Same old statist replies,, Stephan Barret lives. Same ridicule and name calling,ignoring the questions posed, challenging peoples credibility......
I see you are doing your bibliography again. I love how the people here who don't have a clue what they are talking about keep responding with the personal attacks instead of evidence.
I keep posting evidence, and you keep posting personal insults. Proof is in the pudding as thy say. If insults is all you can respond with then that is solid proof that you lack any evidence to back your claims. This is so obvious that everyone here is going to see you are playing games since you cannot back your claims!!!
FYI Hv has never claimed there is no such thing as gallstones.
Exactly. In fact when I say that the flushing can lodge a real gallstone in the bile ducts what do they think "real gallstones" mean?
And I see they claimed I am selling them products to dissolve these gallstones. What is it going to take to get these people to stop lying? What do I recommend for gallstones? Bitters, lecithin and fiber. Do I sell bitters? No. Do I sell lecithin? No. Do I sell fiber? No? How do I tell people to obtain these things? I tell them to go to a health food store. So the more they make up lies about me the more they discredit themselves and any claims they make including their claim the flushes work.
actually, to be honest, many of the people on hiv's forum are not that bright and have played into his savior complex. people will post questions there asking him for permission for everything they do.
So it is not enough for the quackery worshipers here to attack me personally even though this violates TOS. Now they have to attack anyone wanting to learn the real facts about health and quackery like flushing. What a shame that they feel the need to keep making this personal anyway instead of spending the time posting evidence to their claims. Why do people do this? Simple, because they have no evidence to present. So they keep responding with personal insults to chase away those exposing their quackery.
i guess that is the kind of culture he engenders.
why are you so concerned as well about what people do? you made it clear that you don't intend to do flushes, so be it. but why spend all your time digging up dirt.
Who has to spend time digging up dirt? Anyone with more than one active brain cell can see that there is no evidence that the flushes work, and that it is IMPOSSIBLE to pass real stones he size of a quarter or larger through the bile ducts. Yet this is exactly what advocates of this quackery are claiming. And when asked to explain this they respond with more personal attacks.
even some of the people on hiv's forum are saying flat out that that they did the flushes, passed stones, and it helped them a lot. then he coerces them to recant and state that the flushes aren't real. talk about brainwashing.
Just because someone feels better this does not mean that they passed stones. They can feel better from preventing the stagnant bile. They can feel better from the laxative effect of the oil and bile. They won't feel better though if they have a real gallstone and it gets lodged in the bile ducts so they have to go in for emergency surgery.
a lady even asked him if would test her stones, but he refused!!! the true mark of a 'science-based' mind.
What lady? I don't recall this request. But it does not matter. People have already posted the results from the labs they sent these "stones" in to and they were already proven to not be gallstones, but rather cholesterol complexes.
sire, sire, we have evidence that the world is indeed round!!!
Not really. If we take in to account all the peaks and valleys, including under the ocean the world is not really round. Then if you take in to account the tidal effect, which causes the Earth to bulge it would actually have more of an oblong shape. But this is a great example of how you simply believe whatever bogus claims you read somewhere rather than using your own brain and some common sense.
who needs evidence when we all know that it is flat.
I would not be surprised if you believed this garbage as well. After all there are people on the internet making these bogus claims as well.
hiv's kind of Science will take us all back into the dark ages in no time flat.
You apparently don't even know the first thing about real science since this requires actually using one's brain. So you are not one that should be judging.
I am still trying to understand.
When I google liver flukes there are pictures of large flat stones impacted in the livers of deer and cattle. Do you know what I am talking about?
What are they? I have seen some human photos with the same thing in their liver.
I typed in liver flukes and clicked on photos. All that comes up are pictures of liver flukes, which are the flat things in the photos. But these are not stones. And yes, humans can get liver flukes as well.
Its Amazing how much babbling you two can do and not prove anything . Just getting more and more personal.
The one that is been making it personal is you. Spud and I have been responding with evidence and you keep relying with personal attacks and blame games. Why is that? Maybe because you know we are right so you have nothing to respond with other than personal attacks?
And no I dare not post in my regular user name and be hounded and attacked by you two. I saw what HV did to a couple others who stood up to him and it wasn't pretty.
Again I treat people they way they treat me. If they want to keep responding with attacks then I will respond in kind since this is all they seem to understand. I have asked you to provide evidence several times nicely, but again every one of your responses are full of attacks. But you are doing more to discredit the flushes than I could ever do. After all if you had even one shred of proof that they worked then you would be shouting it from the rooftops. So the fact that all you have been responding with is attacks this is proof that you have no evidence and the flushing really does not work.
Seems unbelievable that HV would put that much effort into discrediting others unless he had an agenda.
I have been posting on CZ for quite while spending a lot of time that I could be doing other things. Yet nearly everything I have told people to do involves things they already have at home or they go to a health food store or elsewhere to get what they need. So what is my agenda of spending hours each day on these forums helping people to get better? Oh that's right, my agenda is to educate people with facts so they can get healthy and so they don't injure themselves by following bogus advice such as doing the flushes that do not work but can lodge a real stone in the bile ducts resulting in emergency surgery.
It seem he takes on the most effective protocol on Curezone and does his best to discredit them.I wonder why??
I have been discussing a bogus protocol that has been discredited so many times with REAL evidence. And you keep responding with personal attacks and false claims. So what is your agenda. After all you are spending so much time and effort attacking those who have proven the flushing does not work and can be dangerous. Don't you care about people's health and safety? If yes then why are you promoting this proven quackery?