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Tx again everyone. Here's a few more new questions. Thought I'd re-post this question in case it got lost down the bottom of page as I'M not sure how posting works.
Vaccines:
I have had to take some serious vaccines for my overseas trip to the tropics, so have delayed taking iodine. But i have to take another two sessions of shots in the next couple of weeks. So question, is it unsafe to start Iodine during vaccine period? apparently after completion of vaccines i have to wait 3 more weeks for them to take effect, which could mean i won't have time to try Iodine before i head overseas.
RT3:
And is being on T3 thyroid meds for reverse T3 a bad idea?(I have slightly elevated RT3 levels). I haven't taken it but not sure if Iodine will fix Rt3 problem also.
Hydrocortisone:
And I'm on 15mg HC and trying to wean off, so wondering, will iodine clash or put added stress on adrenals which could delay weaning off process? As my adrenals are still quite weak and i might have even weaned off a bit fast so now might have to delay in weaning off anymore.
Or should i stay on 15mg HC, while i go on iodine or maybe even till i complete iodine therapy?
Or in fact should i hold off on starting iodine therapy till i make sure adrenals are stronger first?
I'm asking so i know whether i need to bring more HC with me overseas, to support adrenals while on iodine.
Cheers everyone!
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This is a reply to # 1,757,473Vaccines put a big stress on your body, I would definitely take Iodine asap + selenium and all the other companions to help the body handle the toxins in the shots.
Some chlorella or spirulina tablets wouldnt hurt either.
I cant or wont tell you what to do with your medications, this is something you will have to find out for yourself.
Maybe some others at the forum can answer this better.
My adrenals are much better after having been on Iodine & co for 3 years. I know others have an opinion that one needs to take the adrenals before the thyroid, but IMO they need to be taken care of simultanously.
Much of the Iodine protocol also supports the adrenals, as in my post below.
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Certainly agree with Ginagirl about supporting both thyroid and adrenals. Iodine will benefit both. If you try to force your body to do certain things, such as be off HC before going overseas, you could end up overseas in a crisis with no HC at hand. Don't presume you know how your body will respond to a new environment, and take with you whatever has helped you weather storms in the past.
It seems you may think of iodine as a therapy that you begin and then complete. This leads you to worry whether you should take it now, or take it then, or take it after something else. Don't worry. ALWAYS have iodine in your life. It's best use is not as a therapy, but as a supplement for your body, to be used forever and always. Immunizations will come and go, but iodine will always be there to support all body functions. Start now. Since you're worried, start low. Allow your body to adjust, then increase the iodine. Eventually you may find a working dose from 50 mg-100 mg, but some take more, and some take less.
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This is a reply to # 1,757,650But wouldn't taking Iodine render the vaccines useless (ie taking it during the three weeks that it takes for vaccine to do it's job in your body), as it is a viral injection i am taking after all?- Re: Vaccine effectiveness if taking ... Ginagirl
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This is a reply to # 1,757,974your body respond to a vaccine via its forreign virus /bacteria bound to a protein of some kind; your immune system detect it and react.
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This is a reply to # 1,758,112Tx Ginagirl! Might have question next on Nascent Vs Igulos. I probably shouldn't read too many previous posts, as it's beginning to do my head in!
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This is a reply to # 1,757,473If I were you, I would definitely be taking the RT3....that's something a bit out of the ordnaire' and typically is related to secondary or tertiary hypo.
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Ok so cool, just wanted to check that Iodine didn’t stress the adrenals, but instead helps support it. I was just a bit worried about the detoxing adding extra pressure on the already struggling adrenals. But think I get it, in which case, I shall commence thy treatment!
Whispering Wind, are you suggest going on the T3 meds is ok in the case of a RT3 issue? because it’s not an issue related to Iodine deficiency?
But wouldn't adding any thyroid hormone during Iodine supplementation hinder the thyroid doing it’s job? Especially if it is being supplemented with thyroid support eg Tyrosine, iodine, Selennium etc. Sorry, I just don't understand how iodine and thyroid meds work or don't work together yet.
Besides wouldn’t RT3 get cleared out anyway, once the adrenals and thyroid start kicking in?
Again tx so much everyone for your patience.
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Yes, when your thyroid and adrenals kick in, your rT3 will dissipate. But if your levels are too high, your thyroid hormones will have trouble reaching the cell receptors, because they'll be clogged with rT3. Temporary use of T3 can help clear rT3 and get you back on track. More on rT3 here:
http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/11/18/reverse-t3/
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This is a reply to # 1,758,109Tx for that just thinking. Mine are only slightly elevated, so maybe i'll let body do itself. As being on thyroid meds, is a nightmare when trying to wean off.
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How long are you off for?
I can't imagine the Iodine impacting the effectiveness of the vaccine.....I won't pretend I am an expert on that either but it doesn't make sense to me.
You should take a bunch of Iodine with you on this trip though, both for internal and external use.
you might see if it is possible to get any of the upcoming V's that are thimerosol free.....it is a mercury based preservative, you really don't want any of that in you.
Iodine has been shown to help mobilize heavy metals out of you, so it can be helpful for that, however when you get back you may want to get a hairtest to check for heavy metals and use Andy Cutler's counting rules to evaluate the test, just to be sure you haven't dosed yourself with these vaccines. Effective measures using chelating agents can be used if necessary to remove heavy metals.
Funny you should mention HC. I have been taking 15mg for years....7 years I think. I am just starting to wean myself off now after one year on Iodine...I tried a couple of times before and it didn't work. I am just into my second week and taking 10mg. Last week was fine at 12.5mg. I wouldn't necessarily be in a hurry to get off of it unless you really feel great and ready.
I know you are trying to do the supplement thing naturally but I am going to harp you again to get some good quality B-vitamins --complex and extra B2/3 and ascorbic acid
B vitamins and vitamin C are hugely important for the adrenals and for healing the possible Iodine transport issue. Please don't skimp on these important nutrients
Linus Pauling took about 10g of ascorbic acid a day and he lived until 93 and he was healthy and strong still..... but unfortunately he was hit by a bus.....
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Pauling died of prostate cancer on August 19, 1994, at 7:20 PM at home in Big Sur, California. He was 93 years old
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This is a reply to # 1,758,276ok tx guys for the Vaccine info. Onto it!
Ok think i need one more main question and then some basics about how to routine my day for starting on the iodine, before starting
I am confused what is the difference btwn Nascent and Lugols'. Which is one is gentler on body, especially for women, which one is better? I've read somewhere about there being the potassium in Lugol's that is specifically useful for women?
What are the benefits of each? and which one is better for what? Do you need to take all the supplementary vitamins for Nascent also??
Very confusing all this choices and a lot of it is in very technical explanation format, that i am completely useless at. Need a straight to the point, basic info on both choices.
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My vote for women is Lugol's or Iodoral. Breasts need more iodine than provided by Nascent or Magnascent, IMO.
For a comparison -- http://curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=13,281,2962&q=579
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Unfortunately, all explanations available on the comparison between Nascent and Lugols' are too technical for me to understand. I just need it in layman's terms at this stage so i can make decision which way to go. Nascent seems great for use in Malaria and Dengue infested countries, might get some as that's where I'm going!
Meanwhile, just need Iodine to help heal thyroid, cysts (ovary and nodules in thyroid), regulate hormones (cause they are such a mess!!!) and support the now very defunct weak, and dodgy adrenals.
Thought NAscent might have been less harsh on the stomach, therefore less strain on body and in return less stressful on the adrenals - i also have a very weak digestive system, that seems to pick on the adrenals when it is having a hard time!
Besides been very quick to work, Nascent also seems very expensive, especially if one is to take it long term. But might be a handy alternative for someone that might be on the road a bit.
In addition, I'm still not clear as to whether NAscent requires taking the same supplementary vitamins and amounts as Lugols - anyone? anyone? Buller? Buller? Buller? anyone? anyone know?
I've got some Lugols for now anyway.Might take both when i had for the tropics next month.
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This is a reply to # 1,758,946Laymen's terms: you need ioDINE(aka I2) for cysts, nodules, etc. Lugol's/iodoral contains the most Iodine per dose.
WOMEN need I2.
Lugol's is not always harsh on the stomach, in fact, the percentage of people reporting stomach issues with Lugol's here is very small.
As for your other Qs, perhaps a nascent user will pipe in.
I have seen more evidence of efficacy of lugol's/iodoral than any other form of iodine... - Re: Newbie again_NASCENT VS LUGOL's?... trapper/kcmo
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I know i'm going to regret this (because I'll get more confused).... but what is SSK! with magnets? is it like Nascent but not so expensive? and with iodine/potassium benefits of Lugols??...eeek ..I can just hear my thyroid induced foggry brain getting more foggy by the minute!
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I need to get rid of cysts, nodules in thyroid and maybe some malaria while in the tropics - i don't ask for much hey.- Re: Newbie again_NASCENT VS LUGOL's?... #117759
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This is a reply to # 1,759,488It's potassium Iodide AND Iodine with magnets on the bottle. It's good stuff.
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And the good stuff being that it does what Lugol's and Nascent do, but in one bottle?????
Do you prefer this SSKI plus the magnet stuff over Lugol's yourself and if so why? In what form are the magnets in this formula you speak of?
I suspect the magnets allow the iodide/iodine to behave on the body, like Nascent potions do - all i really know is that Nascent has something to do with magnets which makes it different or special to other Iodine formulas. More easily absorbed into the body or something...eeek.
And i read on the forum somewhere that SSK1 is Iodide not iodine, which the breasts needs. I have not been advised that I have an issue with my breasts yet, I had one lump appeared once but it is now long gone though they very slightly lumpy internally as I was informed, when an ultrasound done 5 years ago. My main problem areas are the THYROID (14 nodules and underactive), one of my ovaries (cyst), pituitary gland (cyst) and overall hormonal imbalance. And then of course the ADRENALS! - they're completely shot down and close to death - ok so i exaggerate a bit, they are very fatigued. Overall, i have always had an autoimmune problem.
I am willing to try it all. I have Lugol's so will give that a go. But need to take some more stash for overseas as i won't have access to Iodine supplies over there. And seeing that I'm going to a Malaria infested place I think i will take both. I'll be working in the area of HIV/AIDS and part of my role will be to research different treatment options available and new emerging ideas - as you might have gathered i won't be doing it from a scientific perspective as i am clueless in that area but I'll be counting on others for that recommendation. I'll be doing it from a policy advice level, so will be very curious to see how Iodine may be useful in any way. I'm actually excited overall in hearing more about iodine and it's role in treating immune problems, detoxing and nutrition - which seems to be the way alternative medicine is heading - and as usual, something most ancient cultures have been already been practicing for yonks.
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This is a reply to # 1,759,675It's SSKI (Saturated Solution of Potassium(K) Iodide) plus 2% Iodine.
The magnets are for the Iodine and get taped onto the bottle. //www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1272098#i
I've not had Lugol's, but I HAVE had its pill-form equivalent: Iodoral.
I am very happy with the SSKI 2% with magnets; I've even walked outside barefoot in the snow (for brief periods of time) since taking this stuff and still do not get cold.
Now, since you are going overseas, you may very well want a variety of stuff. I have read that the nascent iodines work very well with infections, especially diseases like malaria...so you may also wish to purchase some straight SSKI (which is clear, like water) and some nascent.
And of course you may also wish to get Lugol's...most of the early pioneers here swear by Lugol's and its history has an excellent track record.
Good doctors of yesteryear even had a phrase they used:
"If ye do not know the what or why, prescribe ye then the K and I." (or something very close to that)Advertisement
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