"Siding with anyone is what creates separation"

Not really. Are you saying that sharing common beliefs is separation? Explain. That would make the idea of morphogenic fields an aspect of separation. It is ironic that the endorsing of non violence is spun into separation.

But if you still think so then look at this..

"I agree with you (and Spud)..."




"Is a carrot less than a sheep? Why so? Because it has no eyes?"

As you use wordplay to justify your point read my other posts where I say plants have consciousness and they offer nutrition in a way that doesn't kill the plant.

"Pain is a mind at war with reality."

No. Pain is when an animal is being let to its death just like prisoners under Hitler were. Pain is when you have your skin removed while you are still living. Lets go beyond the new age apologetics for the carnage. Pain is when your children are murdered in front of your eyes. And the worst thing is to accept this pain under the scripting of "what is" enduring it will never change. Pain is being ingnored while you are led to your death and voices that point out the insanity are being stifled under new age guises to justify it.

"Getting back to the topic of this thread. Since your response to the information I posted brings up some judgments, then this is just your code. Codes are fine when lived out peacefully, but to suggest others should also live from the same code is war :-)"

Let me return this notion. You have chosen to post on this topic. So let me point you back to yourself to your own words as they apply to you in mirror form. Look in the mirror especially as it applies to the bolded text. Of course my posts never brought up any "judgements>" When it is coming from your reference point youi term it as your truth. I see what you did there. ;-)

Let me leave you with this as an addition to your words pointed back to you...

I suggest people never harm your kids nor you. Are you in alignment with that? Some codes are worth endorsing. Some are irrelevant to the harmony of all. Some are very relevant.

As we all know, we are not living in a vacuum. What one person does has a ripple effect throughout. If I spray pesticides it affects you. Our choices have far reaching impacts. It is obvious people like Gandhi knew this too.

Others will continue to throw garbage on their floor and wonder why it smells funny over time. They just arn'et making the connection to the results of their actions.

As far as "judgments" go, life is made up of judgments like I outlined in an earlier post. Every decision you make is a judgment. Try not judging (choosing) and see how long you live.

"but to suggest others should also live from the same code is war :-)"

Again....telling someone that they should not murder your kids is a war? See how new age philosophies hook the mind into weird pastures and stances?


Carnage is carnage and justifying it with a belief system then verbalizing that the messenger has some issues because they are not okay with this carnage hints at something much deeper I think.