My Iodine Update 
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Hi there fellow iodiners!!!
Just an update, as I love when other people give their trails to health.
I have been supplementing since last fall. Health problems at the time:
* 41 year old female
* History of Breast Cancer in family and was diagnosed with DCIS 12 years previous.
* Major bad periods.....bad cramping whole life
* Painful breasts
* Anxiety at times
* Constipation
* Anemic
* Low magnesium levels
* Recent blood work at the time said low thyroid
Been a Curezone fan for years and started with the ML protocol. Felt good at first but didn't last all that long.
Posted the question on the ML forum as to why my breast hurt so much and was directed over to Iodine forum.
* Started out doing SSKI and magnescent.
* Recently switched to Lugol's to kick the painful breast and possible fibroid issue.
* Noticed improvement with period right away.
* Major detox problems from the get-go, which was expected as I had DCIS and the concensus is detox will take years if you have Breast Cancer issues.
* Burning eyes, back aches, tired, mood swings, metal taste, swollen saliva glands, lump in throat feeling.
Conclusion: DETOX COMES IN WAVES FOR SURE!!
There are times when I feel like the best I felt in years, then there are times I feel like complete crap.
I am taking:
* 3000 mg. Vitamin C
* 200 selenium
* Magnesium malate
* B-complex
* milk thistle
* Salt load
* Walk 1/2 hr. every day and do light weights. Need to start rebounding again.
I must say my periods are so much better. 28 days (used to come in 23-24 days. 3-4 days start to finish (used to be 10). Overall mood is 80% better. I still tend to worry from time to time (not sure what is off when I feel worried). Anemia still seems to be an issue. I am not sure if this is from the Iodine or periods but my periods are really not that heavy. I had this issue with anemia last year and it got better. I question what causes it to go low again. I read my body very well and I know I am anemic again. Any input on this?? Right now my tongue feels weird and I am craving ice so I know I am anemic again so I think I will take some iron for a few weeks. Also, I have that lump in throat feeling. I saw on the Stopthethyroidmadness website that anemia and hypo go hand in hand so I am wondering if this is just a temporary "Hypo phase".
The good is outweighing the bad and with my Breast Cancer history I will never give up my iodine. Overall things are getting better and better. Just finding this quest for health a long and rocky journey that I am sure will pay off in the end.
Thanks for listening....IODINE ROCKS!!!
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- Re: My Iodine Update trapper/kcmo
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,640,655my first thought was that you need b12 shots. if you need them, you REALLY need them and will feel better. if you dont feel any better then it wont hurt you anyway. if you do feel better then take a shot every day for a few days past when you dont feel them doing anything.
i found this method as a cure for something, i forget what, but it just clicked with me as a great way to cure vitamin B12 deficiency. that can be as bad as low thyroid.
only shots will do. you cant screw around with anything else and know if its working or not.
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- Trapper...about the B12 shots ndul
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This is a reply to # 1,640,719Trapper,
I would love to do this, but at a loss to know how. Would it require many dr. visits, or is there some other option to getting the B-12 shots? I really hate going to the doctor, but would do it if I could keep getting them. I'm afraid they would give me one and tell me that's all I can have for life or something equivocally stupid. Naturopath or holistic doctors instead??? Where did you get your shots? How often and for how many days/months did you get them, and at what amount? Thanks Trapper for all your help.- Re: Trapper...about the B12 shots trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,640,902there is so little that can go wrong i would think that trying to get the stuff yourself is better. i got lucky and got my b12 off of ebay. i dont think they sell it any more. i already had syringes that i have had forever from some guy in fairbanks, just in case i needed them. they are only half ml so i have to take two shots to get a miligram.
a decent md or nd would hear you out and write a script, out of curiosity if nothing else. you would be hard pressed to hurt yourself with it. nothing different than what a diabetic does all the time. - Re: Trapper...about the B12 shots trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,640,902you might be able to find that article. i think i was searching for B12 therapy.
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- Re: Trapper...about the B12 shots trapper/kcmo
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- Re: My Iodine Update just thinking
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This is a reply to # 1,640,655Golly, that's great news about your progress. You totally deserve every good thing that is happening right now.
Had a few idle thoughts to throw out, and you can see if anything fits.
Janie on Stopthethyroidmadness has written quite a bit about low ferritin being the devil to overcome. Possibly you're taking iron only long enough to feel better and not be overtly anemic, but building up your ferritin stores takes a lot longer. Weston-Price recommends ferritin of 100, and I think Janie mentions a minimum of 70 to support thyroid function.
I wonder if your "worry" is my "anxiety." I feel my anxiety ramp up when my temp is dropping or just staying low all day, and the adrenals kick into gear to support anything I'm trying to do. For me, adrenalin = anxiety. Also relates to blood sugar being wobbly. All connected. In addition to supporting thyroid and adrenals, I've found the DHA component of fish oil to be very stabilizing. I use a supplement that maximizes DHA with just a little EPA.
When you mentioned switching to Lugol's for breast pain, I'm with you on that. But I still need SSKI to partner with the Lugol's (Iodoral for me). Lugol's is heavy/dark, SSKI is light. I really like them together.
- Re: My Iodine Update #88964
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This is a reply to # 1,640,847Thank you so much for the input!
I must say, I feel better than I ever have. I think I had thyroid issues my whole life. My feet were always very cold and when my mother took me to the doctor as a teen, they had no answers. Looking back (DCIS at a young age, painful periods, cold feet, dry skin, etc.) all point to thyroid function. I had tried so many things over the years and spent loads of money trying to get a doctor to help me with my painful periods. I felt like I was giving birth every month. Iodine is a life saver for this and I never thought I was going to be better in one month, I knew this was a long haul. The ferritin seems to be the problem right now as I supplement a lot with b-complex and energy is NOT the problem. I point to iron stores because of my need to chew ice, which I know is a sign you are anemic. About 4 years ago, my iron was so low, my doctor was concerned (periods were 10 days at the time).
So back to your experience, do you think I could use krill oil for DHA? I read that is a good one to supplement. I eat 2 tab. of Chia seeds a few times a week for the EFA. Wonder if that has the DHA in it. Also, do you think I should take an iron supplement or use black strap molasses. I have heard the molasses helps. It is so funny how all these things inter mingle. Other than the burning mouth and urge to chew ice, I feel good! Tons of energy although I do notice a slight shortness of breath lately when I climb a flight of stairs or something.
So, I am going to concentrate on iron stores.....and try Krill oil and see if that helps!
- Re: My Iodine Update trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,640,847we have talked before about iron and iodine. gotta have the cobalt(b12) for iron. gotta. its in the minerals for the genetic code book.
my dad has too much iron and his went down and under control(a genetic disease again, mind you!). spud has better luck retaining enough iron when taking iodine. so, like i have said before, Iodine makes everything work better. it normalizes many imbalances and functions.- Re: My Iodine Update #88964
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This is a reply to # 1,640,977Yes, anemia has always been a problem for me so we have discussed it. After we discussed it, I thought a b-complex plus Schulze's Superfood (has a lot of B's) was good enough. Didn't realize b-12 should be taken in addition to the b-complex. I think the shots are going to be a bit hard for me right now so I went to the store and bought the sublingual b-12 1000 miligrams. Should that be taken in addition to the b-complex?
- Re: My Iodine Update just thinking
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This is a reply to # 1,641,017
Yes, take the sublingual B12 in addition to your B complex. B complex usually has only a very small amount of B12, not enough to handle building stores of it. The methylcobalamin form is generally better absorbed than cyanocobalamin, in my experience. As Trapper is underscoring with his suggestions of B12 injections, B12 can be hard to absorb. Sublingual use helps overcome this. Or, if you want to swallow it, just use more of it to overcome the problem. I use 3 mg (3000 mcg) myself that way, which appears to be my minimum to keep back spasms at bay. DH requires 10 mg methylcobalamin and 6 mg adenosylcobalamin every day to help his defective methylation cycle (in addition to the 5-MTHF form of folic acid, the P5P form of B6, and TMG, but that's another story). He's way on the other end of the spectrum, of course, but just showing the wide range of safety, when you need it.
- Re: My Iodine Update #88964
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This is a reply to # 1,641,282Thank you so much! I bought 1000 mg. of the sublingual and took it this morning with the b-complex, selenium, magnesium malate. 1/2 hr later did my salt push with 1/4 teas. of salt, then I drank a tab. of black strap molasses. I bought some watermellon as my back is hurting today, indicating kidneys.
I like to take black strap molasses for anemia because I think it is better to get iron from food than to take it.
As far as the cod liver oil, I was taking it all winter but now that the summer is here and i spend a lot of time outdoors, I was hesitant to take it because of the vitamin d. So much controversy on that. Do you think I should still take the cod liver oil? I do sit out in the sun about 1/2 hr each day to get my vitamin d.- Re: My Iodine Update just thinking
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Oh boy, vit D is controversy itself, agreed. Individuality clearly plays a role in this. Again, DH is one example. He does hour-long runs in full sun whenever he can. He absolutely craves sunlight. He took 2000 iu vit D in addition to these runs during the summertime, in Texas, and we thought we were being very daring to add on another 1000 iu during the winter. We finally tested him one year at the end of August, when he couldn't have been more sun-sufficient. He was barely into the lowest range of vit D. And we've been supplementing more strongly ever since, year-round.
So in my opinion, should you take your cod liver oil? Absolutely. As long as it feels right to you. At some point when you feel most vit D sufficient, you might consider getting tested to put your mind to rest about combining summer sun and cod liver oil.
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This is a reply to # 1,641,723
Genetics. We learned about this defect when he became toxic after two days of selenium. Thanks to Newport for sorting this out for us. There is also an enormous need for thiamin (B1), to forestall what's known as alcohol dementia. Thanks to DH's mother, who just died of it. On DH's maternal side, everybody ends up demented. They live long and die awful. DH is 64. I'm fighting like heck to be his ace in the hole.
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This is a reply to # 1,641,017yes, it should.
the problem with sublingual is it doesnt always work. i have heard different theories on it but basically you cant tell if you dont get any good out of it because your b12 is fine or youre not getting anything out of it because your body cant absorb it sublinqually.
if you do get a lift from taking it then pour the coals to it. you will utilize only a small portion of what you take in that way.
another route for the poor and desperate, like i was, is to dissolve the b12 in a little water and insert that rectally, like a suppository. way back when, that worked for me when sublingual didnt. the problem is finding a product without a lot of fillers in it. your mileage may vary.
i am not thrilled with the shots myself. drug companies suck. they cant help but add poison to the mix. but the shots work every time. if you dont feel them, then you dont need them. they take all the guess work out of it.- Re: My Iodine Update #88964
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This is a reply to # 1,641,721I think the sublingual is working already! 2 days into it and I already feel like my mouth is hardly burning! I think we might be onto something! I bought the b-12 from the local health food store but there is a company called ROEX that sells it as well and there products have always been really good. I might call them and order theirs just because I trust their stuff.
Thanks for the advice...I think/hope it might be working!!
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This is a reply to # 1,640,655Don't take iron without taking vitamin A(cod liver oil is a good source). Not that hemorrhaging is your problem(at this time), but still... you should read this post, here's a snippet:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1637516#i
"I further came to realize that taking iron for anemia, without vitamin A, could trigger hemorrhaging. This is because iron and vitamin A work synergistically in building blood. Therefore taking iron alone lowers vitamin A levels. (This is exactly the sequence that triggered my hemorrhage.) What is necessary, when this happens, is to take preformed vitamin A in very high doses - just the opposite of what I had been taught. High does are indicated and therapeutic in these circumstances because the bodies stores of the vitamin have become depleted, requiring large doses to return the body to a state of health."
Glad you are doing well, my dear and...I TOLD YOU SO!!! :)
Curious as to what your diet is like, health history beyond what we know already. Low thyroid has many many causes .... BTW, constipation is typical of hypo.
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This is a reply to # 1,641,090My diet is very good....if I may say so myself :-))
Absolutely no processed foods (never did) or preservatives . Typically it consist of:
Breakfast - Either an egg or sprout cereal or bread (Ezekial brand) or homemade oatmeal
Lunch - Don't normally eat it...usually if I am hungary I take 2 tab. of Superfood with 2 tab. of chia seeds in a glass of water.
Dinner - I cook every night so I will have either chicken or turkey or tonight I make lamb chops with brussel sprouts and mashed potatoes. I also had a sprout salad with cranberries and walnuts. I roast fresh peppers at least once a week and snack on them. I eat a lot of fruit and vegetables and never use preservatives of any kind. In the winter I make a lot of soup. I usually have some type of fish once a week. Don't eat much pasta.
My parents were health nuts and had a good diet growing up as well. My mom was stay at home and cooked every night. I think my genetics were bad. I feel like my thyroid has been off my whole life and it can't be good to have DCIS at 27 years of age.
I'm getting there....small baby steps but I'm getting there!!- Re: My Iodine Update wombat
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This is a reply to # 1,641,096I'm coming over for dinner:)
I ADORE lamb chops!
Have you listened to the Dr. Mark Starr stuff yet? hmmmmm?
- Re: My Iodine Update wombat
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This is a reply to # 1,641,090
I'm so glad you bring up vit A. Back in the day, it made a world of difference to my own hemorrhaging. So many things to balance. Mother Nature absolutely astonishes me.
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