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If you try to fast to lose weight, you'll probably end up fasting for a few days at most; then you'll resort to eating less frequently to try to compensate for your unsuccessful attempt at complete fasting. This will actually make you gain weight.
But even if you successfully fast beyond several days and into weeks, you'll basically be killing yourself in a painful way. The lost weight will be in part from stuff you need to not die.
Losing weight is hard, but the first step is to stop denying that it's hard.
EXERCISE and DIET MODIFICATION are the keys.
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This is a reply to # 1,569,275It really bothers me when people offer unwanted advice. This forum is specifically for support. If diet modification work great for you, that's great have at it, share your experiences elsewhere. But fasting has and does work well for other people. It's not starvation when whats going out of your body is unwanted fat and toxins. If you're not going to be supportive, find somewhere else to post your comments.
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This is a reply to # 1,569,616Im being very supportive. I took my time to offer some relevant, true facts about an important issue. For you to chastise me for doing that actually makes you come across as belligerent. I'm speaking from a scientific background. I've learned how prolonged fasting leads to paradoxical slowing of metabolic rate, and gluconeogenesis happens more. This, unfortunately, is a method of losing weight which time after time has shown to be an ineffective and risky intervention.
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You act like medicine and research is the final say. Medicine and research are wrong so often that listening to the latest study is totally pointless because 9 times out of 10 it will be retracted within a few years and they'll be feeding you some other garbage.
Honestly, a lot more people have lost weight conventional ways and gained it all back than through fasting. How many people have cut their calories and watched their carbs and exercised regularly and lost 60 lbs and gained every single pound back? The truth is that all of these methods work and people need to stop telling other people what they should and should not do and people need to listen to their own bodies. If your body tells you that it needs a rest from solid food, then you should give it a rest. Popular thought doesn't equate correctness.
Even when people fix their diets there are so many things and so many different recommendations it's ridiculous and it's confusing. Fasting isn't confusing. Theres really nothing edible on this planet that doesn't come with some processing or pesticides or exposure to poluted air or bad soil thats supposed to be not good for you and cause cancer and all of that other crap. I hate when people tell other people what to do with their bodies. Fasting is natural. Our bodies know what to do when we don't eat. If we weren't meant to fast we wouldn't be able to.
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This is a reply to # 1,569,701I disagree with pretty much everything you claim in your retort. Here's a couple reasons why you are wrong:
Fasting is natural in the sense that evolutionarily, when our ancestors had to hibernate for winter, adipose tissue provided energy for sustenance. Acute fasting sets off gluconeogenesis. You should know this considering you advocate a method of weight loss that may influence, and misinform, many readers.
You also seem to neglect the cohort of people with diabetes who desire weight loss. Abrupt discontinuation of food in one with diabetes causes many complications such as diabetic ketoacidosis, hyperkalemia, and potential hypoglycemic episodes consisting of severe autonomic instability.
Your assertion that "nothing edible on this planet" is pure of synthetic products is groundless.
Medical research conducted at accredited universities and institutions is actually done so meticulously that the results yielded tend to be good data. It is not "garbage" as you claim
People attempting to fast for days on end many times become severely dehydrated which leads to serious electrolyte imbalances and which requires steady IV fluid resuscitation in the hospital.
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Post the cites.
I'll read whatever it is you post up here.
I'm a believer in Science (hell, look at my screen name - by definition, I'm a materialist), and my doctor gave me the green light to do this fast.
So let's have a look. Post your cites.- Re: Don't Fast to Lose Weight (site ... #125309
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This is a reply to # 1,569,892Sorry, I just can't resist correcting a fundamental error in your writing, particularly since it comes from a scientist as you say you are right? The word is actually site, not "cite."
Here is a site you can look at to learn more, as you say you're interested in doing
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,570,155Nope, the word is "cite." As in citation. As in a reference to a research study published in a peer-reviewed scientific or medical journal.
It's a little beyond just Google "sites," sorry.
You have a nice day now.
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This is a reply to # 1,569,731Take your disinformation elsewhere! This is a forum for fasting so if you disagree with fasting and think its dangerous and will cause hyperkalemia then take it to the hyperkalemia forum. You obviously have no experience fasting and are completely ignorant.
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That's exactly right.
Why isn't the OP of this topic posting saying "don't cut calories to lose weight?" because we certainly see a horrible recidivism rate with diets of ALL kinds. Doesn't matter which kind - low carb, high carb, low fat, high fat, low fiber, high fiber. Statistics on regain after weight loss are miserable.
There is nothing unhealthy about ketosis, and a quick google or MEDLINE search will attest to that. I would argue that ketosis was probably the natural state of paleo man, since they probably went days without food, then tracked down a large animal, did the kill, and sat around stuffing themselves silly - until the next time they needed to eat and went out to hunt. Fasting and intermittent feeding were part and parcel of their existence.
There's nothing unhealthy about fasting. I don't see anything wrong with trying it as a weight loss alternative.
If the OP doesn't want to do it, no problem - knock yourself out trying something else.
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This is a reply to # 1,569,889That's exactly what I was saying. There is negative feedback on diets of ALL kinds. I have not heard of anyone who has done long term fasting and had negative results. Yeah, its hard. Yeah, it gives you headaches. The headaches aren't from fasting they are the fasting working to get rid of the crap that you've already consumed, including, but not limited to the lean meats and 100 calorie snacks that are praised on conventional lifestyle changing diets. Its the same way that the body gets sick in order to get well. It doesn't feel good, but the body is trying to make itself well. What happens when we get sick? Oh, right we lose our appetites. Why? Because our bodies say "Hey you, theres something wrong in here. Could you do us a huge favor and stop eating crap so we can have some time to heal? Thanks."
People don't need any more diet and weight loss advice. Don't let other people tell you what is and what is not best for your body. If eating clean works for you, do it. If intermittent fasting is your thing, go for it. If no processed carbs is how u feel best, have at it. Its your body, listen to it.
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