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A big shout out to the big usernames who post a lot on the forums, I've been searching CZ for months and really appreciate everyone's expertise and efforts to help each other.
My digestive troubles started last fall and I haven't been able to get back in balance. Recently started seeing two different doctors with no diagnosis or cure as of yet. I am my own physician in a sense, as you all can relate.
I'm wracking my brain trying to think of a cause for the beginning of my problems. Did I get infected somehow? Picked up a parasite somewhere? Bacteria from drinking raw milk? Did I get constipated from too high protein in my diet and then fed an overgrowth of yeast with too much Ben and Jerrys and frozen pizzas?
Rumbling, gurgling, noisy tummy; with knock-your-socks-off putrid gas, random intermittent abdominal distension (up to 5") that didn't seem to be food related. Constipation that I never had before. I kept a food journal for months and tried to figure out what I was eating that was causing a problem, if there were malabsorption issues from a specific food.
I've been researching the possibilities of Candida overgrowth and wondering if I have it - and if it was CAUSED by a bacterial overgrowth in the small intestine, or parasites.
My diet has been 100% clean since January. Nothing from a box, bag, can, or frozen that is more than 1-2 ingredients. No Sugar or sweeteners of any kind. I'm in about a month with no grains, no legumes, no potatoes. Just last week when I had a flare up, I got really pissed off and wrote off fruit (I was having about 2-3 servings a day of fresh fruit).
Basically what I've done is combined three different diets: the low-FODMAP diet for SIBO, the SCD diet for leaky gut, and now the no-fruit approach to starving yeasts. Whatever is the matter with my guts?!!
My question for you, the reader, is: Are my flare ups because I'm doing something RIGHT, or something WRONG?
(i.e. "Is this a die-off of something" or "am I continuing to feed the beast - what else can I cut out of my diet?")
Right now I am eating:
Celery, Carrots, Tomatoes, Spinach, Spring greens, Romaine, Bell peppers, raw garlic (with caution), cucumbers, zucchini, broccoli, green beans, and occasionally a beet or mushroom or avacado; something I sneak in because I USED to be able to eat it and I trick myself into thinking I can handle it again without my guts going into turmoil. I've sneaked some pumpkin, summer squash, turnips and parsnips, but not with a clear conscience, and if a flareup happened, I'd blame the starchy veggies.
Grass fed beef, free range eggs and chicken, salmon, tuna, ham, turkey, sometimes bacon.
Nuts and seeds - all of 'em except peanuts and pistachios - sometimes in moderation, sometimes I overeat them when I'm craving fat.
Oils, yeah, the good ones, on salads or in cooking.
Fruits WERE the "easily digestible" "low fructose" ones such as strawberry, kiwi, orange, grapefruit, pineapple, banana, blueberries, grapes, lemon/lime, cantaloupe, raspberries - and not much fruit anyway because I'm afraid of it.
I love garlic and onions but have been afraid to eat them in case my problem is SIBO-related.
I've been off of dairy for 3 weeks, but all winter I've been EXTREMELY LOW dairy anyway. 1 oz of raw cheese here or there, some homemade kefir, a splash of milk in my now nonexistent morning coffee, etc. That was easy to get rid of.
This is wrecking my life, the constant preoccupation with food, the terrible distention that flares up randomly with no apparent reason, the social situations with avoiding specific foods, the terrible blow to the self-esteem, the low energy and lack of drive and motivation. I've never been without carbs and sugars before, I LIKE this Primal/Paleo way of eating and I never want to go back to grains, however, something still needs fixed.
one of my Drs gave me two doses of Nystatin, while it helped to clear up constipation and bloat temporarily, it came right back. The other doctor had me go off dairy products for 3 weeks to see if that would help, and did stool tests for O&P, C Diff and ghiardia. Negatory.
My biggest questions for you are as follows:
Is there a particular ORDER in which I should be cleaning house?!
Is that order: 1. parasite cleanse, 2. Candida Cleanse, 3. Liver Flush, Re-build/repair Colon with probiotics, continue with strict diet for 6-12 months before I add back in.... what? Fruits? Starches? Dairy?
Oops, I forgot about the possibility of metal toxicity... sigh... I haven't looked into that much, honestly.
I just started ParaGONE a few days ago and am rotating through all the possible herbal routes for antibacterial/antifungal/antiparasitic cleansing.
I've always had a healthy appetite, I love food, I love cooking from scratch, I love being active, running, lifting heavy weights, having an occasional glass of wine with my loved ones. This fear of food and feeling of overwhelmed-ness with not knowing what to eat (or not eat) to avoid the terrible distention, noxious gas, constipation, and mucus-y blobs coming out of my butt, indigestion - this isn't normal, for anyone, to have to avoid foods, and I don't know how to fix it.
Can anybody offer advice or help me? I have a life to live, like you do, and this is driving me crazy. The loss of sleep, the anxiety, the hunger/insatiability that ends in choosing the wrong food when you finally do eat, to not gain much energy from it, the fear of adding coconut or cocoa or raisins back into my diet because I want a TREAT after months of deprivation..... it gets to you after a while.
I don't have Sugar cravings, but sometimes I do want chocolate. 100% organic cacao, yes please, I'll eat a whole ounce of it and savor it. Bread cravings? Nope, but I'm perfectly happy with my egg/flax meal muffins with some shredded carrot and vanilla and cinnamon thrown in for sweetness. I make my own almond milk sometimes and enjoy an occasional kombucha for a treat. I'm not picky, I like sour and bitter and spicy, I'm not afraid of going without, but it's the uncertainty and indecision, the making decisions that don't seem to work, that is really discouraging.
What else should I cut out? Meat/eggs/protein? Or nuts/oils/fat? What should I do first? Why can some people tolerate coconut milk and make bread with coconut flour, and other people say hells no? Or probiotics? Are they hurting me? (I stopped taking them for the duration I'm doign the paraGONE).
Next week I am starting an Elemental Diet formula, a low-residue (Absorb Plus) shake for two weeks to feed myself but starve out any bugs down below. Then I can POW POW 'em and knock 'em loose, flush 'em out, and make sure they don't come back. When I add solids back in, I'm THINKING to do all cooked veggies, raw veggies, and meats/eggs. Hold off on the nuts/seeds/dairy for a few months afterward...
Any ideas? Please offer any suggestions or advice you might have, I appreciate your input, we are on our own here.
I appreciate your taking the time to read my story and consider how to help me. This is putting quite a strain on my emotional, relational, and mental health, besides physical!
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This is a reply to # 1,924,343My History:
1 year of figuring out pain and weird reaction to sugar. After candida diagnosis, went on high protein and salad diet which completely failed. Last november i researched the fat and candida connection and that has allowed me to get back to work and function. I figured out that the red meat and nuts were causing flareups just as bad as sugar. When It spread to my groin I had a clear representation of the effects of fatty foods. When I ate fat, it flared up. When I went low fat it went away.
Now a month ago I went vegan and am feeling great. All of the nutrients that I thought I was getting from meat wasn't digesting anyway. I had low protein levels despite eating steak every day.
My diet is a lot of green vegetables and avoiding hunger with potatoes, rice, quinoa, or yucca root. When I went on just broccoli and spinach, I get candida leaving the body in the bathroom and a clearer head. These are the perfect foods.
So do some research on:
Candida Liver
Fat and Candida
Alkalizing Foods and Candida.
Please read through my threads over the past week. There's lots of people against what worked for me, but plenty that have had success.
I can tell you for a fact that if you eliminated all that fat you will get more control. It's an odd diet because I try to get as much nutrition as possible from spinach and broccoli, when for normal people the biggest part of the meal is carb and meats.
These experts helped me figure it out.
http://www.fredericpatenaude.com/articles/candida.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcUii0a0gks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VuxYleV8Oc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsmcYRSvwGM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35eZ9BmvTV8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__W7EgrPzTk
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This is a reply to # 1,924,348Thank you so much, Mr. A-87! I have been reading a lot of your posts lately and am considering many things. Going off meats, fats, nuts, Ok, I can do that. But I wonder about this whole "food-combining" thing. People have proven to do really well with just meats/veggies, and others (like you) going vegan. I wonder if there is a correlation with you not being able to digest meats/fats because of the starches you eat.... or conversely, other people not being able to tolerate grains or potatoes because they ingest animal proteins or fats?
Are you suggesting I go low-fat in general?
(Right now I'm snacking on a sizeable dish of organic raw pumpkin seeds, which are high in fat, but also a nasty weapon against parasites.)
I'm familiar with your stance on coconut oil, also, but your being vegan surprises me, as most vegans rely heavily on this highly nutritious plant oil for its benefits.
What's your opinion on food combining?
I am very resistant to going back to eating quinoa, rice, and other grains because I really feel as though the Primal way of living is extremely beneficial and natural, and when I eat too many grains, my carb cravings come back, majorly. Bowls of oatmeal, warm steamy starches like potatoes, I'll be back on Sugar in no time. Starch is like the gateway drug IMHO ;)
I appreciate your input. I just finished reading one of the links you'd posted for somebody else about the Gut and Thyroid Connection. Interesting stuff. I'm definitely looking into your way of thinking.
I never had problems eating meats or fats before, so I think if I did choose this route for healing, I would most likely go back to my "normal" patterns of eating, with the exception of grains and legumes.
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This is a reply to # 1,924,351I agree with the food combination issue you mention. Thats why my addbacks after the greens fasting are just starches. I would rather go the way of getting protein from the grains and greens, than having all digestion tied up by meat. Tried it for a long time and it was scary.. Vegan is my solution for the foreseeable future. I'm not too interested in the vegan lifestyle, but am interested in healthy asian diets that are high in vegetables, dairy free, and meat is used sparingly. It avoids all types of health problems...I think one is candida. This is the diet in poor european history too. The irish had to pretty much live on potatoes, but could work hard laborious jobs. This indian store owner told me my problem was meat, but I wouldn't believe it because Sugar appeared to be the only enemy. The vegans that I subscribe to are obsessed with fat reduction so they are against coconut oils. They are the "fruitarians". This problem is a fatass richman's disease. I was at a table with my friends, where years ago I would indulge in pizza, pasta, and breaded steak. They were all totally obese and I had this disaster of a digestive system. Something tells me the fatty high meat diet is a one way ticket to suffering.
My addition of carbs takes self control. I soak the next day's rice and my potatoes have no animal products and can't be fried so they are hard to crave. I'd like to have beans but I dropped those a couple months ago.
For me there's no habits or old cravings because I have wasted 2 years of my life on this problem and haven't been able to do anything. Living in Miami in your 20s is supposed to be fun. Going to the beach in Brazil should be too. But for me both sucked. I was reminded several weeks ago what it felt like to not be sick and to be able to focus on things not related to food and symptoms.
I'd eat out of a dumpster on a daily basis if it meant a cure of fatigue, severe irritability and low testosterone. Luckily it just looks like an elimination of fat and a focus on easy to digest simple foods to get rid of the nasty infection.
Also look into acid/alkaline balance and the right foods for that. Candida loves an acid environment, created by meats and nuts.- Re: Pulling out the big guns for my ... jameskep37
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Candida can adapt to an acid or alkaline environment. Fungal candida can create ammonia from amino acids and then raise the ph to create more of nuetral to alkaline state. The reason why you might feel better on a low fat, low protein diet is that candida is producing less of its protease and lipase enzymes outside of its cell membrane in which can damage/inflame tissue. Eating broccoli and spinach, rice, potatoes is most likely not going to cause candida to leave because there is nothing really in those foods for candida to want to leave. That diet is keeping candida's damaging enzymes to a minimum. But eventually you'll have to reduce candida's numbers to a minimum and repopulate your gut with good flora or you could be finding yourself on that diet for god knows how long.
I went on a almost fat free/low calorie diet for 2 1/2 months with intentions of starving the candida in the colon. I ate just enough at each meal so that there would be no nutrient value food left over for the candida in the colon. After 2 months I felt great and thought I was on my way of being cured but all it took was less than 2 weeks of a bad diet and the candida was back in full force. My problem is after 2 months I should have continued the diet and started to reduce candidas numbers and do probiotic enemas/probiotics internally?. I have trouble doing this almost no fat diet in the winter time because I work outside in the cold weather and I need some fat to keep my metabolism/energy levels up. Potatoes and rice dont cut it. My point is... that eventually candida's numbers has to be reduced to a minimum and the gut repopulated with good flora. Trying to "rebalance" the gut with the proper strains and levels of good flora is why many of us have been at this battle for so long. Its a very complicated community that has to be in proper balance to remain healthy.
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This is a reply to # 1,924,570I agree and the repopulation needs to be the primary focus as well and a clean free moving colon. The body must relearn proper digestion and assimilation and L-glutamine needs to be taken to heal the gut wall damage to stop the leaky gut from poisoning the blood. Its all a vicious cycle and most of us are using trail and error healing because modern medicine is so corrupted by the AMA,the FDA, and the drug companies, they could care less about health, as profit is their reason for existing.
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This is a reply to # 1,924,363I always thought the same as you but the fact is I have recently discovered that candida loves alkaline and if the stomach and the digestive track are acid candida hates it. The stomach should secret the proper acids and the colon should be only slightly acid to be healthy. Alkalinity in the stomach and colon cause candida to thrive. If this surprises you, welcome to the club I too was surprised by this and since learning about it have taken positive steps toward curing myself. acid stomach = alkaline blood, alkaline stomach equals acid blood because undigested food feeds the pathogens that are causing leaky gut.
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This is a reply to # 1,924,351I have gone off the meat wagon before and gone with the raw foods thing which was good but did nothing for my problem. Have since read that people with my condition and yours need cooked foods and that meat is necessary. I figured out I was not digesting protein properly because of a lack of hcl. Also candida thrives when there is low hcl and will make the stomach even more alkaline. When I started my HCL I could feel the reactions of the fungus dying in my body. Acid stomach equals alkaline blood. alkaline stomach equals acid blood. So proper HCL levels are vital for digestion of protein,destruction of pathagens and yeasts. What happened when I started the HCL tablets which I was doing four or five at a meal, was dizziness which is a cleansing reaction.
I was taking incorrectly at first and now realize you need to wait a half hour after a meal then take one. The next meal take two and then three until you feel a burn which means you need less next time. At least that is what i needed but everyone is different.
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This is a reply to # 1,924,348this is just my experience
I would not recommend a no / low fat diet.
I too had symptoms that were relieved with a no/low fat diet, it worked so well that I stayed on it for over two years (maybe longer?).
While it worked it also caused many other problems such as
lack of bile release which caused deficiencies of fat soluable vitamins D, E, A, and K...=new problems. When you cause these deficiencies you start getting low on hormones and bone mass. This is serious.
Restricting fat will make you more sensitive to fat and cause more of overgrowth of yeast over time because you dont have any bile being released to emulsify fat and act as a natural anti-fungal anti-bacterial and anti- parasite in your gut. (After being off of fat for so long even a tiny 1/4 teaspoon of oil or fat would cause my symptoms to flare like never before which made me even more afraid of fats.)
After researching this fat thing to death. I discovered that yeasts require 09 fats (oleic) to flourish this fat is found in high amounts in meat, dairy, chicken, refined foods etc etc. and yeasts are kept in check with omega 6/gla and omega 3 fatty acids found in fruits, veggies and fish. I was actually deficient in the fats needed to keep my ratio of 09 fats low opposed to 06 fats. (I actually caused this deficiency by abusing fish oil)
If you are dubious do some research on oleic acid and fungus. Fungus needs oleic acid to grow. Its used to grow yeast/fungus on agar plates without it they wont multiply. Studies have shown 06/gla is anti-fungal and anti-bacterial in the body and on the skin.
The research proved correct and in spades. Once I corrected the ratio I no longer flared from any fats- Had I just taken 06/GLA I wouldnt have had to avoid fats in the first place.
I did have to deal with minor flares when I began to re-introduced omega 6/gla into my diet because these oils contain some 09 in them.
Our animal protein foods are high in 09 fats these days because they are being fed grains which raise 09 levels above what they should naturally be. Animals and humans who are eating a diet high in grass/vegetables have higher 06 and 03 levels.
Omega 9 is not a bad fat we just need the correct ratios of all the fats.
One could have a problem converting 06 to GLA which is what I had and only borage or primrose which contains GLA
worked for me.
Sorry if this is confusing Im short on time..
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This is a reply to # 1,924,343>My question for you, the reader, is: Are my flare ups because I'm doing something RIGHT, or something WRONG?
>(i.e. "Is this a die-off of something" or "am I continuing to feed the beast - what else can I cut out of my diet?")
I think it's impossible to tell if you are getting die-off without knowing what you have. I often see people in Curezone talking about die-off without knowing what they have and without waiting for them to feel better to confirm if it was really die-off.
>one of my Drs gave me two doses of Nystatin, while it helped to clear up constipation and bloat temporarily, it came right back. The other doctor had me go off dairy products for 3 weeks to see if that would help, and did stool tests for O&P, C Diff and ghiardia. Negatory.
I have wasted 6 years of my life with this sort of BS, and I had two big problems. 1 finding a doctor that knew what the hell he was doing. 2 finding a parasite test that actually worked.
If you are in USA, you might want to visit Dr Kevin Cahill in NYC for his test. I have tested with Jetty Katz, DiagnosTech, Quest Diagnostics, MetaMetrix and only Dr Cahill's lab was able to identify the problem in USA!!!
Besides Dr Cahill's lab, two other Brazilian labs were able to detect the protozoa that I had, Labion http://labion.com.br/
and "Clinica Aloysio de Carvalho" both located in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Labion was the better lab of the two because it was able to detect both E. Histolytica and Giardia, Clinica Aloysio was only able to detect Giardia.
Cahill's number is 1-212-879-2607 (you can get more of his info if you search)
You might want to buy a parasite book. There is one out there that people like and I think its used in tropical disease college classes. Sorry I forgot the name. I think this might be the one http://www.amazon.com/Hunters-Tropical-Medicine-Emerging-Infectious/dp/141604...
There are older cheaper versions out there I think...
Good luck and please report back. Some people get better and never tell us how they did it. Sharing this type of information can help other people that are suffering and don't know what to do.
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This is a reply to # 1,924,343i just want to say i have a very similar problem as you and most on this forum. I had spent 3 years trying to figure out this mess, i was too focused on candida and heavy metals but chelation and anti fungals didnt really do anything, so I started looking more into leaky gut just recently, and it would make sense that it could be causing my biggest symptoms, they gut needs to heal so i can absorb nutrients, I am going to order an intestinal permeability test to see if this might be the culprit. just a suggestion you could look into that if you want, the test is like 100$. you just drink some stuff and take a 6 hour urine sample. Also did u look into celiac disease?
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This is a reply to # 1,924,343One thing you must realize about so called doctors. they are agents for drug companies and will only treat and not cure anything like what you have.
I would recommend lots of cooked veggies like soups with beef, or chicken broth from the bones. One very important supplement you will need is L-Glutamine, a good quality brand that will rebuild the walls of the colon. I have been trying and using HCL because I have been very low on stomach acid, also my B12 absorption was poor. A new product I just ordered will soon be here to restart the fire in my digestive system something with Tibetian herbs and Chinese mushrooms. This will take time and if you have about 6 months to a year to devote to the correction it can be done. So far you are on the right track, you just need to make some minor adjustments.- Re: Pulling out the big guns for my ... jaetown
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This is a reply to # 1,924,616(A-87 Wrote) I'm not too interested in the vegan lifestyle, but am interested in healthy asian diets that are high in vegetables, dairy free, and meat is used sparingly.
I'm leaning this direction. I have the book "Healing With Whole Foods, Asian Traditions and Modern Nutrition" by Paul Pitchford, and although the approach is very unfamiliar to me, I see a lot of wisdom in it, it's intriguing, and seems to agree very much with what you've been saying.
I was reminded several weeks ago what it felt like to not be sick and to be able to focus on things not related to food and symptoms.
Sigh.... I had a brief glimpse of my old self, too, a couple months ago. I know what it feels like to be healthy, and this isn't it. I'm envious of your being able to not be obsessed with food and symptoms. But happy for you too :)
Also look into acid/alkaline balance and the right foods for that. Candida loves an acid environment, created by meats and nuts.
Yup, that's where I'm headed... this is new stuff to me. I bought a bag of lemons and some organic ACV to take in water every morning with my herbal kombucha tea; I'm planning to do that for the duration of the 2-week Elemental Diet. I can't wait to try that. I have high hopes, thinking it will help to re-set everything down below, so I can still be nourished but starve out anything else while hitting it with the ParaGONE and antifungals.
My current dilemma is deciding whether to go high veggies/meat or high veggies/starches, when I come off the elemental fast. I realize I shouldn't do both meats and starches (either from veggies or selected grains). It seems to me that if I get enough digestible protein from seaweeds, veggies, and *sprouted* grains and seeds, then possibly when I'm feeling healed (after a year perhaps?) I could add back in occasional nuts, eggs, cultured dairy, and cocoa/coconut, or even certain fruits, and be able to digest them properly as before.
(James37 Wrote) The reason why you might feel better on a low fat, low protein diet is that candida is producing less of its protease and lipase enzymes outside of its cell membrane in which can damage/inflame tissue. Eating broccoli and spinach, rice, potatoes is most likely not going to cause candida to leave because there is nothing really in those foods for candida to want to leave.
So basically it will just keep symptoms to a bare minimum, if I eat right; but it won't annihilate any overgrowth. That makes sense. So unless we want to live the rest of our lives on spinach and broccoli, we need to put on our boxing gloves, yes? (To be able to digest starches and/or proteins again)?
I have trouble doing this almost no fat diet in the winter time because I work outside in the cold weather and I need some fat to keep my metabolism/energy levels up.... ...Trying to "rebalance" the gut with the proper strains and levels of good flora is why many of us have been at this battle for so long. Its a very complicated community that has to be in proper balance to remain healthy.
Heard. Everyone really does have to eat for their own body type and their personal signs of "deficiency" or "excess." (that eastern yin/yang stuff that's starting to make sense!). I did really good on a high-carb diet, keeping up with my toddlers at home, running 20+ miles a week, weight training, energy out the wazoo. I could digest anything, and nutrition, while always on the forefront of my mind, wasn't a NEED so much as "yeah, we'll make this change toward eating cleaner, because we should." Now I'm like, wow, I screwed myself up. I don't want my family to end up the same way.
(#122305 Wrote)
Its all a vicious cycle and most of us are using trail and error healing because modern medicine is so corrupted by the AMA,the FDA, and the drug companies, they could care less about health, as profit is their reason for existing.
Seriously!!!! *clink*
.....I figured out I was not digesting protein properly because of a lack of hcl. Also candida thrives when there is low hcl and will make the stomach even more alkaline. When I started my HCL I could feel the reactions of the fungus dying in my body. ....A new product I just ordered will soon be here to restart the fire in my digestive system something with Tibetian herbs and Chinese mushrooms. This will take time and if you have about 6 months to a year to devote to the correction it can be done. So far you are on the right track, you just need to make some minor adjustments.
I do have 6 months to a year; I have longer than that; I have the rest of my life. Wellness is a pursuit and health a lifestyle. I will look into the HCL. I'm just starting to learn about digestive enzymes. It's super hard because these damn doctors aren't in a hurry to find out what's wrong with you, they'll let you suffer for weeks and weeks and months and leave you keep coming back to pay out of your pocket or use up your insurance money, and throw different ideas at you until they stumble upon something. Haha, my doctor that ordered a stool test and told me to go off dairy? I haven't told him yet that I'm doing a parasite cleanse and going on an elememtal diet for 2 weeks, only to return to eating high vegetables and no fruits (or nuts/meat, or starches, whichever I decide upon). We can't wait around for them to figure things out. They know about medicine and disease - not nutrition and wellness.
Or maybe I need to find a different doctor - like an ND ;)
(RONBN49 Wrote) acid stomach = alkaline blood, alkaline stomach equals acid blood because undigested food feeds the pathogens that are causing leaky gut.
That's the first time I've heard that expression, acid stomach=alkaline blood, and vice versa. Easy to remember...
(Jazzydude Wrote) I think it's impossible to tell if you are getting die-off without knowing what you have. I often see people in Curezone talking about die-off without knowing what they have and without waiting for them to feel better to confirm if it was really die-off. ....I have wasted 6 years of my life with this sort of BS, and I had two big problems. 1 finding a doctor that knew what the hell he was doing. 2 finding a parasite test that actually worked.
yeah, I guess I'm screwed. I'll know what the problem was AFTER I fix it, right? Maybe? That's what's killing me, is the undiagnosed problem is causing indecision about which route to take for healing. Testing, whether it be for fructose malabsorption, parasites, leaky gut, fungus, etc... it all seems so subjective and non-reliable. And they seem to play off one another, you almost have to treat them ALL in the proper order. Does anyone agree with this?
(Gatorkea Wrote) I started looking more into leaky gut just recently, and it would make sense that it could be causing my biggest symptoms, they gut needs to heal so i can absorb nutrients, I am going to order an intestinal permeability test to see if this might be the culprit.
That's a test I haven't looked into, good thought. Thanks. I am taking L-Glutamine and BCAAs (I started BCAAs when I started lifting weights), but I wasn't sure if you're supposed to rotate THOSE along with your antifungals or antibacterial herbs. I'm seeing that 7-10 days on, 5-7 days rest, and another 7-10 days on will help hammer any parasitic eggs or knock the yeast back and keep it from mutating.
I did do an enema the other night to get things moving and had some senna tea; I passed some crazy shit that looked like a big dinner-plate pile of brown globby stuff, strings of mucus, and I felt sick to my stomach while passing it. All the next day I was on the crapper about 10 times, small/formed stools, normal color, and a big healthy soft one at the end of the day.
Nothing today. I'm feeling weak and very anxious. Taking the paraGONE with extra Black-Walnut /wormwood, coQ10, Caprylic Acid, and Pau'd'arco, along with Grapefruit-Seed-Extract and D3, and raw garlic as desired.
Next week I'm starting back on large doses of C, peppermint oil, OoO, thyme, garlic, Charcoal, ACV, L-Glut, and magnesium...
So a pretty good mix of healing and detox stuff... We'll see I guess...
Thanks for the comments everyone.... any additional thoughts or input is highly welcomed...!
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This is a reply to # 1,924,683>yeah, I guess I'm screwed. I'll know what the problem was AFTER I fix it, right? Maybe? That's what's killing me, is the undiagnosed problem is causing indecision about which route to take for healing. Testing, whether it be for fructose malabsorption, parasites, leaky gut, fungus, etc... it all seems so subjective and non-reliable. And they seem to play off one another, you almost have to treat them ALL in the proper order. Does anyone agree with this?
If you were healthy before, what would have caused fructose malabsorption, leaky gut and fungus? Did you eat something and suddenly get ill? Did you get some type of food poisoning or *stomach virus* but never got really better? Did you have to take Antibiotics and started having GI issues?
I would try to make sure you don't have a parasite because they can wreck the body and make it seem like something else is happening... Some protozoa like entamoeba histolytica can kill in some cases.
I do not know of any natural medicine / herb that is known to work against entamoeba histolytica. If you happen to have this or another similar hard to kill bug, the natural medicine route might not work.
If you happen to have a protozoa problem... After taking care of the protozoa your body will have the tendency of fixing the other GI problems & healing it self.
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This is a reply to # 1,924,616>One thing you must realize about so called doctors. they are agents for drug companies and will only treat and not cure anything like what you have.
I will also add that the natural health industry is also full of it. They are just as much after your $$ as the drug companies are. One has to use quite a bit of critical thinking to find the best route.
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This is a reply to # 1,924,343Do yourself a big favor and get the right stool testing done - finding the culprit is the first key in eradication. I have been around cz too long and read too many stories about self-diagnosis - I spun my wheels but not knowing the problem which in my case turned out to be a rare protozoa parasite that requires a special approach. Metametrix offers the best test done using PCR analysis - use panel #2105
If you happen to test for protozoa parasites, I have an outside forum at pptu.lefora.com - Re: Pulling out the big guns for my ... Michael B
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This is a reply to # 1,924,343Hey, here are some thoughts that popped up immediately in my mind:
First the need for you to liver flush, as improved bile flow will help with ANY and ALL of your possible ailments (and I think you have them all- parasites, candida, mercury, eradicated flora)
Your pancreas may also be blocked preventing adequate release of digestive enzymes. If you have a history of fast foods, fried foods, junk foods, etc, it is highly like your problems are caused by biliary obstruction.
Secondly, the possibility that you have toxins stored in your stomach that react with the foods that you eat and cause gas. Sometimes even foods that clean you out like fruits can react violently to these toxins and ferment/putrefy on the spot and release even more noxious byproducts. I highly recommend drinking Essiac tea, the stronger and more natural the better.
I also thought that it would be very helpful for you to introduce a neutral grain such as quinoa or millet into your diet for stability... to be eaten alone and well chewed.
At this point you cannot eat much but I will say it right here that loads of meat regardless of the quality will contribute to liver stones and unless you have a history of successful Liver Flushing and know how your liver actually responds to animal cholesterol, it would be better to revert to less meat and more greens. It also sounds like the meat you are eating is putrefying therefore not digesting and just poisoning you. When I eliminated meat from my candida diet, the die off intensified 3 fold.
Of course be aware of food combining principles.
Try malic acid see if it flushes some sludge out.
Best wishes- Re: Pulling out the big guns for my ... jaetown
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This is a reply to # 1,924,745Hmmm, so you eliminated meat too, and seemed to benefit.
I've been reading more in depth on flushing and food combining from that Healing with Whole Foods book, which is largely vegan/vegetarian in nature. While it doesn't try to prove that meats or animal products are bad for us, their consumption should be in extremely small portions and only combined with non-starchy vegetables.
I am leaning this direction when I come off my Absorb Plus fast. I want to be able to eat ANY and ALL vegetables again, with good conscience, without fearing a flare up.
Thanks for the tip on malic acid --- I looked that up on a couple different sites, wisegeek finally convinced me I'll order some. Also checking into the Essiac tea.
I've been a bit of a snarky beast lately after giving up coffee, I treated myself to several expensive bottles of raw Kombucha that contain either ginger or spirulina/chlorella/algae mixes with the probiotic strains (I think it brags the coagulus stuff, a few billion, sorry bad spelling).
Just increased the dosage of ParaGONE to full amount (on day 5 currently) and I notice crazy rumblings in my stomach and bowel action (either needing to poop or pass gas) shortly after taking it.
Lots more undigested nuts passed last night. I threw the rest away.- Re: Pulling out the big guns for my ... Michael B
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This is a reply to # 1,924,867You might also want to look into trying a CoQ10 megadose- typically 3000 mg dose done once via Hulda Clark s protocol, or 4000 mg done consecutively for 4 days. It has killed parasites for some when all else failed.
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This is a reply to # 1,924,745I found Essiac Tea on VitaminShoppe (where I typically buy supplements). The ingredients are:
Vitamin A 110 IU
Vitamin C 1 Mg
Proprietary Blend 2 Gm
Other Ingredients:
Burdock Root, Sheep Sorrel, Slippery Elm, Indian Rhubarb Root.
Does that sound right to you. They want $26 for 1.5 oz of a powder form. There aren't a whole lot of herbs in there, while I know the Slippery Elm has a calming/soothing effect on the GI tract, I haven't heard of the other three. Maybe I ought to look up the ingredients separately and see if there's another, less expensive, tea; or if it's worth the $$ due to potency.
Malic acid was inexpensive enough and seems like a good "cleaner-outter" to add to my fresh lemon/cranberry/ACV/kombucha morning drink to assist with liver detox..- Re: Pulling out the big guns for my ... Michael B
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This is a reply to # 1,924,868Hrmm seems too expensive try checking http://www.bulk-essiac-tea.com/
they have extra herbs but I know at least their quality is good and you get more for less.
I definitely think you should include raw garlic into you parasite regimen.
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This is a reply to # 1,924,343You need MEAT, fermentation is what is happening where your bowels have slowed down and the food is sitting there fermenting... You have to clean your colon...cleanse it well...use YUCCA root to implant some bacteria in there... Take MILK THISTLE AND DANDELION root to get your liver to aid in the killing off of candida.
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