I have a sincere question, and my intention is not to debate "religion" and such, but rather to probe human understandings about life and death; i.e. I am not being coy or tricky, but really wondering something. (it might be better if we met on the other curezone nde debate forum(i think it is called that; I will check there to see if you answer on that forum). You said "depending on whether he is good or not he is punished in the grave". What do you believe makes a person "good" and another person "bad" to God? This is a very important question to me to help me to better understand the world I live in. Also, I am sorry about the death of your husband. Maybe he is trying to comfort you or to tell you something about the life beyond this one.

Sara said; " The tunnel is where we to to meet God and the person you call a lesser God is the angel of death. When anyone dies they are greeted by angels who remove their soul."

Rudi's Response; I see the tunnel as a cleansing process on the way to the light or the being I met in my NDE who could loosely be called God but that name is so maligned by people using it that I am almost ashamed to use it. I have come to have a personal name for the light but for me, the Light= The Sum of "All" love from wherever it came from.

Now my "Lesser God," I did not meet in the tunnel in person but rather in the atmosphere on my way back to my body from heaven. I did meet a Librarian type of being in my life review but he wasn't very angelic to me... more like a being who recorded my whole life on the inside and outside... in 3D. But I had some type of protection over me as my whole life was edited for the light stuff and the less than light stuff was just fast forwarded past... It didn't leave too much of my life to give to the sum of all love...


Sara said; " One is for the left foot, one for the right foot, one for the hand and one for the other hand. Now depending whether the person was evil or good, the soul comes quickly, sort of like the movie Ghost where you saw the black people coming for the evil man who killed Patrick Swayze."

Rudi's Response; I know I was an evil minded person when I died... I hated Muslims, Atheists, Gay People, Catholics, Liberals and anyone not like me... and what I saw was myself being torn apart with the darkness being pulled away from the light inside...

There is a lot of food for thought with what you said. I will get back to it again as soon as I can.

rudi

Sarah,

I just wanted you to know that I have a deceased loved one. I spoke to her at length this morning thanking her for loving me and apologizing that I keep drawing her back to speak to me... I told her that she could go on but if it is stopping her from doing other things she should be doing on the other side and that she didn't need to keep coming back unless she wanted to. I told her that I hoped she will want to see me after I finally do die... I know she loves me but our lives together were filled with strife as she was a very hardcore alcoholic... I still can not seem to move on though but that is what I need to do... I do appreciate everything she was able to give me through all of the tears and passion... and pain...

By whatever name you give to the sum of all love, I pray that it blesses you forever,
rudi

That sounds a little like some of what Eckhart Tolle has written about, as far as his everyday surroundings looking different following his psychic break when he was suddenly spiritually transformed. When I was watching his videos, one of the first things that struck me between the eyes was his instruction on one way to connect with your infinite self - beginning with "Imagine you don't have a name."

The loss of "identity" has always been a big confusing fear for me. The idea that I am not who I am, or that I will "lose" who I am (or who I think I am) after death. Will I become someone else, and if so, will I retain any of what I've learned in this life, even if not on a conscious level?

This is a little off-topic, but in terms of sort of leaving your body - I had a really weird trip in the hospital about 6 weeks ago when I was admitted in emergency for a perforated appendix. Nothing much but grogginess and sleep on the heavy IV painkillers, but 2 Darvocet after a few days of very little food (while listening to Bill Harris' Holosync technology meditation CD) created a very bizarre movie that I watched on the back of my eyelids for about 5 hours, and some of the darker imagery popped up the next day while trying to do some guided breathing exercises, even though the drug was out of my system by then. My husband has a fair amount of personal past experience with hallucinogens and has done plenty of reading on the subject. A lot of what I saw (not all) was downright demonic, very vivid, and I was pretty disturbed later about the concept that my own mind had created this, but perhaps that's not how it happens, and some of those doors of perception were just unlocked. He did say that it's more typical for people to have darker, demonic hallucinations on synthetic drugs, whereas natural things like Peyote or mushrooms or whatever tend to produce more angelic experiences. I have virtually no experience with any of those things, so I'm curious about the archetypal image aspect of this - why that would be fairly universal if it's true, and yet again how the tunnel or NDE experience can be different depending on a person's religious beliefs.

Incidentally, the second half of that "movie" involved a lot of rapid flying, out a window with kind, smiling people seated around the room pointing me in the direction to go, over a moonlit beautiful landscape, and then on my back with arms and legs dangling, shooting straight up very fast into the sky and out into the cosmos. It would stop when I opened my eyes, and resume when they were closed.

The only other time I had an out of body experience was when I was getting a 4 hands biodynamic craniosacral treatment from 2 women at the same time, I felt myself drop through the table and it was only a split second, but in that moment I felt like the truth of the universe had been revealed to me, I felt something like "OH! That's what it's about, it's so simple..." , a feeling of profound peace, and then of course I was back and can't remember what I was shown or realized.