Jonathan You are a little misguided. I did reply to another of your post, but it is apparent that the same prior message may apply here as well.
Johnathan, easy now. Chlorine dioxide is not chlorine. The difference being that chlorine reacts with ammonia and organic debris which produces THM'S and various other nasty chemicals as by-products of that reaction.
Chlorine Dioxide does not react with ammonia, nor does it produce hazardous end chemicals ether.
I do believe that you might wish to visit this link and update your data base:
As far as your patient you speak of it may be of benefit to test them for citric acid intolerance, as this is most likely the case.
Please Google .....Symptoms of citric acid allergy.
also just for the record the USDA and the FDA both allow a residual of 3ppm of chlorine dioxide in water and food. 1ppm of chlorine dioxide has been proven to kill HIV in 5 minutes.
The issue may be the acid of Citric.
It has always been my understanding that putting others cash cows at risk will cause a lot of here say to be thrown around. Has anyone EVER found an autopsy report that stated the cause of death was chlorine toxicity? What I am saying is that it only takes a few bad cases to ruin the whole medicinal aspect of it. Whether it works or not I do not know. I am simply offering conjecture from radical bloggers that throw so much fear in to the mix I can assume that they are starting, or continuing an exaggeration.
Chlorine is easily absorbed through the skin. Every time you shower drink tap water (4ppm max)or go swimming in the over chlorinated pool you are taking in many times more chlorine than you would taking 2 drops of mms.
I have some MSDS's I want you to see. You guys can say whatever you want about these, but they come from Oxford University, so you'll probably sound stupid if you argue with them.
Keep this in mind each drop of MMS @ 28% is about 13mg.
http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/SO/sodium_hypochlorite.html
Toxicity data: Sodium Hypochlorite
(The meaning of any abbreviations which appear in this section is given here.)
ORL-MUS LD50 5800 mg kg-1 Oral Mouse lethal dose of 50%
That would mean if the mouse weighed as much as a human 180 lbs it would have to eat about 475 grams for it to be 50% lethal. Thats about 36,500 drops of MMS.
ORL-WMN TDLO 1000 mg kg-1 Oral Woman lowest published lethal dose so if she weighs 50 kilos and she died from less than 50 grams she would be the new TDLO.
IVN-MAN TDLO 45 mg kg-1 Intravenous Man lowest published lethal dose so he would have to have @75 kilos 3375mg just over 3 grams put into his vein to be equal to lowest published lethal dose.
http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/SO/sodium_chlorite.html
Toxicity data: sodium chlorite
ORL-RAT LD50 165 mg kg-1 Oral Rat Lethal dose of 50%
75kg rat would have to ingest almost 12.5 grams to have a 50% chance of dying.
IHL-RAT LC50 230 mg/m3/4h. Inhaled Rat Lethal dose of 50%
230mg per cubic meter over 4 hours.
http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/CA/calcium_hypochlorite.html
Toxicity data: Calcium hypochlorite
ORL-RAT LD50 850 mg kg-1 You guys seeing a pattern yet?
http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927129
Toxicity data:cesium chloride
ORL-RAT LD50 2600 mg kg-1
http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/SO/sodium_chloride.html
Toxicity data: sodium chloride (table salt)
ORL-RAT LD50 3000 mg kg-1
ORL-MAN LDLO 1000 mg kg-1
ORL-MUS LD50 4000 mg kg-1
IPR-MUS LD50 2602 mg kg-1
ICV-MUS LD50 131 mg kg-1
SKN-RBT LD50 > 10000 mg kg-1
Table salt is lethal at higher doses than Sodium Hypochlorite!!!
Absorption of chloride from the diet is considered to be essentially complete. Balance studies in young men have shown that 92% of the ingested chloride is excreted in the urine.(37)
The amount of chloride in the intestinal contents declines as the contents move along the gastrointestinal tract. Typically, 540 mg of chloride enter the duodenum each day.(38) Chloride is absorbed in the jejunum by "solvent drag" and in the ileum and colon by active chloride transport coupled to bicarbonate secretion.(38,39) Both of these processes are linked to sodium-based co-transport mechanisms that create the necessary osmotic and electrochemical gradients.
It has been estimated that the human body contains 0.15% chloride,(40) or 105 g/70 kg bw (so if you take 130mg mms or 10 drops, it is less than 1/800 of what occurs naturally in your body). Most of this chloride is extracellular, as shown by serum levels of 98 to 106 meq/L, compared with the approximate 1 meq/L for tissue cells.(41) Stomach secretions are high in chloride, with concentrations between 45 and 155 meq/L in gastric residues. All body chloride is considered to belong to an exchangeable pool.(42)
Body chloride concentrations are regulated by excretions, primarily via the kidneys. Both chloride and sodium are regulated by aldosterone.(43) The urinary excretion of chloride for adults is about 4.4 g/d, with a range of 2.2 to 13 g/d; the amount excreted is closely related to the amount of salt in the diet. Chloride loss in the faeces is low, with 14 to 110 mg excreted daily by this route. (So you will poop more than you take in?) Significant additional daily losses of chloride occur in perspiration.(37)
Above Article taken from: http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/pubs/water-eau/chloride-chlorure/index-eng.php
When you ingest salt, the sodium and the chlorine ions in sodium chloride separate from each other, making the sodium available for your body to use. (and leaves behind the chlorine ions which you then pass)
Above Article taken from: http://chemistry.about.com/od/moleculescompounds/a/Sodium-Versus-Salt.htm
Chloride is the buffer that keps sodium from spontaneously combusting when it hits water!
What I am saying is that unless you took the lethal dose all at once you are not going to die. This is a lot of he said she said. I heard that a friend of a friend who works at Sloan-Kettering, well his cousins brother in laws sister died from that stuff. You would throw up the majority of it anyway. No wonder Jim Humble is so defensive.
So, MMS is an chlorinated oxidative poison" IF you take extreme doses but you are more likely to OD from Morphine at the same dose than any of this stuff.
Try it or don't but your not going to die from it unless you are trying to commit suicide.
Now that's not to say there will be no side effects, both long term and short term. You would be putting a lot of oxidative stress on your body and probably weaken you immune system. I would think that using it when you r immune system cannot handle something is great. After that I would stay on some good antioxidants for a week or two. Specifically Taurine and calcium ascorbate.
I knew nothing about any of this stuff until today but I will tell you I am going to buy some.
PS If you feel the need to insult my grammar to expose my ignorance, know it only makes you look that much worse. I wasn't going to spend half an hour typing this anyway.
Just a couple of things. Obviously anything can be harmful at the right concentrations so the whole harmful thing is rediculous. Do you use fluorinated toothpast and water? If you do then your probably not that concerned with what an MSDS has to say about harmful. Just because it doesn't list safe concentration levels doesn't mean a little will kill you or even harm you. Most of the things you put in your hair or spray in your house say the EXACT SAME THING. If it is so bad why is it allowed to be used for water purification???????? Lysol kills pathogens but it isn't listed to use for water purification, yet people are not only permitted to spray it in their house but are encouraged.
I do agree with not taking it for extended periods of time. However if your going to say your argument is that it says its harmful without showing safe and unsafe blood levels then your rationality is ridiculous. Find ay document that states <1mcg/Dl is an unsafe concentration in the body. Can't find it? Unless you live in a cabin and live off of the land without any outside chemicals your argument is moot. There are always safe levels of concentration. Also if you are going to make statements like "it has a 40 hour half life in the body", can you at least post a link?
Just for the sake of argument, here is the MSDS for sodium fluoride. The same substance added to toothpaste, and municipal water systems.
http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/SO/sodium_fluoride.html
Very toxic by ingestion, inhalation and skin contact. 4g may be fatal. May cause burns. Severe eye irritant. Chronic exposure may cause lung damage. TLV 2.5 mg/m3 (as F).
Toxicity data
ORL-RAT LD50 80 mg kg-1
IPR-RAT LD50 2 mg kg-1
ORL-WMN LDLO 90 mg kg-1
ORL-HMN LDLO 71 mg kg-1
ORL-RBT LD50 200 mg kg-1
Wow, thats really toxic!!!
I suppose you use fluoride free toothpaste, have a fluoride free water system, and don't take prescription drugs because of the fluoride fillers, because the MSDS said VERY TOXIC. Considerably more toxic than any previously listed chemicals. But I'm sure with your astute knowledge of organic chemistry, anatomy, and endocronology, you would know better than to go near anything bad for you.
Oh, and be sure to provide links to reputable information when you make statements about half life and concentrations.
Just for good measure here is a MSDS for Calcium Fluoride.
http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/CA/calcium_fluoride.html
Toxicity data
(The meaning of any toxicological abbreviations which appear in this section is given here.)
ORL-RAT LD50 4250 mg kg-1
IPR-RAT LD50 > 1500 mg kg-1
IPR-MUS LD50 2638 mg kg-1
So why aren't we using this instead? It's 50 times less toxic than sodium fluoride. Oh ya, because its cheap! Sodium floride comes from aluminum manufacturing, it is nothing but a by product. The government claims that it is good for your teeth but screw the rest of your body, we're not paying for calcium fluoride, its a bit of a double negative. Not to mention a lot of osteopaths and neurologists would be out of work if they switched. So it all comes down to money, not whats good or bad for us. This is probably why MMS has such a bad wrap.
Now make a solid argument about why sodium fluoide is safer than MMS, because if you cant you are only proving my point.
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/phs/phs.asp?id=210&tid=38
After entering your body, about half of the fluoride leaves the body quickly in urine, usually within 24 hours unless large amounts (20 mg or more, which is the amount in 20 or more liters of optimally fluoridated water) are ingested. Most of the fluoride ion that stays in your body is stored in your bones and teeth.
Also the body adjusts to what you put in it. Thats why alchoholics can drink so much it would kill a normal person.
The point I am trying to make is not that fluoride is worse its that we use it every day, and we use it and are still here. Considering it's 50 times more toxic than MSM, I would be hard pressed to believe MSM is even mildly toxic at 26mg/hr over 10hrs*10days. Chances are your 5 year old eats more fluoride in from his toothpaste than you will use in msm in a week.