doctor didn't order a stool test for you to look for C-diff. It's an easy stool test. At least that's something you can easily rule out and put your mind to rest on that question. More than anything else, it sounds like candida die off to me as well.
I've taken Diflucan and I had all kinds of aches and pains in many different places, especially the kidneys, to a point where I thought I was getting a urinary tract infection. But I held out and continued the treatment and the aching subsided. I was 5'1" and 115 lbs. and took 100 mg. Diflucan every night for a long time (not sure if body mass matters when prescribing, but maybe it does) and got through it OK. I ate an alkaline-forming diet (mostly above the ground vegs) and used cleansing herbs/teas. The die off is easier to handle when your system is not overloaded with gunky foods. My candida was very severe, with leaky gut, and I took Diflucan for a long time. It's best to get liver enzyme tests once a month if you're going to be on Diflucan for an indeterminate length of time like I was. This is a simple blood test, called an SGPT, that measures the body's manufacture of liver enzymes. This tests the health of your liver so as to know if you can handle the Diflucan as this drug is systemically metabolized through the liver.
- Re: Is this Die-off? Gut problems 4 ... liongirl30
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This is a reply to # 2,001,338Thanks for your reply! :)
She has told me to take probiotics. The annoying thing is that I've been taking them all along, during the h.pylori treatments, etc. It's like my body can't fight off whatever is going on.
I'm currently using a powder form of probiotics, drinking Kefir and also using the Now brand Candida Clear.
I'm freaked out just because I'm having this localized pain on the left side of my lower abdomen. Like it's inflamed or something. I don't want to make it worse, but if it is die-off I don't want to be scared off from continuing the treatment.
So, it can be normal to experience these things so many days in after just one pill?Advertisement
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- Re: Is this Die-off? Gut problems 4 ... objoyfl
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This is a reply to # 2,001,359How is your elimination? It could also be that a bowel is backed up, or else it's diverticulitis. Whatever you do, do not take a laxative! I had the same pain one time, took a laxative and ended up with appendicitis and had to have my appendix taken out! Anyway, have you been checked for diverticulitis? This is where a food seed, such as tomato or strawberry seed, or roughage, gets trapped in a pocket of the (usually) descending colon (descending large intestine) and if it doesn't work its way loose can create infection requiring Antibiotics . On the other hand, it could be from the Diflucan. The only way to know for sure which it is, is to rule out diverticulitis. If your doc doesn't understand this, get another professional opinion ASAP. Does the pain go away when you don't take the Diflucan? Does the pain come and go?
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- Re: Is this Die-off? Gut problems 4 ... AngelofEventide
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,001,359There are probiotics and then there are probiotics. I have taken nearly every probiotic on the market, including the very high count ones and none of them made any difference to me. I am now on a much lower c.f.u. count one, but one that is a human micro flora probiotic and I've had noticeable improvement.
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This is a reply to # 2,001,207Fluconazole needs taken 1 - 2 x daily. It certainly does not have a 4 day half life. By that time, it's almost completely out of your body so the symptoms sound like they are most likely due to regrowth of the fungi.
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