Contrary to claims, it is entirely possible for Gallstones larger than 8mm to pass through the common bile duct. In fact, there is plenty of anecdotal evidence proving that Gallstones greatly exceeding this purported "maximum" can and do pass through the common bile duct.

Here are two such case histories:

Cfsguy's flushes 1-3


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"I'm a medical doctor and I had an experience that defies this kind of explanation. I I was sick for many years and growing sicker all the time. I was losing weight and could hardly hold my head up. I was literally dying.

I had a workup that included an ultrasound of the gallbladder, but not an MRI of the abdomen. The tests were all normal. I had tried two Liver Flushes without results.

I'm the kind of person that perseveres and just keeps trying things. Several months later, I did a third liver flush, this time using 12 ounces of oil and a more elaborate preparation. Nothing happened for the first two or three days.

Then I got some large hard stones, the largest being 2 1/4 inches long, and was egg shaped. The combined volume of the stones was about the size of three fists, the size of my gallbladder.

The stones had a very peculiar odor, one that I had never smelled before. It was very strong. The odor and the appearance of the stones pointed to the conclusion that they had been inside of me for a very long time.

They did not float, and rather, sank to the bottom. On the following day I got some material that was very different. It was mostly yellow in color, and floated, and there were objects in it that were about the size of lentils although they varied quite a bit, were light gray in color, almost white, and could be easily squashed between the fingers. Again this material had a very strong peculiar foul odor of its own, not at all like fecal material. There was lumps of matter mixed in with the yellow liquid. The matter had different colors, and the total volume was from a cup to a cup and a half.

This continued to happen every night. Occasionally I would find a dead parasite in the material- Part of a dead worm three or 4 inches long. As it continued to happen, I set up a small photographic studio in my bathroom.

When I would have a movement the fecal material came first and then I could tell when the peculiar matter was coming because I could smell it. Some of the particulate matter was stringy and as long as 12 inches. It was as if I had removed a blockage, and now the material could be released.

This continued over a five-month period, and at the end the amount expelled gradually decreased until finally there was no more. I estimate that the total volume of material over the five-month period was approximately 5 gallons.

That's larger than my entire abdominal cavity, and I have no explanation as to how I could hold that much. Perhaps it became hydrated somehow and that resulted in the expansion.

In any event my abdomen had accumulated an enormous amount of garbage. Now, I'm a board certified psychiatrist, and if a patient had come to me with that kind of story, I might have suspected that they were psychotic.


On the other hand, I did try to give my patients the benefit of the doubt. When the experience was over, I felt no better. Over the following year, my health gradually improved. During the first six months after the experience, there was little difference, but in the succeeding months I grew stronger.

I have gained 20 pounds, and back to my normal weight. I still have chronic fatigue syndrome, but I can think, and I feel much younger.

Before the experience I felt like I was in my 90s. I sent the photographs in and added them to the curezone library.

cfsguy"



Telmans flushes 1-3

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"I am a 52year old male living in Kent, England.

I have violent and chronic pains in the “V” of my rib cage and one day in May 2005 I collapsed in agony after which I remained drain, tired and not very well at all. I had suffered like this a couple of times in the past but my doctor and hospital we unable to diagnose a problem. I was convinced that it was caused by my gall bladder so I set about researching the condition on the internet, whence I came across the curezone.com site.

First Flush

Having carefully read through the information I was determined to carry out a flush because I was so frightened of the pain returning. I started my first flush on 2nd June 2005. I did exactly as it said in the Dr Hulda Clark protocol except that everything was 1hr later, I used the juice from three lemons with which I sipped alternately the olive oil and I did not take any ornithine capsules. I had no problems drinking any of the potions and in fact quite enjoyed the olive oil and lemon juice. When I was laying flat on my back in bed I could sense and almost feel the movement of something in the gall bladder area. I also had a few mild cramps at this time and also later in the night.

I had to get out of bed at 3.30 am with diarrhoea, which I assume was a reaction to the Epsom Salts . The next day I had to visit the toilet about every 30 minutes to start with from about 9.00am trailing of to 2hrs until I stopped at 9.00 pm. My waste was all liquid and green stones with the constancy of old putty. The toilet bowl looked as if someone had poured a tin of vegetable soup in it. I didn’t collect or photograph the stones but on a general count was as follows:

1 stone bigger than 2cm
20 stones bigger than 1cm
40 stones pea sized
Loads of gravel sized stones

My gall bladder felt quite tender, my stomach was slightly bloated and my anus was incredible sore but on the whole I felt that the whole operation was a great success. I my heart I felt that the job was not quite done and that I needed another flush. So as I don’t have to work at present I schedule this for Monday 6th June 2005, four days after the first flush.

Second Flush

I reduced the Epson Salt dose down to 1 desert spoon per dose to try and control the diarrhoea and I also gave my anus a good coating of Vaseline before I went to bed. Every thing else was the same. This time I slept though until 7.00am but I still had the diarrhoea and a multitude of visits to the toilet from 9.00am onwards. The Vaseline was a good idea as it stopped me getting sore.

The count on this day was as follows:

1 stone bigger than 2 cm
13 stones bigger than 1.5 cm
24 stones bigger than 1 cm
34 stones of pea sized
loads more gravel

When I thought it was all over I felt what I thought was wind travelling and gurgling through my intestines and when I finally needed to answer the call of nature at 8.00pm I discharged a 3.5 cm stone which was well on the way to becoming calcified. The next day I pasted another 12 stones all around 1 cm in size.

Third Flush

I carried out my third flush on 13 June 2005 and encouraged by the success I had so far and my ability to easily drink the potions I decided to give my liver a double hit. After drinking the olive oil and lemon juice and lying flat on my back for 30 minutes I had another dose of the olive oil and lemon juice and lay again for 30 minutes. I did suffer from indigestion in the night and still had the taste of olive oil in my mouth in the morning; however, the results were excellent as follows:

1 stone bigger than 3 cm
1 stone bigger than 2 cm
9 stones bigger than 1 cm
35 stones pea sized
Loads of sludge

The consistency of the stones was very different than the green squashy stones that I expelled on the first two occasions. On the previous flush the stones were starting to get hard or having a hard crust but the stones this time were grey and the consistency of hard cheese. The large stone which was 3 cm by 1 cm appeared as if it had been squashed in a tube like a wax earplug and the sludge was disgusting grey fowl smelling stuff. I assume that these stones probably come from my liver rather than gall bladder but I don’t know.

My first solid motion on the following day at 11.30 am was normal except that it was 25% full, evenly distributed of the gritty sludge. So i guess my liver is flushing on its own now that a major blockage has been removed."


Highlights:

"Then I got some large hard stones, the largest being 2 1/4 inches long, and was egg shaped"

"I discharged a 3.5 cm stone which was well on the way to becoming calcified"

Both case histories have a strong element of extreme and chronic blockage being remedied after the release of large, hard stones. Some claim the common bile duct is incapable of expanding beyond 8mm yet clearly it is possible.

For those who claim the common bile duct cannot expand beyond 8mm, let me ask you: were you born? If so, was your mother's vaginal wall always the diameter of your head?