Unbelievable! It is good that you keep going.

I met with Andreas and he told me as long as I took prescription or over the counter drugs I probably needed to keep flushing. After 10 months of stopping the drugs I got clean for the 3 times. This lasted for awhile but now at my last flush (47)I had green stones again. I feel this is because, though my lifestyle has improved according to his suggestions, I am not Andreas and do not live a completely clean life. I still will drink wine and have some SAD food though not daily.
With all this I am symptom free from gallbladder pain, allergies, muscle aches and brain fog. And after 15 years on anti-depressants and for 40 years on dexedrine (amphitimine)for energy I can do without all the prescription drugs.
A year ago I decided that I needed a personal trainer so I will excercise 2x a week.
That was a big decision because I feel I should be diciplined enough to work out on my own, but now I am 70 it is important to me to be still active. Though daily I use the chi-machine and do the sun salute (Ayurveda) in the morning.
I also just read http://owen.curezone.com he is in excellent health. I am not into supplements but I did add a brazil nut a day for the selenium, enzymes when I eat the wrong food and green max powder for general health and improving the pH.

I agree very much with what you said. We must remember that Andreas in his
Amazing Liver Cleanse book says that he never had immunizations and I doubt
he ever took medications in his life. I also have done very many flushes and
have been at it 2 1/2 years. I had all the metal taken out of my mouth. I
have not touched any SAD diet for 2 1/2 years. I eat 90 % organic diet, no
gluten, no processed food, no simple carbohydrates. But...I was fully immunized,
including Hepatitis B, worked as an R.N. 30 years in a hospital around chemo,
Antibiotics , many toxins, parasites, etc. I also took Estrogen, which all who
have read Andreas's books know that Estrogen causes gallstones. I also took
my share of Tylenol, Ibuprofen and Antibiotics until I quit all medications 2 1/2
years ago. I have made tremendous progress in those 2 1/2 years--cured severe
sciatic pain from herniated disc, cured burning breast pain, made tremendous
progress with FROZEN SHOULDER, cured hot sweats and much more. So people should
NOT assume we are doing something wrong if it takes TIME to get well. We live
in a toxic world and many of have been around a while accumulating toxins. So
Slider, thanks for sharing your experience! Mine is similar!!

What you have written is very interesting and although I would like to graduate and be stone free the nature of the flush would indicate that there is unpredictability about the results. I am assuming it will take a long time to get last few stones out but it is a positive step that they are still being expelled.

I certainly agree that theory can be very different from the practice but there is a wide range of people visiting the forum and deciding to flush for a multitude of reasons. I don't have a problem with Andreas because he is stating the norm and many people do flush clean much more quickly than 12 flushes. As Hanna points out flushing isn't the only factor that influences the future and it is also crucial to make some life changes, like taking regular exercise, eating better and stop taking drugs. Before I started flushing my muscles were so painful that it was very difficult for me to exercise and I always got severe pain on my right side. Flushing has allowed me to exercise properly and for the first time in countless years I can run. I threw out all my medicines for Fibromyalgia including antidepressants and painkillers some time ago. As a family we have improved our diets and I grow a lot of what we eat.

However, we are only discussing the interesting distraction of counting stones and the real tangible evidence comes from the way we feel. My original aim was to flush in order to eradicate excruciating gallbladder pain, and this has been achieved. I have also had the reward of getting a significant reduction in my Fibromyalgia symptoms, and end to strange allergies and sensitivities, no longing fearing certain foods, an ability to exercise vigorously, disappearance of moles and a confident positive outlook on life.

It has given me something to believe in and way forward when conventional medicines failed. Although I have tried other remedies in the past Liver Flushing is the only "cure" to be beneficial.

The forum is my therapy group and has introduced to a host of others with similar conditions. I like to share my thoughts with the forum and in return I get much needed support and encouragement.

I am very interested in your observation that about every 5th flush is more productive because I have also noticed this phenomenon. From my own personal limited data it appears that a more productive flush is achieved on approximately a 60 day cycle. The skill is to flush in unison with this cycle if you believe in this.

Telman

What predicts that one will be flushing for a long time-ie how many stones on the first flush? Can you give some basic guidelines for your hypothesis? Thanks!

When you wrote you're flushing very close together and getting about the same results as when waiting 2-3 weeks, if I read your comments correctly, what amount of time in between flushes are you successfully using? Also, how much oil are you using?

Hi

I have heard that Liver Flushes should be done at least a month apart to let the liver regenerate after each one, maybe the results would be better if you do them further apart ?

Also do you follow up with a colonic irragation, as this helps more toxins and stones be released !

I wish you luck x