Protocol Layout For Kcirla Part 1 
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Kcirla - it's now 4:30 am my time and I just don't have enough "awake" left in my to completely finish this post...but I wanted to get what I have done posted (so you can read what I've got so far, and maybe have a chance to answer some of the questions before I finish your reply tomorrow). 'sorry for the delay :)Greetings Kcirla (everybody) -'Sounds like you're facing a "heaping size" portion of challenges in your body and life right now. I realize it's 'rough & rocky' (especially being younger and not having all the various coping skills we all develop as we face and 'earn our victories' over decades of life) - but there's no doubt in my mind that you have the correct foundation of knowledge that will make it easier to learn/understand the various ways to amend your protocol (so you can heal faster and more completely); AND I am sure you are not any where NEAR "too far gone" to overcome this and get back to the business of living life (instead of fighting for it)!I have all your posts pasted into a Word document to refer to as I'm composing this, so most of my response will be cutting/pasting of your comments & questions, followed by my responses & thoughts (and questions)...and a summation at the end. Being semi-new to the forum, please know that my responses are always meant, not only for you, but also for the hundreds/thousands of people that will eventually read this. So if I say things you already know or realize, I'm not being condescending. Also, when dealing with issues surrounding your compulsory/forced psych admission, it is very important for me to be very thorough and have a solid understanding of what's really happening (assuming you want my input & assistance in that regard); but please don't EVER think my questions are in any way "accusatory" or implying anything other than what I clearly say. I know you've likely "been through a hurricane" with the psychiatrists and your mother's misconceptions - but I also realize the presence of misconceptions doesn't mean there's nothing to address and/or heal mentally or emotionally. We all know (at least on this forum) that the physical can't ever be totally separated from the mental, emotional & spiritual aspects of ourselves. Onward...So, since it would seem that another compulsory admission and forced psych-drugs is the most important thing to avoid at this point, I suggest you do your best to ensure that doesn't happen (and hopefully eliminate that possibility entirely). I've done my best to come up with information about the laws in France regarding this, but the only complete document I could find was what was valid in 2002 (brief summary pasted below). The first thing you need to do (in my opinion) if you haven't already, is verify whether this information is still valid, and what (if any) changes have been made. Once you know the current laws, then I'll be able to give you some good tips on how you might be able to ensure your safety and prevent another forced admission.Here's the summary:There are two different procedures for involuntary placements in France. The first, known as “Hospitalisation d’office” (HO), is executed by the police for persons suffering from mental health problems and considered an endangerment to public safety. The second, ”Hospitalisation à la demande d’un tiers” (HDT), entitles family members or other close persons to apply to have someone placed involuntarily who might be unable to ask for help or care by him or herself.It appears in France one must have "a confirmed mental disorder" AND "be a danger to his/her self" for the HDT forced admission....and meet a certain "risk level" (I couldn't find anything that explained or defined how the 'risk level' is determined).Any physician in France can instigate the preliminary steps for an HO compulsory admission, but in either admission two "experts" (psychiatrists) must agree to the need for admission...and apparently the decision is finalized by a person outside the medical field that is a representative of the legal system (judge, mayor, etc), or other agencies independent of the medical profession.France has no "maximum admission time" for initial forced admissions; re-evaluations are made as follows:-- HDT-procedure: 15 days, then monthly-- HO-procedure: 1 month, 3 month, 6 monthIn Franceinvoluntarily placed patients might be treated without their consent in cases of emergency or should they lack the mental capacity to consent. There is no provision for free legal representation for those being admitted or treated compulsorily in France.All in all - this is not that different from what can happen here :::sigh::: Please confirm that the above information is correct; if it is not, please gain the correct information and post it.So here's the questions that need answered to be able to come up with a 'safety plan':--You said previously:"...but one major obstacle keeps me away from doing so: my mother, with who I unfortunatly live, refuses to face the truth and see that I'm slowly dying because doctors, after doing blood works and scans and found nothing (or at least nothing potentially "fatal" to them), said her that it was all in my head. Being unable to hold any food anymore, I tried once juicing, and she decided with my doctor to send me for 6 weeks to the psych ward, because I was losing a lot of weight. I was forced to take a huge amount of psychotropic drugs..."AND"...Plus, imagine what it's like to be forced (by your own mother and your doctor) to stay in a psych ward for 6 weeks under massive doses of antipsychotics, benzos, antidepressors (I had all that at once. And in NO WAY do I need any psycho drugs, believe me). The only way to get out of the hospital was to fake to all that I was getting better physically. Although I was suffering more and more everyday..."AND"... I decided to give a shot at the IP program (IF1&2, some herbs, juicing, water enemas) back in last October, but was sent to the psychiatric hospital by my parents (!!!) who were afraid of the juicing thing (i was losing quite a lot of weight). I was forced to stay there two months, being forced to take massive doses of antidepressors, benzo, neuroleptics, doctors thinking that I was anorexic because my parents told them I was refusing to eat food anymore (because of the juicing). The meds didnt make me feel any better of course, and I managed to stop them recently on my own, except for the antidepressor...."
--So what actually happened "legally"?...either your mother (& father?) and a psychiatrist talked and they decided it was best for you to enter the psychiatrist ward (and indicated to you that you "had to", so you complied without being legally forced). OR your mother/father and psychiatrist went through all the legal channels and had you admitted HDT (or HO). Which?--I see quite a bit about your mother, but not your father. What's his role in this situation?--No matter which way you were admitted, they had to put some type of label or "diagnosis" on you (or more than one) for admission into the hospital. What were the specific diagnosis/es,--What specific drugs/dosages were you given (or forced to take), and what was the reason for each drug?--It appears that if you were admitted HDT/HO, they could 'treat you without your consent' (which is what you indicate happened). When the psychiatrist prescribed these various drugs, were you allowed to read the package inserts and discuss the various side-effects (or possible alternatives) before taking the drugs?--My guess is that you somehow tried to question or refuse the drugs - what actually happened?--What antidepressant are you now taking, and what dosage? What symptoms or side-effects are you experiencing (if any) from the antidepressant?--Does you mom/dad and psychiatrist/s know that you've stopped taking everything but the antidepressant? If so, what do they think about that?--When you were discharged from the hospital, was there anything you had to agree to before they'd let you out? If so, what?--Did you learn anything that was beneficial to you while in the hospital? If so, what?--You said: Also, I'm seeing the psychiatrist in 2 days...
He will necessary notice that I lost weight. I'm started to really worry that they might consider sending me back to the psych ward. And this can not be considered: in the state I am, this would mean no more no less than death.Since you're still posting, I assume the appointment with the psychiatrist went smoothly enough to keep you out of the hospital. How did that meeting go?--Other than the juicing & weight loss issues, what reasons do you think your mom, dad and the psychiatrist had for admitting you to a psychiatric ward? Do you think any of their reasoning is valid? Why or why not.--We ALL are in need of some sort of emotional/mental healing and adjusting our thought processes and reactions to be truly healthy. What issues are you aware of that would benefit you by changing?Kcirla, after experiencing 15 years of depression (and all the psychiatric visits that entailed); having enough college hours to be only a couple of classes and a few internship hours away from being "officiall" as a psychologist/counselor, and having a LOT of experience with my mother's intense psychiatric issues, I know the "ins and outs" of talking with this kind of doctor better than any other. Some of the suggestions below might apply to parents as well as psychiatrists.The first thing I'd like to advise you is to be sure to NEVER mention death or dying in regards to yourself...in any way, when talking to a psychiatrist. From everything I've read from your posts, it's obvious you are definitely compromised, but it's highly unlikely that these issues would result in actual death at your age in the near future (from what I can discern). So if you tell psychiatrists that you're dying, they're obviously going to (quickly) decide there's something seriously wrong with you mentally. However, if you truly believe you are so critically that death is imminent, then you should avail yourself to those people & practitioners that can help you in the best way possible. Other things for consideration:--never tell them they are wrong. If you totally disagree with them, reply with something like: "I understand why you might have that impression" -or- "if I were in your position, I might come to the same conclusion" -or- "what have I said/done to give you that impression?".--This one is a maybe/maybe not...but with outpatient visits, sometimes (depending upon the psychiatrist-situation) I have found that taking a notebook and pencil out of my purse, explaining that I'm going to takes notes (so that I don't forget anything they say, and can research it later) and then have them review what I've written, helps to ensure they won't say or do anything that would cause them a problem legally. Then before the appointment is finished, I give it to them to review and initial. So that's something to consider doing.If you are ever forced back into the hospital, I highly suggest you take a notebook and keep a daily log of absolutely everything that happens - particularly the drugs you are forced to take and the reason the doctor told you that he/she is making you take them - and anything you say to explain why you don't feel you need them (basically, keep a personal record of any/everything that happens when you're an inpatient).--in the US, hospitals/doctors are required to give you a copy of your medical records if you request it (sometimes there's a fee for copying it). I suggest you find out as soon as possible how to get a copy of your medical records, and get them in your hands.--if there is ANY way (free legal clinic? or something similar?), I suggest you find someone in the legal profession to discuss this with as soon as you possibly can. Your thoughts on that?--And the absolute BEST "trick in the deck of cards" (at least if your laws are like those in the US). If you strongly sense that your mom/psychiatrist are going to have you 'force admitted' again? Before they have a chance to get all the legal paperwork done, sign yourself in willingly. That way, they canNOT control the length of your stay and they canNOT force you to take drugs you don't want to take. Check with a medical/legal expert to make sure this is the case in France (and what other complications might ensue), but unless you find something that is a strong negative, it's always MUCH better to be in psychiatric ward of your own volition that being committed by law.WHEW, that pretty-much takes care of all that! :) One more concern/question before getting into the physical issues:You said:"...I am a firm believer in Uny's IP program, and after all I experimented this past year, I know that only this can help me. I am ready to fight as hard as I can to get my life back, and if it means I have to suffer even more before getting better (detoxing when severly sick is sometimes hardcore...), I'm ready for that..."I'm glad to hear that you've got a strong healing attitude/mentality and you're willing to fight hard. Good for you - there's not many people in your age-group that have your attitude (or your level of knowledge)! Here's my question/concern:I'm sure you realize that by juicing and doing coffee enemas, you're doing only a very small percentage of the IP. You've PMd me to see about shipping to France, and although we've never shipped to France, Dr. Schulzes company assures me they do...so it shouldn't be any problem getting you product (if you choose to order it; still we have no control over Frances customs system so we can't guarantee anything). So here's my question/concern...You say: "... Once, she even went to the point to throw away ALL my supplements, herbs, etc... There was probably for more than 800$ worth of stuff...it's been more than one year now that I am bedridden, stuck at home, had to stop my studies, can't see friends, can't do anything basically. Even going for a 5 minute walk to buy my food is a battle.So, you've said your mother doesn't believe or support you in anything you're doing naturally to heal yourself, you're bedridden and can't 'basically do anything' (which means you don't have a job)...yet you had $800 worth of supplements for her to throw away, you're obviously getting/buying produce for juice somehow, you just purchased a water distiller and you're now living away from home with a friend. ??? Anybody that knows me, knows that 'money' is the least of my concerns...but in order to give you good advice (and make herbal suggestions that are within your budget), I have to have some idea of what's happening with your money situation. So, (please excuse me if this is a rude question), but where in the world is all your money coming from? And if you have your own personal "money angel" (lol) could you please tell me how to get one of my own? :::grin:::I'm going to go ahead and suggest all the products that I discern will be of benefit on your healing pathway. Like I always say, it's up to you to decide what to do with the information.Symptoms/Issues that need to be healed (as I understand them from all your posts):--IBS and/or constipation--Candida--Leaky Gut (possibly)--Inability to gain weight--Inability/difficulty digesting solid foods--Low immune system--Anemia--Ankylosis spondylitis--Pancreatic issues--Liver compromise (and flukes)--Kidney compromise, frequent urination with burning--Pain/burning in various organsWhat you're doing/taking currently (please correct any errors and answer questions)--Juice fasting - 10-14 10oz glasses of juice daily (typically carrots & other vegetables, no fruit)--Coffee Enemas - 4 daily (what kind of coffee are you using? and how are you preparing the CE solutions?)--Superfood daily - what kind/brand and how much?--Flax seed - ground or whole - how much?--Psyllium - seeds or husks (or both)? ground/powdered, or whole? how much?--Are you still doing/taking any of this? milk thistle, dandelion root, echinacea,superfood, some juicing, enzymes (bromelain/pancreatin). If so, what 'brand' or form of herbs & enzymes (and how much daily)?--Apple Cider Vinegar (several tablespoons daily)As always when I'm recommending products/protocols, I recommend that people do as much as they possibly can at the same time (our bodies work MUCH better if we assist "all systems" at the same time, rather than trying to make just one work when ignoring the others). And I always recommend what I think will be the most effective (in the doses I believe to be "enough"). I understand that many people (for various reasons) can not or will not 'do it all' (and that does not offend or insult me). It's simply a matter of me "doing my best" to recommend what I have learned to be most effective, rather than 'putting limitations on someone's healing' by not suggesting a complete protocol.IF#1/IF#2 - I never recommend juice fasting without IF#2 (of course, the IF#1 is necessary if you can't achieve 3 bms daily without it). We need the fiber AND the charcoal/bentonite for the detoxing that juice-fasting causes. Of course, the daily CE's are very beneficial in this regard - but heavy metals are very often present with candida, and if metals are released from the tissues, we NEED the bentonite/charcoal to help adsorb them (so they don't overburden the liver & kidneys). If you're able to achieve 3 bms (with or without the IF#1), it sounds to me the like the IF#2 Ultra (extra bentonite/charcoal) would be very beneficial to you....especially with the burning sensations you're experiencing. If you can't get the IF#2, then definitely do your best to get both activated charcoal and bentonite clay as soon as possible. For a substitute? I suggest mixing a teaspoon of ground psyllium husks; 1-2 teaspoons of ground flax seed, 1 teaspoon of activated charcoal and about 1/2 teaspoon of bentonite (and any other of the IF#2 herbs you can get); mix that with 4-8 oz of juice, followed by 8oz of water, several times a day. Be SURE to keep the bowels moving, no matter what you do. This is very important for everyone, but 'extra-important' with the symptoms you're describing.Unyworm Liquid and Dry/Ground herbs (or some type of parasite herbs of your choice). If choosing Unyworm and you can only afford one, get the dry herbs. It's virtually impossible to eliminate intestinal critters without using dry herbs mixed with a deep colon cleanser (like the IF#2) to drive the herbs into the main feeding, breeding and hiding places of the parasites.Liver/GB cleansing & healing - since you're doing multiple CE's and multiple liver flushes, there's really no need to do the 5-day cleanse. If you're using parasite herbs AND taking large doses of ground milk thistle seeds, you could do without the Liver/GB tincture...but you'd be missing the "bitter" of the tincture, which is very beneficial for stimulating the liver to produce bile. So rather than getting the full Liver Cleanse package (10 days worth), I suggest you can 'get by' with just a 2oz bottle of the Liver/GB Tincture (using 5 drops on your tongue, 5x daily). That'll be enough for a couple of months of that type of usage.Blood DeTox Tincture - In the Liver cleanse packages there are three products - the LIver/GB tincture (above), the Liver Detox/Digestion tea (which is very soothing to the digestive tract, especially if you're experiencing gas/bloating or other digestive disturbance), and the Blood DeTox Tincture (which some folks might consider optional). I think it may be something that would be incredibly beneficial for you. Read about it here: http://curezone.com/schulze/handbook/d-tox.asp Dr. Schulze suggests (and so do I): 2 dropperfuls (70 drops) 4 to 6 times a day for a week...that's about 2oz per week.Cayenne - Hmmm, why am I seeing NOTHING about Cayenne in ANY of your posts? 100,000 HU (Heat Units) or hotter - you definitely want the powder for the Candida/gut issues - start at 1/8 teaspoon 3x daily and work up to 1 teaspoon 3x daily. After 3 days at a level 1/8 teaspoon, go to a heaping 1/8 teaspoon for 3 day, then a level 1/4 teaspoon, etc. Some people can take much more, much quicker...but that's a nice steady pace for most. I've sent you a PM with "Cayenne Files" for you to read. This is essential for many different reasons.Superfood - 6 Tablespoons daily for nutrition and protein (each tablespoon of Superfood Original is 1/4 protein). If you can get extra Nutritional Yeast (Red Star #T6635), it is 1/2 protein "by weight". Here's a great recipe for "cheese sauce" that you could use on any steamed veggie (or just by the spoonful): http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1612707#i (scroll down to the middle of the post for the recipe)Slippery Elm Bark - both to prevent weight loss, digestive tract healing and great nutrition! I suggest 1-3 tablespoons daily, each made into 1 cup or more of "porridge" (using juice to make it is 'tastier' than water), and you could use something like coconut milk (technically coconut milk IS "juice") to add fat & calories. Be creative - it can be very yummy with various spices, sprouted seeds/nuts (ground for easier digestion). Here's information and instructions: http://healingtools.tripod.com/slipelm2.html http://healingtools.tripod.com/slpelmgrl.htmlKidney Cleanse (2 five-day cleanses every month - with a 3 day Kidney Stone/Bad Calcium flush on days 2,3 & 4 of each of the five day cleanses). This 'Bad Calcium flush' contains herbs that will dissolve rock-based calcium and "hard minerals". It's "required" to do at least one during a 30 day IP, but with your spinal issues, an extra one would likely be extremely beneficial. Here's the instructions: http://healingtools.tripod.com/kidstone.htmlTo be continued tomorrow - healthiest of blessings! Uny
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This is a reply to # 1,644,781Hello Uny,Thank you so much for taking the time to help me. I will try to answer your questions in the best way I can.--So what actually happened "legally"?...either your mother (& father?) and a psychiatrist talked and they decided it was best for you to enter the psychiatrist ward (and indicated to you that you "had to", so you complied without being legally forced). OR your mother/father and psychiatrist went through all the legal channels and had you admitted HDT (or HO). Which?
Legally, my mother, with the help of my GP, decided to have me admitted HDT. They decided that juice fasting was a dangerous thing for me. They saw it as "starvation", rather than increased intake of nutrition. At that point, I was in a terrible physical state, way underweight, suffering a lot, and almost unable to hold any food down. Juice fasting was what I saw as my only way out of this mess, having already tried so many things and diets. What happened is that my mother told me I would go the hospital for further exams, and in fact she took me to the psych ward. Traumatizing.--I see quite a bit about your mother, but not your father. What's his role in this situation?When I mention my father, it is in fact my step father. My father died in an accident few years ago. My step father is a great guy, he always believed in what I was saying, went with me to MDs that knew a bit about candida overgrowth. He doesn't understand everything, but he tried reading many articles and books I was submitting him regarding natural healing, candida, leaky gut... My mother didn't even try to pay attention to that, just following what my stupid GP would say her. My step father learnt through those readings that one's body can be very compromised, even if nothing dramatic shows up on standard medical tests. The admission was my mother's and GP idea, he didn't think it was the thing to do but legally there's nothing he could do about it. Plus he is not the kind to go against my mother decisions.--No matter which way you were admitted, they had to put some type of label or "diagnosis" on you (or more than one) for admission into the hospital. What were the specific diagnosis/es,They diagnosed me as an hypochondriac. They saw the medical exams and thought that the abnormalities in them were not enough to explain my physical state and the complains I had.--What specific drugs/dosages were you given (or forced to take), and what was the reason for each drug?
I was given an antipsychotic, risperidone. An antidepressant, paxil. A benzodiazepine, prazepam. An another antipsychotic, tercian. All at maximum doses. They didn't give me a specific reason for each drug. In the psych ward, everybody had a combination of antidepressants, antipsychotics, benzodiazepines. Even those that appeared "very normal" to me. I stopped all but the antidepressant after that, and had no problem stopping them as I don't need them in the first place. I only noticed positive changes by stopping them.--It appears that if you were admitted HDT/HO, they could 'treat you without your consent' (which is what you indicate happened). When the psychiatrist prescribed these various drugs, were you allowed to read the package inserts and discuss the various side-effects (or possible alternatives) before taking the drugs?
If one wanted to refuse treatment, they would threaten to give it by injections. We weren't allowed to read the package, and the doctors would be very evasive regarding the side-effects.--My guess is that you somehow tried to question or refuse the drugs - what actually happened?
The threat of injections. I quickly figured out that the quickwest way to get ouf of this hell was to take their treatment.--What antidepressant are you now taking, and what dosage? What symptoms or side-effects are you experiencing (if any) from the antidepressant?I'm now taking paxil. I weaned myself off very slowly, from 40mg to 10mg at the moment. Regarding side effects, I don't know what is due to paxil and what is due to my physical problems.--Does you mom/dad and psychiatrist/s know that you've stopped taking everything but the antidepressant? If so, what do they think about that?They know, and my mother thought it was a very bad idea (she immediatly called the doctors to tell them), as she thinks the drugs are what I need, even if in monthes of use they didn't provide any benefits at all, quite the opposite. My step father understands that I don't need them.--When you were discharged from the hospital, was there anything you had to agree to before they'd let you out? If so, what?
I had to continue my treatment and visit the psychatrist as often as he would judge good to do.--Did you learn anything that was beneficial to you while in the hospital? If so, what?Nothing beneficial. Only that psychiatry is a shame, and drugs of very little help to people. I believe in psychotherapy and psychology though. But this is not part of psychiatry.--You said: Also, I'm seeing the psychiatrist in 2 days...
He will necessary notice that I lost weight. I'm started to really worry that they might consider sending me back to the psych ward. And this can not be considered: in the state I am, this would mean no more no less than death.Since you're still posting, I assume the appointment with the psychiatrist went smoothly enough to keep you out of the hospital. How did that meeting go?It went ok. I faked to be physically well. Basically, each time I go, he asks me if I'm still concerned about my health issues. I say no.--Other than the juicing & weight loss issues, what reasons do you think your mom, dad and the psychiatrist had for admitting you to a psychiatric ward? Do you think any of their reasoning is valid? Why or why not.I don't think any of their reasoning is valid. My health is very compromised, I have no psychological issues whatsoever, and all I need is to heal myself. I'm the last person that would need to go to such a place, really. I'm social, have a girlfriend I love, live a healthy lifestyle (or at least what I thought was a healthy one), and have plans for my future.--We ALL are in need of some sort of emotional/mental healing and adjusting our thought processes and reactions to be truly healthy. What issues are you aware of that would benefit you by changing?
I don't think I have a lot of mental healing to do. I had to deal with my father's death many years ago, and this helped me see life differently once I managed to "get over" with it. It was very tough but led me to resolve many issues I had. I realised we have only one life, that we should enjoy it and the people we love while we still can, and that people waste time and energy with unnecessary things.--never tell them they are wrong. If you totally disagree with them, reply with something like: "I understand why you might have that impression" -or- "if I were in your position, I might come to the same conclusion" -or- "what have I said/done to give you that impression?".I learnt that. I learnt how to "fake" in front of them, to be the way they want you to be.
--if there is ANY way (free legal clinic? or something similar?), I suggest you find someone in the legal profession to discuss this with as soon as you possibly can. Your thoughts on that?
My thoughts are I can't lose time anymore. This would be a waste of time and energy that I don't have. I don't need any kind of psychological support, really.--And the absolute BEST "trick in the deck of cards" (at least if your laws are like those in the US). If you strongly sense that your mom/psychiatrist are going to have you 'force admitted' again? Before they have a chance to get all the legal paperwork done, sign yourself in willingly. That way, they canNOT control the length of your stay and they canNOT force you to take drugs you don't want to take. Check with a medical/legal expert to make sure this is the case in France (and what other complications might ensue), but unless you find something that is a strong negative, it's always MUCH better to be in psychiatric ward of your own volition that being committed by law.I realise that. But this is simply not an option. I am THAT sick that I honestly think I wouldn't make it out of there alive. That's why for me it's either I heal myself NOW or die. No alternatives, no temporary compromise. Without exageration, the situation is now critical.So, you've said your mother doesn't believe or support you in anything you're doing naturally to heal yourself, you're bedridden and can't 'basically do anything' (which means you don't have a job)...yet you had $800 worth of supplements for her to throw away, you're obviously getting/buying produce for juice somehow, you just purchased a water distiller and you're now living away from home with a friend. ??? Anybody that knows me, knows that 'money' is the least of my concerns...but in order to give you good advice (and make herbal suggestions that are within your budget), I have to have some idea of what's happening with your money situation. So, (please excuse me if this is a rude question), but where in the world is all your money coming from? And if you have your own personal "money angel" (lol) could you please tell me how to get one of my own? :::grin:::
I have my own income ressources, even though I don't have a job, so money is not really the problem here. Thanks to my father. I won't go into more details on a public forum, I hope you understand.
--Juice fasting - 10-14 10oz glasses of juice daily (typically carrots & other vegetables, no fruit)I juice carrots, cucumbers, celery, fennel, tomatoes, bell peppers, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, lettuce, spinach, beets, onions, asparagus, garlic, ginger--Coffee Enemas - 4 daily (what kind of coffee are you using? and how are you preparing the CE solutions?)I'm using organic coffee only, arabica, robusta when it is available. I prepare it "a la Gerson", as you do basically.--Superfood daily - what kind/brand and how much? Super green good by Garden of Life, 4-6 Tbsps a day
--Flax seed - ground or whole - how much? Ground, around 3 Tbsps a day
--Psyllium - seeds or husks (or both)? ground/powdered, or whole? how much? Psyllium husks powdered, 4 heaping teaspoons a day
--Are you still doing/taking any of this? milk thistle, dandelion root, echinacea,superfood, some juicing, enzymes (bromelain/pancreatin). If so, what 'brand' or form of herbs & enzymes (and how much daily)?milk thistle "Now" 3 a day, dandelion "Now" 3 a day, echinacea tincture "Nature's answer" 3 dropperfuls a day, pancreatin and bromelain "Now" as often as I can think of, but always pancreatin when taking ground flaxseeds to help digest the proteins--Apple Cider Vinegar (several tablespoons daily) raw unpasteurised, between 3 and 6 Tbsps a day
I am also taking IF1. I ran out of IF2, since then I switched to psyllium, and waiting for my bentonite clay.I realise I'm not covering all aspects of the IP. I would love to order all your products but I don't have unlimited budget unfortunatly. Also, I focus on restoring my liver before adding anti parasites and anti fungals herbs, simply because I can't handle them anymore. Die off is unbearable. My doctor within tells me to focus mainly on the liver. But i don't forget the rest: my bowels are being taken care of by the IF1 (I was using IF2 but ran out of it. I m planning on using PB shakes to save the huge cost of IF2 here in Europe). I also ordered some Slippery Elm.I think the juicing and the enzymes are helping the pancreas to take a rest. I m neglecting the kidneys a bit at the moment I know, but only because my liver is really my main concern at the moment. It feels so congested and impaired. I ordered some castor oil to start castor oil packs, and plan on flushing as often as I can.Regarding nutrition, which worries me the most because I have to be sure not to lose more weight for the reasons you know, I plan on staying on the Superfood, plus the Slippery Elm that is on its way. The flaxseeds are good source of proteins and fat to what I can see, and I am following your advice regarding coconut milk. Right now, I m juicing around 10oz every 45-50 minutes. Intense.I was thinking about the cayenne, but because it can cause die off, I was thinking on leaving it for later. Probably a mistake in regards of the other benefits of it. I plan on adding the antiparasites herbs as soon as I feel my poor liver can handle them.There is something I wanted to ask you about: since I started to liver flush, I'm passing so much mucoid plaque, using only psyllium, where weeks of IF1/IF2 didn't do nothing. How is that possible? Could the "new" and more powerful bile flow be the reason for that?Also, do you think it could do more damage than good to flush as often as 3 times a week? I do a slightly modified version of the big flush by Schulze: 3/4 cup olive oil, 1 cup lemon juice, one teaspoon turmeric, 5 cloves of garlic, one piece of ginger. All in the morning rather than in the evening.Well, again, thanks for your advice, it is very kind to help :)Kcirla
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This is a reply to # 1,644,867Continued ...Hello Uny,Thank you so much for taking the time to help me. I will try to answer your questions in the best way I can. You're more than welcome. 'Sorry for the delay in getting this posted, but it took longer than I'd expected (that means there's a LOT of good healing information enclosed! :) Thank you for graciously taking the time to explain things so that I can have a better "full picture". I know it must have taken a LOT of patience, because I'm sure you're sick and tired of people asking questions about your 'mental health'.--So what actually happened "legally"?...Legally, my mother, with the help of my GP, decided to have me admitted HDT. They decided that juice fasting was a dangerous thing for me. They saw it as "starvation", rather than increased intake of nutrition. At that point, I was in a terrible physical state, way underweight, suffering a lot, and almost unable to hold any food down. Juice fasting was what I saw as my only way out of this mess, having already tried so many things and diets. What happened is that my mother told me I would go the hospital for further exams, and in fact she took me to the psych ward. Traumatizing.--No matter which way you were admitted, they had to put some type of label or "diagnosis" on you (or more than one) for admission into the hospital. What were the specific diagnosis/es, They diagnosed me as an hypochondriac. They saw the medical exams and thought that the abnormalities in them were not enough to explain my physical state and the complains I had.--What specific drugs/dosages were you given (or forced to take), and what was the reason for each drug? I was given an antipsychotic, risperidone. An antidepressant, paxil. A benzodiazepine, prazepam. An another antipsychotic, tercian. All at maximum doses. They didn't give me a specific reason for each drug. In the psych ward, everybody had a combination of antidepressants, antipsychotics, benzodiazepines. Even those that appeared "very normal" to me. I stopped all but the antidepressant after that, and had no problem stopping them as I don't need them in the first place. I only noticed positive changes by stopping them.--It appears that if you were admitted HDT/HO, they could 'treat you without your consent' (which is what you indicate happened). When the psychiatrist prescribed these various drugs, were you allowed to read the package inserts and discuss the various side-effects (or possible alternatives) before taking the drugs? If one wanted to refuse treatment, they would threaten to give it by injections. We weren't allowed to read the package, and the doctors would be very evasive regarding the side-effects.--My guess is that you somehow tried to question or refuse the drugs - what actually happened? The threat of injections. I quickly figured out that the quickwest way to get ouf of this hell was to take their treatment.I'm so sorry this happened this happened to you (I agree, 'traumatizing' is an excellent description) - and I'm sorry that similar stories are becoming more and more common. I'm sure you've learned substantially from that experience...but while I'm here, I want to point out a few for others (so that they have the knowledge they need to prevent something like this from happening to them).-- Folks, Kcirla's experience is NOT somehow bizarre or uncommon - situations like this happen ALL the time...and not just in France! Each and every one of us that visits any type of a physician is at some level of risk, and those of us that allow "concerned family members" to become involved with the doctors & psychiatrists are taking a VERY substantial risk. This is why it is SO important to learn how to heal yourself now (as well as doing everything you can to teach your family members), before something happens that would cause them to feel like they need a 'professional' to stop you from "harming yourself".-- People that truly love us (and are not aware of natural/alternative health & healing) really DO believe they're doing the "right thing" by pressuring us to go to doctors for invasive/harmful tests, surgeries, opinions and toxic drugs. It's the only thing they know. Once we're sick (particularly if we've already seen a doctor/s and he/she has developed an "opinion" and put it in our permanent records", we are definitely on 'thin ice' if a family member starts worrying about our mental stability...and of course they will worry, because we're obviously mentally compromised and a 'danger to ourselves' if we refuse medical treatment, opinions and pharmaceuticals. Simply refusing drugs IS ENOUGH (depending on the situation) to be construed being a 'danger to yourself'...and that IS the criteria for compulsory admission to a psych-ward.--The thing to always remember (particularly if you're over 18, or whatever the 'adult age' is in your country) - is that NOBODY can force you to see a doctor or psychiatrist against your will initially (unless you allow yourself to become so compromised you can't physically stop them). I'm sure Kcircla realizes now that the second he saw the word "psychiatrist", he should have physically walked away (calmly of course). [Edit: actually when a normal doctor OR a psychiatrist has the power to force an admission to a psych-ward, the minute the doctor starts talking 'mental health issues' and/or you have ANY clue that they're insinuating you may be mentally compromised and not able to logically assist in your own care...THAT is the time when one should use their legal rights to say something like, "Mr/Ms Doctor, you seem to be insinuating that I'm not mentally capable of assisting in the care and treatment of my own body. But it is MY body (and my mind) and I am quite able to determine when I need assistance on the physical/mental level...and I am quite sure I am competent in this regard. Although I appreciate your concerns and intentions, this meeting is closed. I'll be sending for a copy of my medical records shortly. Thank you for your time and your concerns." End Edit] Even when dependent upon parents/others, it's better to deal with 'whatever home situation happens' (no matter how ugly it becomes) than it is to deal with a compulsory admission into a psychiatric ward (where truly, you have NO rights and no control over what is put into your precious body). http://psychrights.org/index.htm (be sure to check out some of the stories).Yes, forced ECT (electro-shock convulsive "therapy") is still legal: http://tinyurl.com/25xk33b And as you are now becoming aware, if you are admitted against your will to a psych ward, you do NOT have the legal right to refuse if your psychiatrist deems it would be 'beneficial'.--I see quite a bit about your mother, but not your father. What's his role in this situation? When I mention my father, it is in fact my step father. My father died in an accident few years ago. My step father is a great guy, he always believed in what I was saying, went with me to MDs that knew a bit about candida overgrowth. He doesn't understand everything, but he tried reading many articles and books I was submitting him regarding natural healing, candida, leaky gut... My mother didn't even try to pay attention to that, just following what my stupid GP would say her. My step father learnt through those readings that one's body can be very compromised, even if nothing dramatic shows up on standard medical tests. The admission was my mother's and GP idea, he didn't think it was the thing to do but legally there's nothing he could do about it. Plus he is not the kind to go against my mother decisions. I just want to add here: while I truly do understand a "mother's concern" and that she likely made her decisions from a 'heart of caring' - I also believe that no human being has a right to have another person forced into a psych-ward, nor does any adult have ANY right to dictate what another adult does with their own body. The only exception to that I can think of, is if someone is truly psychotic, hallucinating (on drugs or not), or if they are truly endangering their own life. But even when one is endangering their own life, there are times when I feel no one has a right to intervene (particularly when someone is terminally ill and choosing to control the end of their life). That being said (and even though I have no idea if you want my personal opinion), I'm going to say this: It's my belief that there IS something "out of balance" on the "relationship emotional & mental health table" when a mother controls an adult child to the point of having that child admitted to a hospital against his/her wishes. No matter how "crazy" another adult's choices may appear, there should always be some level of basic human respect between parents & adult children (which includes listening to what the person is saying with an open-mind, and researching what they're 'saying or doing' that the other assumes to be crazy or dangerous). And that 'basic human respect' goes both ways...as adults we should grant respect to others and grant ourselves enough respect as to not allow others to disrespect or control us. Since your health is compromised I'd suggest that "now" is probably not the time to be attempting to resolve or heal something that seems to be the result of a long-standing pattern between you (???). If this is the case, I'd suggest that you distance yourself from your mother until you're safely healed and in a safe legal position, before causing your body & emotions more stress. Kcirla, of course, I know virutally nothing about you and your mother (so I could be totally wrong in my assumptions), but I wanted to share all that in case there's any part of it that you discern will help you.
--What antidepressant are you now taking, and what dosage? What symptoms or side-effects are you experiencing (if any) from the antidepressant? I'm now taking paxil. I weaned myself off very slowly, from 40mg to 10mg at the moment. Regarding side effects, I don't know what is due to paxil and what is due to my physical problems. Here is a site (whenever the time is 'right') that you might want to share with your mother (or anyone else not understanding the dangers of Paxil and other SSRI/SNRIs. This is the URL for Paxil (but you can search on any of them): http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/paxil-ADF.htm
--Does you mom/dad and psychiatrist/s know that you've stopped taking everything but the antidepressant? If so, what do they think about that?They know, and my mother thought it was a very bad idea (she immediatly called the doctors to tell them), as she thinks the drugs are what I need, even if in monthes of use they didn't provide any benefits at all, quite the opposite. My step father understands that I don't need them. Hmmm, I'm sure you had your reasons for telling them, but I certainly wouldn't have told my mother (who just had me compulsorily admitted to a psych-ward), or anyone that would have told my mother. [Edit: Since still being in the situation where "non compliance" could put you right back in the psych-ward, it would seem to me that telling anyone of your "non compliance" would be extremely risky. Being the 'natural healing proponent' that I am, you can be sure at some time or another I would definitely make known to my mother & past physicians that I'd healed myself entirely without their toxic drugs. But telling them would have to wait until I was absolutely sure there was no way they could possibly force me back into a pychiatric unit. End Edit]Out here on the farm in Iowa, we have an old saying (and I always preface this old saying by explaining...I am not insinuating your mother or your doctor is a hog, I'm just sharing this "saying" because it's SO applicable to those that believe in allopathic medicine, and how we deal with them. Here it is:
"Never get into a belching contest with a hog. You will annoy the hog; you will lose; and you definitely will end up covered in hog slop!"--When you were discharged from the hospital, was there anything you had to agree to before they'd let you out? If so, what? I had to continue my treatment and visit the psychatrist as often as he would judge good to do.--Did you learn anything that was beneficial to you while in the hospital? If so, what? Nothing beneficial. Only that psychiatry is a shame, and drugs of very little help to people. I believe in psychotherapy and psychology though. But this is not part of psychiatry.--You said: Also, I'm seeing the psychiatrist in 2 days...
He will necessary notice that I lost weight. I'm started to really worry that they might consider sending me back to the psych ward. And this can not be considered: in the state I am, this would mean no more no less than death. Since you're still posting, I assume the appointment with the psychiatrist went smoothly enough to keep you out of the hospital. How did that meeting go? It went ok. I faked to be physically well. Basically, each time I go, he asks me if I'm still concerned about my health issues. I say no.--Other than the juicing & weight loss issues, what reasons do you think your mom, dad and the psychiatrist had for admitting you to a psychiatric ward? Do you think any of their reasoning is valid? Why or why not. I don't think any of their reasoning is valid. My health is very compromised, I have no psychological issues whatsoever, and all I need is to heal myself. I'm the last person that would need to go to such a place, really. I'm social, have a girlfriend I love, live a healthy lifestyle (or at least what I thought was a healthy one), and have plans for my future.--We ALL are in need of some sort of emotional/mental healing and adjusting our thought processes and reactions to be truly healthy. What issues are you aware of that would benefit you by changing? I don't think I have a lot of mental healing to do. I had to deal with my father's death many years ago, and this helped me see life differently once I managed to "get over" with it. It was very tough but led me to resolve many issues I had. I realised we have only one life, that we should enjoy it and the people we love while we still can, and that people waste time and energy with unnecessary things. Those are excellent things to know! :)
--never tell them they are wrong. If you totally disagree with them, reply with something like: "I understand why you might have that impression" -or- "if I were in your position, I might come to the same conclusion" -or- "what have I said/done to give you that impression?". I learnt that. I learnt how to "fake" in front of them, to be the way they want you to be.--if there is ANY way (free legal clinic? or something similar?), I suggest you find someone in the legal profession to discuss this with as soon as you possibly can. Your thoughts on that? My thoughts are I can't lose time anymore. This would be a waste of time and energy that I don't have. I don't need any kind of psychological support, really. When you say that another admission to the hospital would likely end your life, I would think it would be worth a few hours (or more) to learn every aspect of the legal situation so you can do what you can legally to ensure it doesn't happen. I don't think that would be a waste, at all. Perhaps we're just misunderstanding each other.
--And the absolute BEST "trick in the deck of cards" (at least if your laws are like those in the US). If you strongly sense that your mom/psychiatrist are going to have you 'force admitted' again? Before they have a chance to get all the legal paperwork done, sign yourself in willingly. That way, they canNOT control the length of your stay and they canNOT force you to take drugs you don't want to take. Check with a medical/legal expert to make sure this is the case in France (and what other complications might ensue), but unless you find something that is a strong negative, it's always MUCH better to be in psychiatric ward of your own volition that being committed by law. I realise that. But this is simply not an option. I am THAT sick that I honestly think I wouldn't make it out of there alive. That's why for me it's either I heal myself NOW or die. No alternatives, no temporary compromise. Without exageration, the situation is now critical....So, (please excuse me if this is a rude question), but where in the world is all your money coming from? And if you have your own personal "money angel" (lol) could you please tell me how to get one of my own? :::grin::: I have my own income ressources, even though I don't have a job, so money is not really the problem here. Thanks to my father. I won't go into more details on a public forum, I hope you understand. I absolutely understand! The only reason I asked is because sometimes people that are desperate do very unhealthy/desperate things to get money...and I just wanted to make sure that you were "okay" :)--Juice fasting - 10-14 10oz glasses of juice daily (typically carrots & other vegetables, no fruit) I juice carrots, cucumbers, celery, fennel, tomatoes, bell peppers, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, lettuce, spinach, beets, onions, asparagus, garlic, ginger ABSOLUTELY AWESOME!!--Coffee Enemas - 4 daily (what kind of coffee are you using? and how are you preparing the CE solutions?) I'm using organic coffee only, arabica, robusta when it is available. I prepare it "a la Gerson", as you do basically.--Superfood daily - what kind/brand and how much? Super green good by Garden of Life, 4-6 Tbsps a day This? http://www.gardenoflife.com/ProductsforLife/SUPPLEMENTS/FoundationalNutrition...:::sigh::: When scanning the nutritional data I see no (mention) of ANY of the ingredients being organic?! And zero mention of B vitamins? YIKES.I see it provides 3 grams of protein for every two tablespoons, so that's around 6-9 grams daily. I'm fairly certain that my original calculations of Schulzes Superfood (what we call Superfood Original in the Storefront) provided more protein than that (due to the nutritional yeast being 1/2 pure protein, along with the other ingredients that have varying amounts of protein). I'm almost sure 6T daily equaled around 15 grams of protein - but I can't find my data. And of course, nutritional yeast is LOADED with B vitamins. Here's the only "nutritional data" on Superfood Original (the one Schulze used in his clinic) I've ever been able to find: http://soul-centered-healing.com/superfood-ingredients.htmIf you don't switch to Dr. Schulzes Original, I highly suggest adding several tablespoons of nutritional yeast daily (Red Star Vegan Formula #6635). Protein & B vitamins are essential to healing - particularly when juice-fasting.There's actually a lot to be said against these newer Superfoods that contain dozens of ingredients (this one has over 50 individual ingredients in varying ratios). They commonly "sell" them, describing all the various benefits of the individual ingredients, but what they don't mention is that with all those ingredients (and only a 2 T dose), that it's virtually impossible to get the "individually listed benefits" from taking merely a few milligrams of each substance.'Very important information here (to read or review) regarding supplments:Herbal Formulas That Don't Work - Dr. SchulzeSupplements-Mineral and Vitamin Supplements The HONEST STORYFrom a previous post:Non-organic herbs:
95% of the herbs on today's market are not certified organic. These herbs are grown in third world countries (India, Eastern Europe, China, Mexico, etc). Many still allow the use of DDT (both a neurotoxin and a carcinogen) - the fertilizer and pesticides are generally far worse than what we allow here.
The workers that pick these herbs are paid very little (basically slave wages, or forced labor). They do not care about thing like "if Echinacea is in bloom, the root is useless) - they just fill their bags and get their 25 cents :(
In order to save their essential oils and 'healing herbal goodies', ALL herbs should be dried in the shade; these herbs are dried (and powdered) in high-heat kilns - many are scorched/burned and have virtually no herbal attributes left. :(
Then they are baled and shipped to the US, when they are either sprayed with pesticides/fungicides and/or IRRADIATED (mutating whatever 'herbal quality' is left :(
These are not 'healing herbs' - they are toxic substances that may have a smidgen of beneficial healing power left.
Everybody, let's do our best to NOT buy these products and reward these suppliers...and let's certainly honor our bodies enough not to plow them with even MORE poisons :)--Flax seed - ground or whole - how much?Ground, around 3 Tbsps a day Cool, just be sure it's organic and freshly ground.--Psyllium - seeds or husks (or both)? ground/powdered, or whole? how much? Psyllium husks powdered, 4 heaping teaspoons a day Again, this is another herb where the source is typically India (which still used DDT) - so be sure this is organic.--Are you still doing/taking any of this? milk thistle, dandelion root, echinacea,superfood, some juicing, enzymes (bromelain/pancreatin). If so, what 'brand' or form of herbs & enzymes (and how much daily)?milk thistle "Now" 3 a day, dandelion "Now" 3 a day, echinacea tincture "Nature's answer" 3 dropperfuls a day, pancreatin and bromelain "Now" as often as I can think of, but always pancreatin when taking ground flaxseeds to help digest the proteins.--Just a reminder that supplementing our bodies with substances they should be making (digestive enzymes, etc) has every likelihood of causing our body to shut down production of what it IS making.--The "Now" herbs are not organic, nor is the Echinacea tincture...so you're getting barely ANY benefit and ingesting toxins.4-6 droppersful (1 - 1 1/2 teaspoons) 3-5x times a day would be the minimum dosage I'd recommend. 3 droppersful daily isn't enough to stop a chihuahua from getting a cold, let alone supporting & modulating the immune system with extreme Candida. I don't know what all you've read and learned about candida and/or Echinacea - but here's a FANTASTIC article on Candida: http://www.ei-resource.org/illness-information/environmental-illnesses/candid...Ground Milk Thistle seed dosage is 1-3 Tablespoons daily. I take 2T for 'general liver support'. If you know you've got liver issues, I wouldn't take less than 2T per day.Dandelion - not knowing specifically why you're taking it, I wouldn't know what to recommend for an adequate dosage. 1-2 teaspoons (as powder or made into a tea) 3x daily is fairly typical.--Apple Cider Vinegar (several tablespoons daily) raw unpasteurised, between 3 and 6 Tbsps a day. Great.I am also taking IF1. I ran out of IF2, since then I switched to psyllium, and waiting for my bentonite clay.I realise I'm not covering all aspects of the IP. I would love to order all your products but I don't have unlimited budget unfortunatly. We all understand 'budget limitations', for sure and for certain (grrrrr). However, I'd be amiss if I didn't point out that you've made it very clear that you feel your health is so fully compromised you feel that death is definitely an issue...and that you don't want to take time away from your healing regime to spend a few hours making calls (or traveling) to gain all the legal knowledge you can to ensure you're not forced into another psych-ward admission against your will (I am THAT sick that I honestly think I wouldn't make it out of there alive. That's why for me it's either I heal myself NOW or die. No alternatives, no temporary compromise. Without exageration, the situation is now critical).That seems scary-serious to me...so that being the case, I suggest that if you have ANY personal possessions you can sell to get the money you need so you can have the most effective/correct products you need to heal your body, you should do so immediately (no matter where you opt to purchase the products). With the price of gold higher than it's ever been, only a few pieces of jewelry would bring (likely) a LOT more than you'd expect. And almost everyone has a TV and stereo - those are usually very easy to sell. I agree entirely...when health issues are serious, there should be no "compromise".Also, I focus on restoring my liver before adding anti parasites and anti fungals herbs, simply because I can't handle them anymore. Die off is unbearable. My doctor within tells me to focus mainly on the liver. These sentiments are somewhat logical and I understand and empathize totally with "unbearable"...but I also hear you indicating very loudly that the state of your body is "critical", and not hesitating to say the "d" word. Candida and parasites contribute substantially to your liver compromise (particularly the candida!!!) With the information the article I linked to above, you can see how damaging the candida's production of alcohol is to the liver and how substantially the immune system is compromised. Yes, the "die off" is rough, but getting rid of the cause of liver compromise is imperative to removing liver compromise...and no amount of 'die off' is going to compromise your body as much as the live/multiplying candida. If you take the IF#2 and the extra activated charcoal (information/links below) and get on those kidney cleanses (which will take a substantial amount of burden off your liver), while doing all the liver work you're doing AND ingesting natural/healthy forms of microbiota (via water kefir, kombucha, kimchee/sauerkraut juice...and the juice of any other fermented or lacto-fermented produce), you will go a LONG way toward eliminating the 'unbearable' aspects of die-off.Because candida albicans is saprophyte yeast (gaining their nourishment from decaying organic manner), we can logic (and my research is showing) that we must make the intestinal tract conducive to the replenishment and colonization of the healthy microbiota before they can successfully recolonize, by removing the decaying organic matter first. But this doesn't mean that we can't ingest as many healthy microorganisms as we can daily, to assist the body in getting the intestinal yeast back under control and in balance. If/when you decide to order anything from the Storefront, in the note section type: water kefir...and we'll include a little baggie of dehydrated water kefir grains in your parcel. Sauerkraut is incredibly easy to make; it's very juicy and it can be juiced, too. A few heads of cabbage, a bit of salt and a container to put it in is all you need. There are gazillions of sites on the 'net that explain how to make sauerkraut (and other fermented foods).But i don't forget the rest: my bowels are being taken care of by the IF1 (I was using IF2 but ran out of it. I m planning on using PB shakes to save the huge cost of IF2 here in Europe). I also ordered some Slippery Elm. I strongly recommend against the typical "P&B shakes" - this mixture commonly causes impactions and clogs. Do your best to mix up a version of IF#2 (you've already got the flax & psyllium, with the bentonite & slippery elm 'on the way'). You need the activated charcoal anyway (have you ever looked into the substantial benefits of activated charcoal, and how it reduces the symptoms of candida/parasite die-off? And it's other benefits are magnificent...especially for taking stress off of the liver & kidneys). Here's a Google search on "candida" + "activated charcoal": http://tinyurl.com/24bc3rhHere's the formula/recipe for IF#2: http://healingtools.tripod.com/thn8.html#2(in above formula, 7 parts "psyllium seeds & husks" = 3.5 parts psyllium husks AND 3.5 parts psyllium seeds - both powdered)And here's a page with TONS of information & links about the various benefits of activated charcoal: http://healingtools.tripod.com/ACP_pages.htmlI suggest you should be taking at least 5 teaspoons of activated charcoal daily with the 'official' IF#2 (7 teaspoons if not taking IF#2). Reasoning? You need to get rid of the CAUSES of your liver compromise if you expect your liver to heal...and two of the biggies are the toxins (and alcohol) emitted from candida, the toxins from intestinal parasites, and particularly liver flukes. The other biggie is toxins in the colon (that virtually every drop of fluid we ingest has to seep through before entering the bloodstream/liver). It's good the IF#1 is keeping your bowel moving.I think the juicing and the enzymes are helping the pancreas to take a rest. And the reason you want your pancreas to "rest"? We need all our organs working together as best as they possibly can to help restore our body. Only "doctors" try to heal (or focus on) one organ or system at a time. I recall you mentioning a "pancreas attack" (something similar?). The main causes of pancreatitis are: 1) gallstones 2) alcohol abuse. Virtually everyone that has a candida overgrowth has a high blood level of alcohol...and of course you know you had gallstones. So, it's very likely there is/was actually nothing 'technically wrong' with your pancreas, other than the duct leading to the duodenum being clogged or compromised by a gallstone.I m neglecting the kidneys a bit at the moment I know, but only because my liver is really my main concern at the moment. It feels so congested and impaired. I ordered some castor oil to start castor oil packs, and plan on flushing as often as I can. Castor oil is one of THE most underestimated therapies in our arsenal - I'm glad you're going to be doing them. I understand when we know that one organ is congested & impaired, the tendency (conditioning) to focus on that organ. But every organ and system of the body is symbiotically dependent upon each other. The reason why the IP works so beautifully is that ALL systems & organs of the body receive healing attention at the same time.Which are the main organs for detoxification & neutralization of poisons (besides the skin & lungs)? The liver and kidneys. You know & feel the liver compromise (which is much easier seen & felt than kidney compromise). And you know that the pharmaceuticals were a MAJOR burden on your liver...so the kidneys were doing FAR more than their fair-share (and still are, due to the liver compromise). So if you want to be sure to NOT compromise and burden your liver further, then making sure your kidneys are in tip-top shape is very important (in fact, cleansing and restoring our colon and kidneys is amongst the best things we can do for our liver).Also: here's a Google search on "Paxil OR paroxetine" +"kidneys OR renal": http://tinyurl.com/39vuv4w So, we can clearly see that the Paxil definitely & negatively impacts the kidneys (amongst all it's other side-effects). You're done GREAT to go from 40mg ---> 10mg so quickly!!Also, this site came up in the search. http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13307 I've checked it out a lot of times for various information to help others, and I think it's the best forum for "Paxil Withdrawal" on the net. Don't hesitate to check it out - you'll find a lot of tips on helping to get off that last 10 mg.Regarding nutrition, which worries me the most because I have to be sure not to lose more weight for the reasons you know, I plan on staying on the Superfood, plus the Slippery Elm that is on its way. The flaxseeds are good source of proteins and fat to what I can see, and I am following your advice regarding coconut milk. Right now, I m juicing around 10oz every 45-50 minutes. Intense.Be sure to read this phenomenal post by Miss H: Juice fasting, gaining weight and losing weight.Good options - mix up the fats & proteins (don't just use flax) - soak/sprout any organic raw nuts or seeds of the "fatty type", and throw a handful in with each juice.One of the easiest things to sprout is mung beans (which create very plump, large, juicy sprouts and have added green leaves --if you let them sprout long enough). They are an EXCELLENT source of protein! 100 grams of fresh mung beans is over THREE grams of protein (that much will juice down to only a few ounces of juice). Mungs are high in iron (!) potassium, calcium and vitamins A, C & E http://www.sproutnet.com/Nutrition/Analysis/mung_bean_sprouts.htmAnyone can sprout mung beans, and yielding a pound/454 grams or more a day is absolutely no problem at all (1 cup = approximately 100 grams)...and extremely inexpensive. YAY!I was thinking about the cayenne,good! :::grin::: but because it can cause die off, I was thinking on leaving it for later. Probably a mistake in regards of the other benefits of it. I plan on adding the antiparasites herbs as soon as I feel my poor liver can handle them. I suggest that you need them both - your poor liver can handle the die off from dead flukes (and candida) a LOT easier than it can handle being congested with live flukes that are sucking blood and creating holes in it (while the candida is creating alcohol and giving off various poisons). I know I'm repeating myself, but I can't say it enough (and I hope everyone is paying attention)...we can NOT heal our bodies without getting rid of the cause of the problem.There is something I wanted to ask you about: since I started to liver flush, I'm passing so much mucoid plaque, using only psyllium, where weeks of IF1/IF2 didn't do nothing. How is that possible? Could the "new" and more powerful bile flow be the reason for that? Yes and no :) Each time we take a dose of the IF#2, it "slimes on" to our colon walls and then pulls away. Each time it pulls away it takes a little bit of mucoid plaque where it touched AND it pulls & loosens the mucoid plaque 'as a whole' away from the intestinal wall. Every dose of IF#2 is effective in both ways - we just don't see the "little bits" coming off...and the semi-loosened big pieces can come off 'later' just from normal peristalsis. There's no such thing as "it didn't do nothing". So I'd say it's a "combination"...the IF#2 loosened it substantially, and the peristalsis created by more bile flow is doing the rest.Also, do you think it could do more damage than good to flush as often as 3 times a week? I do a slightly modified version of the big flush by Schulze: 3/4 cup olive oil, 1 cup lemon juice, one teaspoon turmeric, 5 cloves of garlic, one piece of ginger. All in the morning rather than in the evening. Dr. Schulze had folks with severe compromise doing a full flush per day. You'll seriously have to listen to your 'doctor within' on this one, because although I've done 'back to back flushes' (2 flushes - 2 days) a few times, every time it was extremely exhausting for me - and I never felt like the 2nd flush was as effective as it should/could have been. But the times I did it, I did it because I felt like I needed to do (I just wasn't 'satisfied' with the results). With the 4 CE's you're doing daily (and now that you'll be adding the Castor Oil packs), I really can't say that more than 2 flushes per week are necessary...but I'm not in your body and cannot feel what you are feeling. If you're doing your flushes in the morning, be sure you recline for at least an hour after drinking the oil/citrus potion - your liver needs that much time to release the bile and start processing the oil. One thing for sure - once you've done the castor oil packs for a few nights, you may find you'll be re-evaluating your plan. They are extremely effective, but in healing way/s that flushing and CE's are not. (I once had a 2-3 day "liver/gb spell" that was causing quite a bit of discomfort...CE's & flushing didn't touch it, but one night with a castor oil pack did the trick).Recommendations continued:Echinacea tincture - 4-6 droppersful 3-5x daily (for modulating & strengthening your immune system - issues: Candida & Ankylosis spondylitisYellow Dock Tea - 3 cups daily - to provide a strong source of easily assimilated iron for anemia (1 pound should last approximately a month)Activated Charcoal - 5-7 teaspoons daily internally - to assist in adsorption of toxins from die-off & Candida, which will lessen the burden on the liver/kidneys, giving them more energy to heal themselves. Also for use in activated charcoal poultice over liver and/or kidneys. Instructions for poultice: http://healingtools.tripod.com/char2.htmlNote: both charcoal & bentonite adsorb (not absorb) - this means the charcoal/bentonite do not have to 'touch' the toxin to lessen or eliminate it - rather, the charcoal/bentonite "pull the toxins to themselves" - which means that they will pull toxins out of your bloodstream and into the digestive tract to be safely flushed away. These substances think/know the Paxil is a toxin - so when starting these, you can expect some level of Paxil withdrawal to occur.Activated Charcoal weights/measures (for determining how much you need)2.5gr/0.088oz (1teaspoon)3.8gr/0.134oz (1Tablespoon)17 grams (1/4 cup - 4 Tablespoons)Organic Milk Thistle Seed (ground/powdered) - to assist in decongestion & restoration of the liver. 2-3 Tablespoons daily (mixed or sprinkled in/on anything) Milk Thistle Seed powder - 1 tablespoon = 6.7 gramsDaily ---Deep Breathing 15 minutes, 5x daily - purpose: oxygenation of blood; detoxification of blood; circulation of oxygen. (breath deeply through nose, expanding diaphragm/stomach without elevating shoulders - expel through mouth). May cause dizziness--Hot/Cold showers - 2 daily. 7-8 repetitions of hot/cold (one repetition = 2 minutes as hot as possible; 2 minutes as cold as possible) - purpose: increase circulation throughout body (the blood is being nourished with all kinds of beneficial nutrition and herbal healing - it is essential to get the blood to the organs & systems that need it to heal).--Hot/Cold contrast therapy - 3x daily to liver area (and or any other compromised/sick area). 5 repetitions of hot/cold per session minimum (10-15 repetitions is better). The more compromised an organ or system is, the more desperately it needs oxygenated and nourished with the blood. Hot causes the organ/area to swell/fill with blood, cold pushes the blood (and the toxins) out into the bloodstream to be neutralized & eliminated.--EFT - 3 sessions (15-30 minutes each) daily. The liver IS the "seat of the emotions" and at the very minimum, you have clearly stated emotional issues with your mother (if you're like the average person, you have more issues with your mother than just the issue of the forced psychiatric admission :). Toxic emotions will make you sicker and prevent your liver from healing. Most find the perfect time to do this is when doing CE's. Manual: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=44399 Instruction video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l-VDOGqmd4 Homepage: http://www.eftuniverse.com/"Some day the medical profession will wake up and realize that unresolved emotional issues are the main cause of 85% of all illnesses. When they do, EFT will be one of their primary healing tools .... as it is for me."- Eric Robins, MD ---Barefooting - each day (no matter what the weather) spend 15 minutes (minimum) outside, with your bare feet on the earth. The earth is a natural "ground" and pulls electro-pollution from our body.--And don't forget the "no's" -- no cell phones; no wi-fi; nothing electric or wireless within 10 feet of your bed; no microwaved anything; no tv unless it's uplifting & positive, and then only minimal minutes. No exceptions - radiation, emfs, electricity and 'negative energy' ALL mutate cells and disrupt the electrical flow of the body and brain.Below is a table for tabulating the amount of tincture you need for various dosages.Well, again, thanks for your advice, it is very kind to help :) You're more than welcome. My biggest "thanks" is to be a part of your healing pathway! 'Hope I didn't miss or forget anything :)
Healthiest of blessings,UnyquityKcirlaTincture measures:2oz = 84 drpfl ÷ 30.5 days = 2.8 drpfl ÷ 14 days = 6 drpfl ÷ 10 days = 8 drpfl4oz (using 2oz dropper) = 168 drpfl ÷ 30.5 days = 5.5 drpfl ÷ 14 days = 12 drpfl ÷ 10 days = 16 drpfl
4oz (using 4oz dropper) = 148 drpfl ÷ 30.5 days = 4.85 drpfl ÷ 14 days = 10.5 drpfl ÷ 10 days = 14.8 drpfl8oz (using 2oz dropper) = 336 drpfl ÷ 30.5 days = 11.0 drpfl ÷ 14 days = 24 drpfl ÷ 10 days = 33 drpfl
8oz (using 4 oz dropper) = 296 drpfl ÷ 30.5 days = 9.7 drpfl ÷ 14 days = 21 drpfl ÷ 10 days = 30 drpfl
(none of the droppers measure 2oz or 4oz... the contents of a dropper from 'one full squeeze' via the 2oz bottle or the dropper from the 4oz bottle is what it indicated)4 droppersful = approximately 1 teaspoon2 oz = 12 teaspoons/4 tablespoons4oz = 24 teaspoons/8 tablespoons8 oz = 48 teaspoons/16 tablespoons
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Because I apparently made a BIG OOPS, this post doesn't contain the original header or body that Kcirla originally posted :( Apparently when I was composing my reply to him, instead of starting a NEW post, I accidentally hit the moderator's "Edit button" and just started typing my response. Probably what happened is when I got to the end, I just deleted his post (because I "knew" it was in the "post above") - but it wasn't in the "post above" because I was typing in Kcirla's actual post window.
Kcirla, I'm SO sorry - I really did NOT mean to do that :( But unless you have a copy of your original post that used to be here, it's 'lost forever' :(
Blessings - Uny
P.S. If you do happen to have a copy, just hit the edit button and paste it back in.
Following is what I meant to be my reply (which I've posted again below)....
You're more than welcome, of course :)
It would be oh-SO-nice if we lived in a world where people are not conditioned & blinded to the reality of TRUE healing...but the fact is, we do not.
It would be even nicer if we lived in a world where people knew that Love, Support & Respect are not "sentiments to be said", but rather, they are "action verbs" that require self-sacrifice and effort. But alas, we do not.
Insanity = "doing the the same thing over and over and over, and expecting different results".
If we jump into a pit of vipers expecting Love, Support & Respect, we will be bitten and poisoned. It doesn't matter if we (or the vipers) think they're capable of providing Love, Respect and Support...they can not, because they are vipers (until they choose to transform themselves).
We are a "triuinity" (body, soul/mind/emotions, spirit)...and we must "stop doing what makes us sick & start doing what makes us better" if we're to achieve health. In this case (and in most cases, it seems very clear to me) that we must learn to STOP jumping into the pit of vipers (that consistently wound & poison us), and start surrounding ourselves with TRUE Love, Respect & Support, if we're to achieve the health we desire and deserve.
It is better to be 'physically alone' (without the "wounds & poisons"), than it it is to continue jumping into the pit seeking "support".
Every warrior that has ever won a victory, has fought his/her battle alone! Whether individually or as part of a team, unit, or troop...each individual must win their individual victory. Your body IS animated by THE most powerful Spirit/Energy in the entire Universe (as with all of us). None of us are EVER alone (that Energy/Spirit that we all share, surrounds and animates us ALL). We're all with you Kcirla, and we're all here to provide tangible evidence of it whenever you reach out for love & support.
FEED THE WINNING WARRIOR-WOLF!!!
Unyquity
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This is a reply to # 1,647,785Hi Hon,
I'm sorry to hear that you are feeling this way:(
It's hard to hear when someone is suffering so much and not know what to do! I really hope there is a way for things to turn around quickly, although I know healing takes time.
How do you feel after a liver flush? Do you notice any immediate improvement or worsening of symptoms? I ask because since I have been flushing almost weekly, it varies-but the last time I felt a tremendous surge of energy and well-being after the flush. It didn't last until the morning, and I was tired the next day- but it was interesting to notice this.
I do think Liver Flushing is important. It gets so much easier to do as time goes on. Two weeks ago I got out all sorts of whitish and tan stones (or something) from my liver, along with what seemed like hundreds of tiny balls that looked like chia seeds. I couldn't believe this was coming out of me. I felt extremely nauseous after that flush which was unusual, because normally I feel just tired. So I know, that even after flushing every week for about 3 months- I still had major crap in there. It's scary and fascinating to say the least.
How is your girlfriend handling what is happening to you? Is she able to help you physically, and to get what you need? Is it possible for you to stay with her as you heal? I think that having someone there who understands your condition and can be there to help would be a blessing.
I'm thinking of you:)
Teresa.- Re: Continued recommendations, and "... Kcirla
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Hey Teresa :)
I got off curezone for a while. In fact, I went off everything for a while lol. Being Liver Flushing EVERY DAY, pretty intense... With castor oil packs three times daily... Still 4 coffee enemas retained 30 minutes each daily. And now a gallon and a half of pure juice per day! I'm taking natural healing to the "hardcore" level I think...
I don't see what else I could do regarding liver work... I flushed every day for 2 weeks now...
I still feel terribly bad and don't know if I will make it through that, but I have MAJOR AWSOME news:
-First, I threw away the antidepressant few days ago. Not that awsome, but that's less toxins for my poor body to process.
-Second, after relatively poor results, I managed to get rid of around 1000 stones in ONE FLUSH! I don't feel any better, but I'm sure I unblocked something big here. Before that, each flush was producing no more than 40 stones each. But I passed a lot of nasty parasites. I also experimented a big Liver Flush with coconut oil: no stones but HUNDREDS of nasty beasts.
-Third, probably the most important of all: I TALKED WITH MY MOTHER TONIGHT (she came back from holidays), SHOWED HER SOME STONES I PASSED, AND I THINK SHE WILL LET ME DO WHAT I HAVE TO DO WITHOUT BOTHERING TOO MUCH! I FEEL SO RELIEVED, IT'S AMAZING! NOW I WILL FINALLY HAVE THE CHANCE TO DO EVERYTHING IT TAKES TO HEAL MYSELF
I think it might be interesting for some to know a bit more about my protocol, quite extreme (I don't see what could be more extreme... maybe more herbs) and very much focused on my liver at the moment. I "tweaked" it a bit to meet my needs:
I spend every night with a castor oil pack over my liver. Then, big flush every morning: 1 cup olive oil, 1 cup citrus juice, one tsp turmeric, half tsp cayenne. I rest for one hour, and follow with a super strong coffee enema with 2 added Tbsps of Espom Salts (I know, I know, but I need it badly) because I ALWAYS get a stone stuck on the way (Despite the 7 grams or so of malic acid a day...). And then another castor oil pack, followed by liver massage, reflexology and hot/cold shower.
Then during the day, 12 16oz glasses of pure organic vegetable juice. Plus 6 Tbsps of some Superfood powder. Of course IF1/IF2. One coffee enema every 4 hours, followed by water enema. Regarding herbs, milk thistle, dandelion, cayenne, echinacea. Plus humaworm for parasites.
Basically I don't have time to do anything else than surfing on the web between my juices. I know I will heal that way and no other. My doctor within says me to unclog this liver and then everything will follow.
My girlfriend is unfortunatly living in London, I'm in Paris right now. I would have moved there if I could, but till now I have been too sick to travel. I haven't seen her in 3 monthes, she's very busy... :(
I'm basically on this battle on my own, no help whatsoever. I don't see what could be worth in my situation honestly, but I KNOW I can make it out of that mess...
And you Teresa, what's been going on recently? Some progress? Seriously, go the extreme way, and you will be healed, I know it. And earlier than you may think.
Kisses :)
Kcirla
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This is a reply to # 1,657,462Congratulations on ditching the antidepressant!! GOOD FOR YOU!!!
And that's great about making headway with your mom :)Hardcore? or "quite extreme"? That's certainly subjective! lol To a typical ND or MD? Likely. To what natural healers did throughout history? Hardly. Your protocol sounds pretty typical of what we utilize around here (other than the daily liver flushes w/ES and 4 CE's daily), and the extreme imbalance of not supporting your kidneys throughout your protocol.Dr. Schulze utilized daily liver flushes 'when necessary' - and of course Gerson utilized 4-5 CE's daily. However I do feel it's extreme to be doing them both together daily for any length of time. If you're hearing your 'doctor within' say this is what you need, just be SURE that the message you're getting is being filtered through knowledge & logic. It is SO easy to misinterpret what we think we're hearing when we don't really know what it all means (I'm not saying that's what you're doing, I'm just saying we must be very careful)Regarding this:I rest for one hour, and follow with a super strong coffee enema with 2 added Tbsps of Espom Salts (I know, I know, but I need it badly) because I ALWAYS get a stone stuck on the way (Despite the 7 grams or so of malic acid a day...).Actually, if you had ever had a stone "stuck", you would have called an ambulance immediately and been taken to the Emergency Room - because you wouldn't have been able to withstand the pain. Nobody "needs" Epsom Salts to do a successful liver flush (please read through the information I've pasted below), although it does relax the bile duct slightly. It's your body (of course), do whatever you want with it, but two tablespoons of ES daily does have the potential to cause harm. As I mentioned before, when our livers are compromised, are kidneys have been overworked harshly - and since the kidneys are the only organ that removed ES, this worsens the burden (and increases the likelihood of hypermagenesimia). Truly, you NEED to give your kidneys some support whilst working on your liver especially if you're going to continue taking ES.'Sounds like you had an AWESOME breathrough with your liver & the parasites. GOOD FOR YOU! Be sure to use some type of parasite herbs mixed into at least 3 of your 5 daily doses of IF#2 - there's no way to get to parasites that hide and buy deeply in the mucoid plaque if you don't get the parasite herbs IN where they hide.You said >>>My doctor within says me to unclog this liver and then everything will follow.<<<< But the absolutely physiological truth is that ALL systems of the body are dependent upon each other, and by leaving out the kidney cleansing and support - everything else might follow, but it's going to be a much longer & rougher journey.
You're doing great things - but you need to get it balanced! Keep up the good work!!!UnyIs there any potential for harm in ingesting Epsom Salts (magnesium sulfate)? Yes. (I've always wanted to compile this information, so now is a great time to do it and 'get it in print'):--Because magnesium is removed from the body solely by the kidneys, if the kidneys are compromised in any way*** some level of hypermagnesemia (too much magnesium) is possible (it's actually possible with NO "kidney compromise, if the amount ingestest is high, as it can be with some liver flushes). Hypermagnesemia is an electrolyte imbalance of abnormally high levels of magnesium - symptoms are weakness, nausea, diaphoresis (sweating), facial flushing, hypotension (low blood pressure), impaired breathing, depressed reflexes, hypothermia (lowered body temperature), vomiting, hypocalcemia (too little calcium) which can cause reduced heart rate, cardiac arrhythmia, or at it's total extreme, asystole (flat-lining, no heartbeat).***Who has "kidney compromise" at varying levels? - it is typically reported by allopathic medicine science:--blood flow through the kidneys decreases by 10% per decade after age 30--by age 75, the kidneys weigh 10-25% less than when we were young--by age 80, the kidneys' ability to filter waste has decreased by 50%So, that means unless we've done a thorough kidney cleanse & regular maintenance cleansing (as well as "full body upkeep"), and we're under 30 and in great health, we all have some level of kidney compromise. So we're all going to experience some level of hypomagnesemia when taking Epsom Salts (or any other magnesium supplement).These symptoms will disappear based on 'how much was taken' and the kidneys ability to remove the magnesium and rebalance the electrolytes.
Epsom Salts definitely contributes to the nausea many people experience when liver flushing - and there are hundreds of adverse-effect reports on the Liver Flush forum. There are many of people blacking out and/or losing consciousness.Personally, if I do a standard "Hulda Clark" flush (using 4 Tablespoons of ES over two days), it takes me at least two days to fully recover. After the first tablespoon I develop slight dizziness, light-headedness, become clumsy and find it difficult to focus mentally - after two tablespoons I am definitely "impaired" (I wouldn't even consider driving and find it very taxing to type).From the site ehealthme.com (premium membership is required for this in-depth level of searching) - below is a compilation from the actual adverse reports made to the FDA regarding Epsom Salts. Since very few layman have any idea that one can & should file an 'adverse effect report' to the FDA, the vast majority of these were reported by medical professionals (these could also include IVs). The FDA officially states that only 1 in 100 adverse effects are ever reported - so you can multiply the numbers below by 100 to get a relatively accurate picture:
On Jul, 19, 2010: 6,642 people who reported to have side effects when using Magnesium Sulfate are studied
Top 100 side effects experienced by people:
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'Sound like the side-effects of a pharmaceutical drug? Yes it does. Minerals isolated away from their natural phytochemicals and co-factors are NOT natural to the body; ingested in 'therapeutic amounts' they ALWAYS cause some level of stress or imbalance (which is virtually impossible to do with natural food).Those that are allopathically trained and then 'see the light' (Dr. Hays, Dr. Gerson, etc) - have a propensity for using these substances and thinking of them as "natural". It is for this reason, I haven't included Gerson's handful of unnatural supplements when I combined the protocols. I have no idea what Barefoot's reasoning is for recommending the use of Epsom Salts when he claims his teachings are "natural cures"
Other issues with Epsom Salts:Because they pull water from the bloodstream and into the intestinal tract:--this further imbalances electrolytes--it causes dehydration--it causes diarrhea, which furthers dehydration.--if the intestinal tract is compromised, this harsh diarrhea can worsen the compromise.
First physician, do no harm.Of course, this doesn't mean that one cannot (or should not) use ES for liver flushing, but I always recommend care & caution (it's a very good idea to do a 'trial test run' with a smaller amount before liver flushing). Dr. Schulze (and many others) flushed thousands of livers safely without the use of ES...although it's important to "prep the liver" adequately for flushing when doing this (see this post: Big liver flush every two weeks, no prepping...OR and my recommended flush protocol here which combines Schulzes 5 day cleanse as a foundation prep for a liver flush, along with coffee enemas in place of ES: [FAQ] Healing Cleanse: Liver/Gallbladder: Working File Thread ).Of course, if one is 'in crisis' and/or experiencing gallbladder/biliary attacks (and is at risk of having their gallbladder carved out, or is extremely symptomatic), then taking time to "prep" may not be an option. In that case, proceed with care & caution - always remembering to FIRST, do NO HARM! :)
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You're more than welcome, of course :)
It would be oh-SO-nice if we lived in a world where people are not conditioned & blinded to the reality of TRUE healing...but the fact is, we do not.
It would be even nicer if we lived in a world where people knew that Love, Support & Respect are not "sentiments to be said", but rather, they are "action verbs" that require self-sacrifice and effort. But alas, we do not.
Insanity = "doing the the same thing over and over and over, and expecting different results".
If we jump into a pit of vipers expecting Love, Support & Respect, we will be bitten and poisoned. It doesn't matter if we (or the vipers) think they're capable of providing Love, Respect and Support...they can not, because they are vipers (until they choose to transform themselves).
We are a "triuinity" (body, soul/mind/emotions, spirit)...and we must "stop doing what makes us sick & start doing what makes us better" if we're to achieve health. In this case (and in most cases, it seems very clear to me) that we must learn to STOP jumping into the pit of vipers (that consistently wound & poison us), and start surrounding ourselves with TRUE Love, Respect & Support, if we're to achieve the health we desire and deserve.
It is better to be 'physically alone' (without the "wounds & poisons"), than it it is to continue jumping into the pit seeking "support".
Every warrior that has ever won a victory, has fought his/her battle alone! Whether individually or as part of a team, unit, or troop...each individual must win their individual victory. Your body IS animated by THE most powerful Spirit/Energy in the entire Universe (as with all of us). None of us are EVER alone (that Energy/Spirit that we all share, surrounds and animates us ALL). We're all with you Kcirla, and we're all here to provide tangible evidence of it whenever you reach out for love & support.
FEED THE WINNING WARRIOR-WOLF!!!
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