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Just left the doctors and he recommended that I get some electrolytes into me. Said they were really low. He suggested - he wrote a prescription for some thing like Gatorade.
I plan to just re-hydrate with water initially and then diluted fresh coconut water. A friend is bring me a gallon today and 3 gallons tomorrow. Along with 3 pounds of baby coconut jelly - yum. I plan to rehydrate until Saturday and if my electrolytes are back to normal I will go on to my Water Fast on Sunday.
This DF was one of the easiest and hardest things I have ever done. Easiest because I had a lot of energy and got a lot done around the house. I cleaned, did laundry - although the stuff I was was not even dirty to begin with - lol, exercised - walks, trampolining and yoga, read, meditated and just had a great productive time. Hardest because even though I was not thirsty I was plagued by water cravings. Probably exacerbated because I had no skin contact in any way with water. Lack of sleep - the worse part of all. Also makes it hard to leave the house and be around others because I was super self conscious about not brushing my teeth ( although my breath never smelled bad in the slightese or bathing ( strong bo under the arms and then I started smelling like oranges the last few days), etc.
I had some mild aches but no pain. Peed quite a bit - about 3/4 of what I would in my regular non fasting life.
What made things easier - the Green Tara and White Tara mantras. Look them up on youtube - they are great for taking your mind of the slowness of time and believe me - around day 4 time starts to crawl. I mean molasses in winter pace. Going for walks in the late pm or early am when it is cool. Skin brushing. Having things to do like lots of books and crossword puzzles etc. Focusing on reasons for doing this and goals you want to reach.
Hardest Days - probably day 7. On day 7 I wanted to quit so bad. My every thought was water, water, water.
Day 9 was hard too - not because water thoughts were there because by then they had almost disappeared. No Day 9 was bad because at 1 point I found myself at the fridge with a open bottle of water in my had about to take a sip. I had no idea how I even got there. I do not recall walking to the kitchen. Fortunately I had not tipped the bottle yet so no harm.
I am hoping that this plus my first DF have worked to resolve my thyroid cyst. It has reduced somewhat. I hope it is gone totally after this one.
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This is a reply to # 1,923,188Wow congrats on the long dry fast! How many dry fasts have you done before this one?
You can get rehydration sachets from large supermarkets, well ASDA anyway. I always keep a packet at home as well as a carton of coconut water.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,923,272This is my second one. The first was was 7 days but I consider it 5.5 because I had a very high fever and ending up doing a sitz bath. That one was very easy because I was in the middle of a Water Fast and hating water so it was not biggie to abstain totally.
What is a rehydration sachet? I have access to a bunch of coconuts and also some non pasteurized coconut water - lucky - so I decided that was the best way.
Have you rehydrated with coconut water before?
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This is a reply to # 1,923,188
Great job there himitsuhime and interesting post. I did 10 days also... only it was not all at once ;)... actually it was 5+5 about a month apart. Unlike me, you are a natural born dry faster!... though i expect eventually to be able to reach 10 days myself. In the meantime, i am still getting too thirsty and dehydrated. Like yours, my peeing too was quite regular... like 3 or 4 times per day and probably about a liter per day.
Great story about standing at the frige on day 9 with a bottle of water in your hand and not knowing how you got there! I was jumping out of my skin from 3.7 days to 3.9, but then the intense thirst subsided a bit and i was able to reach 5 days without seeing that level of discomfort again until reaching almost the very end.
So at exactly 5 days i drank 3 cups of distilled water within about 10 minutes... which was amazing might i add? Then to my surprise after only about 10 more minutes my appetite awakened with a fierce vengeance so i immediately enjoyed some fresh orange juice foiling my plan to await morning for this next delightful level of re-feeding.
I hope soon that your thyroidal cyst disappears completely. Not to say this is the same, but i had some kind of a stubborn pea sized growth on my shoulder dry up from the inside during a dry fast a few months back and fall off a few days later.Also you might want to look into and consider the possiblity of adding some celery juice to your electrolyte boosting regimen. It has a great reputation :).
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This is a reply to # 1,923,411Thanks Mighty. I will give the Celery a shot. I rehydrated last night and it was great. I could only manage about 2 cups of water over the 2 hours before I fell asleep - lol. Then I have managed about 8 ozs of fresh coconut water and 12oz of water so far today. I think my stomach shrunk a lot because I get full fast.
My hunger did not return after the DF. It is usual for hunger to return?- Re: 10 day DF done ends in a couple ... Mighty.Sun.Tzu
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This is a reply to # 1,923,614I am not much of a water drinker either... In my past several fasts i have been going from dry to juice with a very small water-only window in between. It is said that juice more effectively re-hydrates us as well and that celery juice in particular re-hydrates us 4x more effectively than water. I believe i have read that coconut water is quite excellent for this as well.
I would say that the return of appetite upon drinking water is not the golden rule for people, but it has happened with me for sure in breaking my past 4 or more dry fasts. Perhaps for me it was the knowledge that eating had become an option, and if i knew i was intending to go much longer with water-only it would have been avoided or i would otherwise have made it through the storm one way or another before experiencing calm and being able to coast. I really did want to have water-only for at least a half day though which seems to diminish the strength of this theory, but even this was not a hardened rule i had set within myself. So my desire to eat became staggering but to be clear it was not genuine hunger.
Until breaking the dry fast though, after the first 2.5 days i had not a thought for food, only water! The first 2.5 days i fought intermittent appetite and the last 2.5 days i fought varying degrees of thirst, so i was never quite at a place where i was experiencing ease and comfort. I felt fairly good and strong the entire time though which is an encouraging sign that things are continuing to get better and better.
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This is a reply to # 1,923,713himitsuhime, you said you had no bad breath during your 10-day DF? What might be the reason? Does not bad breath accompany fasting usually?
Another question: I read that dehydration might cause strokes. I also read that 1/3 of people have strokes which they are not even aware of, but their intelligence still declines with each stroke. This concern keeps me away from attempting longer DF. I would like to know your thoughts on this concern. Other DF experts, do offer your thoughts on this concern please. Thanks.- Re: 10 day DF done ends in a couple ... himitsuhime
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This is a reply to # 1,923,740>>you said you had no bad breath during your 10-day DF? What might be the reason? Does not bad breath accompany fasting usually?<<
I have never had bad breath while fasting but during a Water Fast you brush your teeth like one normally would. During the DF I did not brush my teeth nor rinse my moth for 10 days so of course daily personal care is a big concern. I had an appointment on one day and dithered so long to go. I just kept asking my mother if she was sure my breath did not smell and if I was giving off Body Odor - lol.
>>Another question: I read that dehydration might cause strokes. I also read that 1/3 of people have strokes which they are not even aware of, but their intelligence still declines with each stroke. This concern keeps me away from attempting longer DF. I would like to know your thoughts on this concern. Other DF experts, do offer your thoughts on this concern please. Thanks.<<
I think you should look up some of the signs of dehydration as well as learn to know your body well. In 2010 or so I was consuming around 1 gal of water per day yet my doctor kept telling me I was dehydrated and to drink more. I did a juice fast in Jan 2011 and after that I was able to drink less water and be more hydrated than I was drinking a ton of water. I think the cleansing that happened with the juicing enabled my body to absorb the water better. That is only based on my opinion. Also, after my recent Water Fast where I was only getting about 2-3 ounces of water per day my tests all showed me as well hydrated.
On the DF - both the one I did in the middle of my WF and this one saw me with a lot of energy and only a little dizziness on one occasion when I overdid some cleaning.
I think as long as you take some precautions you should be fine. Know your body and ask yourself these questions - how often do you pee normally? What color is your pee normally? How much fresh juicy fruit do you consume? How much refined salt do you normally consume? How much overly strenuous activity will you be doing? etc.
If you would like to try DF then consider doing a 36-48 hour one on the weekend. During that time take some status checks of your body and self to see how you are doing. Stay put of the sun and make sure indoors temperature are good and mild. The body has an incredible amount of water in it. As long as you do not go overboard you should be able to do a short-term DF with no problems providing your health allows.
I would not worry much about strokes unless you are prone to strokes or have medical conditions where strokes are a possibility. I have Lupus which has migrated to my brain - yet I suffered no ill effects. I had a brainscan via MRI this yesterday afternoon and preliminary results showed no ill effects.
Check out this link - especially 1.3.3 which list conditions where DF would be contraindicated http://www.fastingconnection.com/dry-fast/cascade-dry-fasting
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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This is a reply to # 1,923,833himitsuhime, Thank you for taking time to answer me. Yes, I already read all the DF posts in FastingConnection. I also read the Fast Doctor's caution against DF in that forum. I actually did several 2-day DR. It is longer DF that I have concern about.
I have two more questions:
(1) What is your experiece regarding your (a)healing and (b)fat loss and (c)skin tone in DF as compared with water fast?
(2) I have accelerated pulse/heart beats while doing water fast, even more so while doing DF. Do you expereince this too? Once while on DAY 2 of DF I had pulse rate 104. That kind of scared me. While I am not fasting, my pulse rate is under 70.
Thanks again for help.
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This is a reply to # 1,924,062No problem Karen. Happy to answer anything I can.
(1) What is your experiece regarding your (a)healing and (b)fat loss and (c)skin tone in DF as compared with water fast?
In terms of healing I really cannot say yet. The things I want to heal are long term and chronic such as Lupus, a large thyroid cyst that the want to remove my thyroid for, bi-polar Depression and several other Lupus related issues such as Rheumatoid Arthritis etc.
For the thyroid cyst, I see an improvement as it no longer protudes the way it did before. I had concluded that it was my imgination but I had a meeting with my general doctor this morning about my tests and he agrees that it feels, and certainly looks, smaller. The RA is certainly a lot better than but a long term juice diet helps that as well so...
I did not do the DF for fat loss and I do not believe it would be good for that. I do not think much true fat can be lost in the 10-14 days I would be able to maintain a DF. For fat loss I would day a juicing diet would be preferable. I did lose 18 lbs in the 10 days and 5 came back after rehydration. In the Water Fast I lost 40 pounds in 40 days and 15 came back after refeed. Also, for me - on a Water Fast after about 3-4 days I get into heavy (140) ketosis. On the DF the ketosis stick never registered above 80.
For skin tone - since I was so weak during the Water Fast I spent about 90% of the time on bed so I did have some rather loose skin. During the refeed I noticed that it tightened considerably. I did make sure to focus on juicy fruits and such that are reputed to help with skin tone.
On the DF I was able to do some yoga and trampolining. And I also kept up the skin brushing I normally do. This time around - no sags other than the normal time induced ones - lol. I am hoping to have more energy on this WF and be able to keep up with the yoga and some other exercises to keep my body toned. I did get a lot of compliments since the DF about how clear and beautiful my skin is even though I am still sloughing off the 10 days worth of dead skin cells.
(2) I have accelerated pulse/heart beats while doing water fast, even more so while doing DF. Do you expereince this too? Once while on DAY 2 of DF I had pulse rate 104. That kind of scared me. While I am not fasting, my pulse rate is under 70.
Not sure what my usual resting pulse rate is as prior to fasting I only took it at the doctor or the gym. On the water fast I was weak and fainty. I just could not move around much and my pulse would easily hit 110 in a few seconds. On the DF the first 2 days I was a little tired and a little off. After that I had no problems with dizziness except for one day when I spent too long out doing some chores. I have more energy on a DF.
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This is a reply to # 1,924,169himitsuhime, many thanks for replying.
"I did lose 18 lbs in the 10 days and 5 came back after rehydration. In the Water Fast I lost 40 pounds in 40 days and 15 came back after refeed."
It does appear that you lost more weight/fat in your DF than in your water fast, if we take into account the number of days?
"Also, for me - on a Water Fast after about 3-4 days I get into heavy (140) ketosis. On the DF the ketosis stick never registered above 80."
That is curious indeed. I am sure you read the DF posts in FastingConnection. Almost every DF faster there claimed that more fat was mobilized while they did DF since the body needed to create water from fat.
You said you had good energy during your 10-day DF but were tired in your water fast. Could it be your body was very good at using ketones during your DF (so you had good energy) and thus fewer ketones were expelled through urine?
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This is a reply to # 1,924,523I do not think that I lost more fat in the DF vs the WF. After the DF I gained 5 pounds just drinking fluids whereas in the WF the weight I regained was a combination of rehydration and refeeding.
I think in WF I actually burned more fat based on ketosis scores. I remember that in my first DF I was in heavy ketosis on the WF when I began the DF and my body after a day or two reverted to moderate ketosis - probably as a protective measure.
Also, I do not think the body burns fat to get water during the DF because the DF is not long enough. The body has a lot of cellular and inter-cellular water that it uses first. One would have to do a really long DF to get to the stage where the body conserves it excretions and that stage is probably too dangerous since it would mean no urine eliminations.
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This is a reply to # 1,923,188Good post. Thank you. I learned while fasting to say to myself, 'all my nutrients are in and around me everywhere from every divine and cosmic source.' And then I feel all the nutrients perfectly in balance in my mind and body. This thought can be called a meditation, or a mantra, it is more like a reprogram in my thought.
Understanding that the body makes its own b12 and folic acid and has and retains its own b12, folic acid in the bile and recyles it helps if ones needs material mechanical verification.The body is a self contained system, I do not need material explanation to know spirit base anymore. Still it is nice to understand some material mechanics. Every thought has an impact on homeostasis. Imo, a good thought is divine. A bad thought is error.
http://www.answers.com/topic/bile
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explains how the body makes and recycles its own b12 and folic acid.
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