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As far as I can tell, ratings are no longer being given for good posts in the News forum. Is there any logical reason for this other than moderators not being on the job? I know that I have given a number of good alerts and have posted some of the best articles I have written and yet the only ratings I have seen in many weeks are ones which were posted in another forum as the primary forum.
I thought that the whole idea of the rating system, besides simply recognizing good efforts, was to call deserved extra attention to important information so that more might be able to benefit from it. To be educated instead of medicated in other words.
One unfortunate result is that in many instances no one is bothering to go to the trouble of giving a good message alert. Or a bad one either. I suppose that members must be thinking "why bother, since no one seems to be paying attention", and I can certainly understand why they would think that.
Here is an example of one downside:
One poster has spammed the news forum (and infertility forum as a cross-posted forum) no less than 5 times over the past two weeks:
http://www.curezone.com/forums/s.asp?f=762&c=0&ob=d&m=theCHR
Until I just gave bad alerts, not a single bad alert had been posted.
As a moderator of two forums myself, I am not aware of any instructions to suddenly become the Grinch when it comes to giving out good ratings or ignoring alerts. Neither are other moderators I know. In fact, one moderator contacted me and wondered why no one had given bad alerts on the messages in the above link.
So what is up?
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This is a reply to # 1,738,099When people see nothing being done, about alerts, they do give up. There are blatant personal attacks in the threads on this forum, they have been alerted, and nothing is done.
There have been several messages that I have R alerted, over the last few weeks, and they are also ignored.
Seems to be one extreme or the other, with moderating on CZ.
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Actually, I thought it was pretty clear that my post was talking about lack of good ratings in the News forum and used an example of unreported SPAM as an possible downside of good alerts being ignored.
Attacks, somewhat like perceived censorship, can be pretty subjective. For example, I have seen several alerts here and in the debate forums which I considered to be not worthy of an alert and more just someone not liking what was posted. In other instances, both here and in other forums, I have seen people perceive mere disagreement to be a personal attack against them and go totally berserk.
And I would remind that this forum, the same as the WM Debate forum and the Personal Conflict forums all have only one moderator. That would be THE MODERATOR. Those who disagree with that particular moderator may be in the wrong place. They are definitely barking and whining up the wrong tree.
I suppose that rating good posts is also subjective; however, a complete absence of ratings indicates to me that something is not right .
Blatant spam and advertising should be obvious to one and all.
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I saw what your post was about, and replied with my own opinion. Is there a problem with that?
I agree, some attacks, and what some people perceive as being worthy of an R rating, is subjective. Some attacks, and some very good posts, are quite obvious, and don't require a great deal of thought to see what they are, which makes the ignoring of them less of a subjective perception.
Do you think that asking about moderation on this forum is somehow wrong? If the WM is the moderator here, as you have pointed out, I would have thought he would provide a good example of how moderating should be done.
Perhaps what happens on this forum, is the example that the WM wishes to be seen. If that is so, then maybe all moderators should take their cue from the way this forum is moderated. That would be interesting.
Its also interesting that you use the language of "barking and whining", to describe those who express their concerns to the WM. I've noticed this before from other posters. I've also noticed this type of labelling in the wider community.
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This is a reply to # 1,738,279Seriously dont you have anything better in your life than obsessively analyzing everything on Cure Zone? There are several fruit cakes on Cure Zone and lots of good users too. But is everything now going to be an issue with you? You in f***ing crazy town spudlydoo. Everything is going to be an argument now on too. No one is going to think they can discuss anything rational with you because it will just be an argument. Why do you even care? Thats what is strange about this. Why put all this energy into Cure Zone? Strange obsessions. Very strange. The unfortunate thing is people know they can get a rise out of you about anything so now it the future is just going to be a circus.
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This is a reply to # 1,738,303Why do you continue to rant at me? Why does what I post upset you so much?
Your not being very rational at all. If you don't like what I post, don't read it, simple really.
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I saw what your post was about, and replied with my own opinion. Is there a problem with that?
No problem in principle; however, it is painfully transparent that your posts and scores of others like it all relate back to your neverending crusade of bellyaching about one poster and one moderator. I strongly suggest that dragging this issue out does neither yourself nor CureZone any good. It IS the WM's website and it should be clear what he does or does not intend to do about your complaints. I get it. Almost everyone else gets it too. I wish that you too would get it and move on. You otherwise have demonstrated that you have much of value to contribute and, in my opinion, the more you continue your complaints the more you distract from your good contributions.
Perhaps what happens on this forum, is the example that the WM wishes to be seen. If that is so, then maybe all moderators should take their cue from the way this forum is moderated. That would be interesting.
The WM is very concerned about being fair to one and all and is also very strong on freedom of speech. However, I would opine that regardless of how he moderates forums he made it quite clear in his posts on the debate forums that he fully intends and supports cleaning up abuse in other forums. He also has made it abundantly clear that he supports the moderator that has a tiny handful so obsessed about, as well as other moderators who have taken action to control abuse.
Its also interesting that you use the language of "barking and whining", to describe those who express their concerns to the WM. I've noticed this before from other posters. I've also noticed this type of labelling in the wider community.
"Barking up the wrong tree" is an old and oft-used expression. Whining is, well, whining. The term is probably used frequently because that is exactly what those who use it perceive.- Re: Lack of ratings and attention to... spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,738,411Well, you are wrong for a start, my recent posts have nothing to do with any one moderator, and its painfully transparent to me, that you and others are trying to shut down anyone who expresses concerns about moderation and censorship on this site. I can only guess at the reasons for this, but the people trying the hardest to shut down any dissent, are those that have a vested interest in nothing changing.
It seems to me that its ok for others to give their opinion, but when I give my opinion, that is labelled as whining. What I see, is you and others constantly whining about what I post, instead of simply not reading or responding to that which you don't like. Even to the point of ranting and personal attacks. (which sound a lot like your posts, only nastier). Very interesting, and very telling.
The WM is perfectly capable of either removing my posts, or banning me from this site, if he finds my posts offensive to him. This is not what is happening though. What I'm getting is people, thinking that they speak for the WM, banging on at me about what the WM wants, what the WM expects, and how the WM thinks, and not one of these people is the WM. Perhaps you would do better to let him speak for himself if he so chooses. Again, interesting and telling.
I would remind also, that your perception, (thinking people who express concerns are whining), is just that, your perception, and has nothing to do with the intent of my posts.
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”This program is probably one of the best on the market, especially for the price.”
Oh baloney, Spuds.
Your continued posts all relate back to you and a couple of others trying to get one poster banned and then objecting when you didn't like the way one moderator chose to moderate. If that had not happened you would not continue to be posting here about the very same issues that you have thoroughly worn out regarding the one member and moderator. Whether you mention those two items specifically or just allude to them by continuing to make the same kind of complaints about censorship and moderation, it still all goes back to that and you know it as well as practically everyone else.
Now you think there is some kind of conspiracy because others speak out in support of CZ instead of the WM responding directly? The WM seldom makes direct reponses or joins in prolonged debates, but even when he does, the message apparently does not get through to some poeple. For example:
http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1728281#i
So, if I ever hear one more complain against this moderator, I am personally going to block person complaining.
dbModerator has done wonderful job, and so far with very few, rather cosmetic errors, nothing of major importance!
She learned from her errors, and she is here to stay.
NO MORE PERSONAL ATTACKS!
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What exactly do you not understand about that message?
Look, I have no control over what you do or do not post. I just hate to see what you are doing to yourself and to CZ. I will remind you that when you made a farewell post and announced that you were leaving, I was among the ones who posted asking you to stay and not let anyone run you off. I also sent you private emails to the same effect. I did it not only to take up for you, but also because I thought you had valuable contributions to make to CZ. I surely did not do it for you to come back and get involved in never-ending debacles.
I'm done. No more contributing to this continuation of an issue already debated and decided. I'll leave you with a bit of appropriate exit music:
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This is a reply to # 1,738,949What Rubbish DQ,
You are trying to discredit my posts by continually trying to make out that everything I post on issues I am concerned with, relates to the dbmoderator.
I make no secret of the fact that I think this moderator was censoring those that she had personal problems with, and that she was favouring certain posters, who continue to breach TOS with impunity. That is my opinion, and I have every right to express it, whether you like it or not.
I am also well aware of what the WM posted, in regards to posts on the WM debate forum, in threads from weeks ago, and this has nothing to do with that, so why you keep blithering on about this, I don't know. It is you that is continually relating this back to that one moderator, not me. I know you have personal ties with this person, so I can understand you defending her, but you really need to stop with your continued accusations, because you are simply just wrong.
It makes me very glad that you have finally decided to stop trying to shut me down. Your behaviour has been very disappointing, but ultimately very revealing.
I have done nothing but bring my concerns to the WM, which is precisely what this forum is for. Those concerns are not yours or others, that is obvious, but you and others have continually attacked the messenger, just because you do not like what I have said. My posts to the WM, had nothing to do with you or any of the other posters that have attacked, they were messages directed at the WM, not you, or others.
I realise this is a public forum, and everyone has a right to their own opinion, but you and others have gone far beyond simply giving your opinion.
There were no attacks on any moderator, there were questions from me, to the WM, about the issues I was concerned with.
I am quite glad to let this go, I have my answers, it is you and others that have continued this thread, so I hope you will be honest and true to your word, and not continue this any further.
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It seems to me that its ok for others to give their opinion, but when I give my opinion, that is labelled as whining. What I see, is you and others constantly whining about what I post, instead of simply not reading or responding to that which you don't like. Even to the point of ranting and personal attacks. (which sound a lot like your posts, only nastier). Very interesting, and very telling.
You are 100% correct Spud. What he has not figured out yet that his subtle attacks are still attacks and thus violate TOS.
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I have seen people perceive mere disagreement to be a personal attack against them and go totally berserk.
I recall a moderator on the breast cancer support forum doing this after I simply pointed out an error in his reasoning, even though it was not an attack. He went totally berserk erasing the post then going on an attack spree while encouraging others to join in with him on the attacks. He still continues with subtle attacks and dwells on the fact that he was proven wrong by making subtle references to the thread still.
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This is a reply to # 1,738,099DQ you should post them in your forum plus crosspost them in other forums, then you can rate them yourself like some other forum owners do!-
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”This program is probably one of the best on the market, especially for the price.”
Cross posting from a private forum into a public support forum is a big no-no to me. A private forum owner, who can self-promote and advertise goods and/or services could do that and then lure all replies into their forum, to name just one way that could be abused. I won't do it. Besides, Luella rates my posts in our forum and she thinks everything I do is a bare minimum RRR.
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