Will too much iodine ruin my thyroid... 
HarmonicCharge
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It dawned on me today that have I never read any postings ANYWHERE about any harm done to someone's thyroid or adrenals from "too much iodine."
That seems relevant.-
Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... wombat
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This is a reply to # 1,671,079It's certainly debatable:)
http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1049188&s=1#i1
Effects of Chronic Iodine Excess .... 1 to 20 of 501 by wombat 33 mon 1,391 Iodine Supplementati
....in a Cohort of Long-Term American Workers in West Africa. Wolf-Chaikoff effect debunked...
follow the link for complete write-up.
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/87/12/5499
A cross-sectional survey of 102 Peace Corps volunteers in Niger, West Africa, in 1998 had previously demonstrated a high rate of thyroid dysfunction and goiter attributable to excess Iodine from their water filters. The Peace Corps volunteers were followed-up a mean of 30 wk after they ceased using iodine-based water filtration systems. Goiter was present in 44% of subjects during excess iodine ingestion and in 30% after removal of excess iodine. Mean serum iodine decreased from 293 µg/liter during excess iodine ingestion to 84 µg/liter after cessation of excess iodine. Mean total serum T4 values increased from 100.4 to 113.3 nmol/liter (7.8 to 8.8 µg/dl). Mean serum free T4 increased from 32.2 to 34.7 pmol/liter (2.5 to 2.7 ng/dl). Mean serum TSH decreased from 4.9 to 1.8 mU/liter. Mean serum thyroid peroxidase antibody levels decreased from 33,000 to 22,000 IU/liter (33 to 22 IU/ml).
We found that during prolonged excess iodine exposure there were marked increases in serum total iodine concentrations, and the prevalence of goiter, elevated serum TSH values, and elevated serum thyroid peroxidase antibody values increased. The prevalence of all abnormalities decreased after removal of excess iodine from the drinking water system.
PEACE CORPS VOLUNTEERS in Niger, West Africa, were noted to have a high prevalence of goiter from 1995–1998. Initial investigation revealed 39 suspected cases of thyroid abnormality. Peace Corps volunteers in many areas of Africa drink iodine-enriched water to avoid microbial contamination, and it was subsequently found that the two-stage iodine-resin ceramic filters in use in Niger delivered a mean concentration of 10 mg iodine/liter to the drinking water (1). There was no evidence of a high concentration of iodine in the diet, salt, medications, or nutritional supplements.
As the arid climate in Niger results in the daily consumption of 5–9 liters water, the volunteers consumed at least 50 mg iodine daily, which is approximately 300 times the daily U.S. Recommended Dietary Allowance (2). Urinary iodine excretion in this iodine-enriched population ranged from 392–153,780 µg/liter (median, 5,048 µg/liter). Volunteers used the water purification devices described above for up to 32 months. After the discovery of this iodine overload, all iodine-based filters in Niger were discontinued, and other methods of purification were used (boiling the water or treating the water with microfiltration and chlorine purification).
In May 1998, a cross-sectional survey of volunteers then in Niger was conducted just before removal of the excess iodine from the drinking water and, on the average, 30 ± 11 wk later (range, 3–83 wk) in Niger or after return to the U.S. Goiter prevalence and levels of serum TSH and thyroid peroxidase (TPO) antibodies significantly decreased after removal of the water filters and correction of the iodine excess, strongly suggesting that the iodine-induced abnormalities were not permanent....
...Previously published reports have described both subclinical and overt thyroid dysfunction as a result of excess iodine ingestion. Goiter, hypothyroidism, and/or a rise in serum TSH values have been reported to result from ingestion of excess iodine in medications such as amiodarone (5), as a natural contaminant of drinking water (6), as a byproduct of iodine-containing water purification systems (7, 8, 9, 10), in iodine-containing mouth rinses (11), and in the diet (seaweed ingestion) (12). Individuals with underlying autoimmune thyroid disease, those with a previous history of postpartum thyroiditis or subacute thyroiditis, or patients who have undergone partial thyroidectomy have all been shown to be prone to iodine-induced goiter and hypothyroidism (13). Additionally, although the natural history of thyroid dysfunction related to acute excess iodine ingestion has been well characterized, the effects of chronic iodine excess remain poorly understood.
Acute excess iodine ingestion has long been known to result in a transient decrease in iodine organification, termed the acute Wolff-Chaikoff effect (14). With sustained excess iodine exposure, however, most individuals’ thyroid glands escape from this acute Wolff-Chaikoff effect despite continued excess iodine exposure and resume synthesis of normal amounts of T4 and T3. The mechanism responsible for this escape or adaptation to the iodine load probably involves a decrease in the Na+/I- symporter protein, resulting in a decrease in thyroid Iodide content (15). In some individuals this escape phenomenon does not occur, and those patients develop iodine-induced hypothyroidism. Such hypothyroidism generally is reversible when the source of excess iodine exposure is removed....
...Although individuals with underlying autoimmune thyroid disease are more likely to develop complications of excess iodine ingestion, it is unclear whether excess iodine ingestion itself can lead to autoimmune disease. Animal studies have suggested that excess iodine exposure predisposes to the development of autoimmune thyroid disease (18). However, controversy exists about whether there is a relationship between excess iodine ingestion and the development of Hashimoto’s thyroiditis in humans (19). It has been observed that in areas of Japan where dietary iodine intake is high, the incidence of Hashimoto’s thyroiditis is higher than in areas of low to normal dietary iodine intake (20). An increase in lymphocytic infiltration often occurs after iodine repletion in iodine-deficient regions (21). However, other studies have failed to show a relationship between increased iodine intake and autoimmunity (22, 23). In this study some Peace Corps volunteers had anti-TPO antibodies during excess iodine exposure. These abnormal TPO antibody titers decreased in some, but not all, subjects when excess iodine was eliminated. This suggests that excess iodine ingestion may induce thyroid autoimmunity in an otherwise healthy young population......
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- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,671,09050mg per day of elemental - exactly what i said - oxidative stress causing abnormalities in thyroid function. its good to know the damage to the thyroid is not permanent, which i always figure is the case unless it is completely removed or radiated into oblivion.
- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... wombat
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,671,108whatever you say:) I just read your last post, you'll get no argument from me, SIR!
- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... wombat
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- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... HarmonicCharge
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This is a reply to # 1,671,090I have read these kinds of papers also about people abroad growing goiters from excess iodine...
I wonder why on this board or on CZ you never come across anyone saying "Iodine supping is bull, it gave them a goiter"...etc etc as in, a personal experience.
The only negative comments from those who have tried and given up seemed to be complaints about what may have been detox reactions.
I feel like magnascent is the beauty secret to bright eyes and SSKI is good for some wham! energy.
Both indicate good health!- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,671,500thanks for starting this thread. apparently it was right on time for many.
- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... trapper/kcmo
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- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,671,090i believe i addressed that already. this is a case of ingesting 50mg of elemental Iodine a day. that is not so good. in 50mg of Iodine from lugols, only one half of that number is elemental iodine. in fact, over one half is in the form of potassium ioDIDE. Iodide is an antioxidant and is preferred by the thyroid so that is what it uses first and not the elemental. 50mg of naked Iodine is a lot for the thyroid to handle. but when the dosage is stopped its gone in a day and the condition reverses.
- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... Anja
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This is a reply to # 1,671,090interesting, thanks. Trapper, any thoughts on that? The part that jumped out at me:
"...Although individuals with underlying autoimmune thyroid disease are more likely to develop complications of excess Iodine ingestion." I do think I've got an autoimmune thing, I know I've heard Brownstein say Hashimoto's with me, but I found out yesterday there's a specific antibody that shows up on testing for that, and I need to find out what my lab results were. Someone here recommended a book that suggests if you've got underlying immune problem that's attacking the thyroid, supplemental Iodine and natural thyroid hormone are still just a band-aid on the problem and the reason that approach doesn't work for some people. If that's true, I'm wondering if I'm in that category. My white cell counts and lymphocytes were quite low, though that could be the case if this nurse I've been seeing is right about the chronic virus/Epstein Barr thing. Geez, it's fun being human, eh?
- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... trapper/kcmo
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- edit - yes IT can, not yes I can. trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,671,079too much elemental iodine, yes it can. from oxidative stress. selenium, vitamin C and good glutathione stores help protect from this, btw. i made the SSKI 2% to attempt the perfect ratio of salt to elemental. it may not be perfect in every way, but its way better than lugols.
while i am advertising, my products are not intended to do anything but to provide the essential element Iodine as a supplement to a diet bereft of said nutrient. it wont cure anything but lack of iodine. Iodine is not approved by the fda because they know it will pinch their doctor and drug company buddies by curing things it is not approved to cure. hopefully they are not even aware that i exist, let alone have evaluated any of my far out(but true) statements. any amount of Iodine taken which exceeds the government recommended amount of 150mcg is experimental only (and a damn good idea, imho). if you trust the government and doctors to look out for you then dont believe me and never purchase anything from me. i dont want to play with you because if you get hurt youll just run home crying and blame me for something you have done, unlike my little sister who blamed me for hitting her in the head with a boomerang and making her get 6 stitches. she was right(it was an accident, i swear!) - you would be wrong.
thank you.- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... wombat
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- Re: edit - yes IT can, not yes I can... Anja
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This is a reply to # 1,671,105Would you recommend the SSKI 2% for me over the Lugol's? What would be the dosage? In reading your post above, I'm wondering if the "selenium and Vit. C stores" are low for me because despite supplementation, it's not getting into my cells (maybe because of poor gut metabolism), and so the reason I'm testing "no" with kinesiology on the various forms of Iodine is because of the oxidative stress thing. I know that's a leap... but it's not like I've got a doctor working on that question for me - lol!
- Re: edit - yes IT can, not yes I can... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,671,263i dont know what kind of work you have done on digestion but malabsorption is a biggy for those over 40. certainly salt water flushes help the gut to heal about as good as fasting.
http://www.lifeevents.org/salt-water-cleanse.htm
i have found digestive enzymes on occasion to be helpful. hydrochloric acid production decreases significantly with age as well and can be helped with organic apple cider vinegar. dr hays book on eating is very helpful. mixing food properly and the orange juice fast is in there.
//www.curezone.org/blogs/f.asp?f=529
i think the SSKI 2% is a perfect upgrade for your supplement. it will allow you to get less Iodine thats magnetized somewhat and more KI which acts as an anti-oxidant and does not produce the detox of the elemental.
as for dosage, no one knows better than you. my dad takes 4 drops of SSKI twice a day. thats almost 200mg of pure Iodine every day. he cant believe he feels as good as he does at his age(his own words).
one of the places some get stuck at is all the trace metals that cobalt moves around can be gone. this taxes the body tremendously. the only cobalt we can use is that in vitamin B12. if youre low enough on it you cant even absorb that with supplements. an injection is in order. if benefit is felt from the injection(1mg of B12) then one every day until that benefit can no longer be felt after the shot. then you are up and running. no other form can do it. the injection lets you know for sure.
i cant tell ya how many people have been having a hard time on 50mg and when they doubled that it all got easier.
- Re: edit - yes IT can, not yes I can... trapper/kcmo
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- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... wombat
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- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... spudlydoo
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- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,671,125hey spud
my dads iron is still under control. no more signs of hemachromatosis, a genetic disease. 4 drops of SSKI twice a day and two drops of magnascent twice a day. he is feeling very fit for a man in his fourth quarter century.- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,671,140That is fantastic news Trapper, my ferritin levels are also still stable, and BSL has been stable for over a year now. (genetic causes for both problems as you know)
I am on a maintenance dose of Iodine now, as my FBD is completely resolved, (much to the shock of my ex doc).
I will be on this maintenance dose for the rest of my life.
I am making my own 2% SSKI /I2 solution now.
The question about excess Iodine and thyroid problems has been asked of me, this week, so this thread is timely :)
spud- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,671,149if youre making SSKI 2% then i believe you have the solution(pardon the pun) well in hand.
- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,671,315As an Iodine maintenance solution, it works. I don't find I need quite as much elemental Iodine now, as I did at the beginning of this jouney.
spud- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,671,635put magnets on the bottles and you will increase the effectiveness of the elemental. do more with less.
- Re: Will too much iodine ruin my thy... texgal
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This is a reply to # 1,671,676Trapper,
Would you explain (or direct me to the post where you already explained) just what the magnets do (in terms of chemistry or physics) to the solution. Please make it simple. I am very smart, but a little bit chemistry challenged. Thanks.
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