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HV do you recommend drinking kefir on a regular basis? Or do we treat it like a supplement and take as needed?
Lastly, I'm assuming that the B vitamins you recommend should be mostly from fruits and vegetables, as I don't prefer to take them from supplements. I'm just trying to understand the necessary ingredients\nutrients to maxmize proper digestion. It's true that you can take the best herbs in the world, but if they are not being properly digested\assimilated into the body they will not be as effective. Sorry I had responded to user Rainey (For HV), but I think you missed my question.
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HV do you recommend drinking kefir on a regular basis? Or do we treat it like a supplement and take as needed?
I use it more like a supplement. For long term I really prefer prebiotics since probiotics do not replace all the strains of flora. Prebiotics on the other hand stimulate the growth of all the flora strains. So they work better for the long term.
But if someone is having severe digestive issues, or are being exposed to molds, or fungus then they will benefit from being on both probiotics and prebiotics on a regular basis.
Lastly, I'm assuming that the B vitamins you recommend should be mostly from fruits and vegetables, as I don't prefer to take them from supplements.Yes, I prefer natural sources first. These include rice and oart brans, watercress, seaweeds, nutritional yeast, pollen, and nettle leaf. If people are going to use a B supplement I recommend a B50 complex twice a day. B100 or B125 is a real waste of money.
I'm just trying to understand the necessary ingredients\nutrients to maxmize proper digestion. It's true that you can take the best herbs in the world, but if they are not being properly digested\assimilated into the body they will not be as effective.
Yes, if they are not being absorbed then they are just being expelled. Acid is required for the absorption of many nutrients. In particular minerals and vitamins B6, B12 and folate.
Sorry I had responded to user Rainey (For HV), but I think you missed my question.
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Kefir is the best probiotic. I prefer kefir because of the wide range of beneficial bacteria. Most probiotic supplements only contain acidophilus or a couple of strains. It usually has prebiotics like FOS added as well. And I like the fact that I know the cultures are live. I feel that capsules claiming strengths of 30 million or 50 million bacteria are very misleading. These bacteria are heat and time sensitive. There is no telling how old they are or what conditions they have been exposed to. For example where I live it gets really hot. Mid summer can easily hit 115F or more. And depending on how the supplements are shipped they may or may not be in air conditioned vehicles. UPS for example does not cool their vehicles. So it is impossible to say if the probiotics are viable if they were shipped in the heat. Store bought kefir is shipped and stored cold so I know the cultures are active. And you can make your own inexpensively, which also guarantees the cultures are active.
You can get starter cultures online or buy kefir in larger health food stores and some grocery stores.
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So you can have dry powdered kefir starter mailed without a problem? I suppose it lasts a long time dry, and then you add it to any form of milk?
The prebiotic you recommind is FOS? What does a prebiotic do that's better than kefir?
Thank you.
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So you can have dry powdered kefir starter mailed without a problem?
I get the kefir already made. I use it in place of yogurt as a snack once in a while, or take larger doses if my stomach is upset.
I suppose it lasts a long time dry, and then you add it to any form of milk?
They should be pretty stable in a dry form.
The prebiotic you recommind is FOS?
Yes, fructooligosaccharides. These are long chain sugar molecules (fiber) that feed the flora. It is a fine off white powder that has virtually no taste. So it can be easily added to foods.
What does a prebiotic do that's better than kefir?
Any probiotic will only replace a limited number of bacterial strains. They do not replace all of the various strains of bacteria in the intestines. Prebiotics on the other hand feed the flora, so they will stimulate the growth of all the flora in the intestines. Even if someone takes antibiotics they will never kill off every last beneficial bacteria of a particular strain. So these surviving bacteria can be stimulated to increase in numbers by feeding them. Therefore I look at probiotics as a jump start to getting the flora up, but use prebiotics to keep up the growth for the long run.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,474,871"Even if someone takes Antibiotics they will never kill off every last beneficial bacteria of a particular strain."
I read somewhere that the appendix is "safe house" for the friendly bacteria; so if one still has their appendix, the bacteria can repopulate.
I'm counting on this.
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This is a reply to # 1,474,854"You can get starter cultures online or buy kefir in larger health food stores and some grocery stores."
Some of these starter kits only last for 6 batches, you need proper kefir grains, they will last indefinately, as long as not contaminated with anything.
I got mine from ebay for just over £1 plus postage for around a tablespoon of grains. Or go on kefir forums and ask for grains.
It takes a few batches to get them really going, they are a bit slow to start with as need to recover.
Mine haven't grown that much yet, but only made few batches so far.
I had some grains a few years ago, and had loads of spare grains to give away.
Keep spare grains in little bit of milk in glass jar in fridge and rotate the grains you use, and extra grains can be frozen in small batches in case you need some at later date or for selling or giving away.
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