No fatties at Woodstock 
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I was just looking at a photo of Woodstock...40th anniversary....what struck me most that in a photo of 400,000+ I could not find one fattie. Not one. If Woodstock were held today we could only fit perhaps 100,000 Americans onto that same sized real estate
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,469,949I've noticed that too. You see very few overweight people in old pictures. Be careful where you mention this. You will be surprised how angry people become when you mention this.
- Re: No fatties at Woodstock telluride
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,470,005I know what you mean....fatties are very defensive....I don't care :))
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- lololol! Willowley
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Thats because there weren't as many dumbed down people way back in the day ha ha. Plus there wasn't as much fake food out there to make life easier LOL.
I'd hate to see 400,000 whales dancing around, a person might get crushed!
- Re: lololol! telluride
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This is a reply to # 1,470,012I hate to make fun of fatties but it has become epidemic and i really don't feel sorry for these people...when you get down to it we are all respnsible for our well being
- Re: lololol! Willowley
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Ain't that the truth! It has become an epidemic and is directly related to causing a multitude of health issues.
There will come a time when every one of those people will realize the harm they've done to their bodies carrying around all that extra weight.
Its shocking to see how huge some are. We went to a restaurant the other night and more than half the wait staff were over 350 pounds. The booths in this restaurant are so far away from the table I had to sit on the edge of the booth to be able to reach the table. I couldn't figure out why they were so far apart until I saw the wait staff. It was horrible.
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- Re: lololol! telluride
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This is a reply to # 1,470,025It is shocking!!! what kills me is that is has become accepted as the norm.....when I was younger being a tubster meant you tried to hide it.....now it's let the blubbber fly in all it's glory....here is when i bcome in favor of death penalty :)
- Re: lololol! Willowley
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This is a reply to # 1,470,030
It has become the norm and that is so sad. If those people could only discover who much greater life would be for them if they were of a normal weight they'd never gain weight again.
This is a very touchy subject with many but our society has condoned this with things like in that restaurant where the seats were so far from the table. The table and the booths were bolted down so that you couldn't move them close which makes it uncomfortable for those of us who are a normal weight. If there weren't concessions like that then maybe it wouldn't be so prevalent.
- Re: lololol! spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,470,044lol, I think its great that they are now providing big bus seats and plane seats. I'm a normal weight and I have this huge comfy seat to sit in with plenty of space in between, much nicer than being squished up against some obese person on a 10 hour bus trip. For this I thank the fatties :)
spud- Re: lololol! Willowley
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Hey Spud,
I agree with you on that one. Nothing worse than being crammed by someone spilling over into your seat.
But this booth we sat in at the restaurant, I swear if I sat back on the booth seat the table was almost 20 inches from me. I had a tape measure in the car so I measured it. My husband told me I was crazy that it wasn't that far so I had to show him LOL. I had to sit on the very front edge of the seat just to reach the table. It was crazy. It would have fit the wait staff perfectly!
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- Re: lololol!Fatties FromOz
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This is a reply to # 1,470,012Because of their size, we make assumptions that someone has been overeating, when they could have been restricting their food intake all week. It's unacceptable to attack someone on the grounds of their race or religion, but overweight people are fair game. One day, we'll look back at how people with obesity are treated now, and it will be seen as the dark ages."
As for the part heredity plays in weight gain, occasionally there's a single gene that's to blame, such as one that interferes with the production of leptin, a hormone that regulates appetite, says Lesley Campbell. "But mostly when people inherit a tendency to put on weight, it's an effect of multiple genes that influence things like how efficiently we store fat, how quickly we eat and how much we eat," she explains. "These are good genes because for most of human evolution they were what we needed for survival."
But the same genes that saved lives in long-ago famines can now make us sitting ducks for weight gain in a 21st-century culture that makes it easy to eat, but harder to burn off the kilojoules.
From a woman who'd been overweight herself, talked of strangers approaching her in the street, telling her she made them feel sick. "I had old ladies come up to me and take food out of my hands," she continued. "I was spat on. Since it became politically incorrect to deride the disabled, foreigners and women, fat people have became the last bastion of permissible ridicule."
"Genes account for about 50 per cent of the variables that affect our weight, but if you've inherited genes that make weight loss harder, that still leaves 50 per cent of hope," says Sainsbury-Salis. "It might be more difficult but it's not impossible."
Meanwhile, in laboratories around the world, the hunt goes on for ways to outsmart our survival "fat" genes and make weight loss easier. But while we need science to find a solution, says Lesley Campbell, we also need the community to find more understanding for people who live with being overweight. "
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This is a reply to # 1,470,765When I see threads from skinny healthy people making fun of "fatties", it just makes me want to run away and cry.
Food has always been my "drug" of choice when depressed.
When I see a fat person, I do what I can to help them, without making them feel ashamed, I know - I have BEEN there! It is VERY tough.
I have been there, and with the stress I've been dealing with lately, have been gaining weight back again, because, like I said, food is also my "drug".
I get VERY disheartened because "out there" I am not accepted because I am "so" into health issues.
On health sites, there are many times I feel I would not be accepted because I am visibly overweight at the moment.
It really svcks! Because I have had healthy people tell me, "if you tried HARDER, if you read MORE, if you apply yourself BETTER"
rant over - it just svcks- For High On Water Willowley
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H-O-W,
I want to apologize for my part in offending you. It truly wasn't my intention to make fun of obese people, if my comments made you feel like I did then I'm truly sorry.
I have been overweight, in fact its something I've struggled with until recently, well within the last couple of years when I learned to stop eating all the fake food and start eating all the nutritious healthy whole foods that God intended for us to nourish our bodies with.
As a young adult and for years after, food was also my "drug" of choice until I learned that my "drug" of choice was keeping me addicted to it. When I started learning the food manufacturing plants put addictive substances in what they call food I started researching and that alone got me off my "drug" of choice. The weight started melting off of me and now I'm at the weight thats right for me.
Although I have been overweight I've never been obese, I've been as much as 35 pounds overweight and I know how miserable it made me feel, not only with the vanity issue but with the horrible blah feeling that accompanies being overweight, not to mention the health issues that are directly related. So I know exactly what you're talking about.
When I saw the post about people not being so obese 40 years ago it really brought home the truth of how dumbed down we've become as a nation. I really do feel like our society has contributed to obesity becoming the norm. Just like years ago when you'd turn on the TV you'd never hear a curse word, now its the norm. Its all in what society condones and makes concessions for that become the norm.
The point I was trying to make in my post was that I was made to feel uncomfortable because of one of those concessions for obese people. I know, I know, it was my choice to eat at that restaurant where I couldn't reach the table but the fact is I don't think its fair. Of course not much in life is fair. Its not fair that the food industry saturates its non food products with addicting chemicals either and its not fair that 98% of the population don't know it. Its not fair that the PTB have engineered all of this.
The sad fact is that being obese is not a disease, in most people its a lifestyle choice, I know there are exceptions but generally speaking its a choice. Its also a choice to research what we're putting into our bodies, especially in these times. I have learned to love whole nutritious foods as a result of all my research and its made a huge difference in my life. I can now share what I've learned but the fact is that I'd say 99% of the people don't want to hear it. It all boils down to our right to make our own choices in life.
Again, I'm sorry that I contributed to making you feel like crying. I would never treat obese people badly or laugh at them but I did not enjoy being uncomfortable eating my dinner because of one of the concessions made for them. And when I see pictures of children that are obese it makes me mad as HELL because I know their quality of life isn't what it was meant to be. I'm just saying.
Willow
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- Re: lololol!Fatties spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,470,765Genetics can predispose a person to weight gain, but it is the choices that people make that result in that person gaining weight, not the genes themselves. Overweight and obese people can do something about their weight, unless there are exceptional circumstances preventing this (and I mean exceptional circumstances). Just as people can choose to smoke or not to smoke, drink alcohol to excess, or not, use drugs , or not, people can choose to be overweight , or not.
There are many groups in society that are ridiculed, poked fun at, etc, why should the overweight or obese be excluded, as opposed to any other group. I'm not saying that I advocate the ridicule of anyone, but this needs to be put in perspective.
spud
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- lololol! Willowley
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- Re: How we became a society of glutt... wombat
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This is a reply to # 1,469,949http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_18761.cfm
It's an uphill battle for most to resist foods that are formulated, in a lab, to keep you coming back for more. Everything is considered, from the crunch factor that provides drama and violence, to the fat content, which provides satiety and comfort, to the sugar, which is recognized by the body as pure energy(life).
Doritos, anyone?- Re: How we became a society of glutt... Willowley
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You're right Wombat. Once a person starts eating that kind of non-food its addicting but they don't tell you that part. I wish everyone would do the research instead of just doing what will save them time.
- Re: How we became a society of glutt... wombat
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This is a reply to # 1,470,118And when one eats a lot of that crap- they're still hungry. No nutritional value in that stuff whatsoever.
- Re: How we became a society of glutt... spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,470,118It doesn't save time anyway. Dinner last night I had pumpkin soup, homemade in a slow cooker, with homemade bread. I'm working 14 hours a day at the moment so I don't have time to prepare much in the way of meals.
Preparation time for pumpkin soup = 15 mins
Preparation time for rye bread = > 5 mins (breadmaker)
If I'm hungry I grab a hand full of nuts, dates, slice of cheese, or fruit, preparation time = 0 mins
If I went the junk food route, I would have to go purchase the food, and this would take longer than the entire preparation time for my entire meal.
And because I made a lot of soup, I have tonights dinner already made, so today I have no preparation time, and a healthy , tasty meal to look forward to tonight.
spud- Re: How we became a society of glutt... tomato
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This is a reply to # 1,470,124MSG is greatly saved when good homecooking is given.
I love BBQ here don't you?
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- Re: How we became a society of glutt... telluride
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This is a reply to # 1,470,104Good article.....here's more
http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/141738
- Re: How we became a society of glutt... spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,470,587Interesting article, I can't help feeling that it panders to the victim mentality a little. If people are told its not their fault that they are fat, it absolves them of taking responsibility for their problem. What we should be saying to people is "if you make the choice to eat junk food and drink fizzy drinks, you are going to make yourself fat". Whatever is put in the food to make people want to eat it, doesn't take away the fact that people still make the choice to go to the restauants and pay for this food and eat it, knowing that it is bad for them.
Just as a drug addict chooses to use a drug knowing that it is bad for them. Addiction can be cured, but not without the addict taking responsibility for the choices they have made. Its just hard work, much harder than blaming someone else for the problem.
If parents want their kids to be healthy, stop buying rubbish for them to eat, learn to say no to your children, after all parents are fully responsible for what their children eat, and if the kids get fat, it is the parents fault.
spud- Re: How we became a society of glutt... telluride
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This is a reply to # 1,470,603I agree. We are responsible for our own health...no one else. It is our job to know what we are eating....no excuses....although it isn't easy with all the crap we are bombarded with. Some will just never get it.
- Re: How we became a society of glutt... spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,470,605Waiting around for the govt to stop the big bad food companies, while people just get fatter and fatter, is an exercise in futility. People will stop the big bad food companies, if they stop buying their crap. Its really very simple. Imagine how many good organic fruit and vege shops would start popping up if there was a demand for good food. It doesn't require a lot of lobby groups , petitions , blah blah blah. It requires basic education and honesty about what is in the food, (there has been a lot of this exposure happening already). I cannot believe that people still don't know that junk food is bad for you, the message is out there. People need to grow a backbone, and learn to say no. Why is this so hard for some people to understand.
In a consumer based society, if people stopped buying the rubbish, the food companies would have to change their methods and product or go bankrupt. Its not rocket science!
spud
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