A few things come to mind:

> Vitamin D status checked?

> Ozone (bagging technique) would make short course of this. But is a little expensive. Miracle-Mineral-Supplement could be of benefit.

> This almost looks like filariasis (but typically this is found in 3rd world countries but I would question that belief)

Hi, Robkos!

One thing that is sure to help, takes no expensive practitioner/s, and that you can likely afford is the ideas at the Ask Moreless Forum.

Please go there and ask your question again!

FREE information on how to use inexpensive, easily available stuff to heal things the docs and other experts have FAILED at. ALL free, NOTHING being sold there!

Hope to see you there soon!

Keep seeking, applying, sharing accurate knowledge in order to
Keep seeking abundant life and joy!

NEVER EVER GIVE UP!!!!

Di

27 months on the Moreless protocol, getting better every day!

What kind of ADL management evaluation has been done? What can/can't he do for himself? How compliant is he to performing regular hygeine? (His skin appears to be neglected, with the possibility of bacterial/fungal infections) How much physical activity is he able to perform? (He needs to physicaly MOVE AROUND to assist the drainage and promote healing) How regulated is his diet? What health/living assistance does he regularly receive from others?

Lordy, lord, lord...Ive seen this before. A friend of mine has diabetes and he doesnt take care of himself, either. He also was told hed have to have legs amputated. Anyway, I helped him get the swelling down. The first thing needed is get a 10 lb bucket of Dead Sea Mud. (I got mine off Ebay.) It will say facial mud but this will get the swelling down. Put the mud all over his legs. From the knees all the way down to bottom of his toes. The mud will draw the fluid out! When the mud dries completely rinse it off. Outside hose, sitting on side of tub, in shower...whatever. Do this several times a day. The more the better. Three times would be a good start. Now, Im not a distributor or anything but I use Miracle II soaps and neutralizer for many things. I used it on him. Washed him up w/the soap (let it soak in for a minute or so), did the mud pack and then finished off spraying him w/the neutralizer.

He was so bad one could barely see the tips of his toes. After the first mud pack, the whole toenail could be seen. We kept this up for a few weeks (off n on) and slowly but surely he was able to walk on his own again. The doctor was amazed when he went back and amputation was no longer an issue.

Just sharing what I did here. The mud is a definite must have! Miracle II soap and neutralizer? Whos too say... although this is what I used on him.

If youd like more information, please feel free to contact me. Good luck to you and your friend! Yes, there is always HOPE!

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I would think there would also need to be some kind of application of a light oil, or even something like castor oil, maybe only on certain areas.

These are straight guesses. I don't have any expertise at all.


Overall, it appears that something is getting in, and not getting out.


Some say that three days on juices is a healing experience. I don't know if that would help Greg, or not. I'd want to do that in combination with the baths, footbaths, or hand baths, I think.


Zdenko Domancic was given 300 cases of 'damp gangarene' to treat, as a Slovenian government/medical test of the effectiveness of his method.


In every case, he was able to prevent amputation of limbs, I am told.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-153936213309506589



I know these ways are difficult to accept if one hasn't thought of them before...but, if no one else can help, perhaps this is a way to try.

There are now over one hundred and fifty Domancic Method practitioners in the U.S.

www. healing bio energy .com (without spaces) is their URL.

My best, Greg and Robkos.

Fledgling

if I was in your shoes I would ask Andreas Moritz (www.ener-chi.com). He used to have a very good forum here years ago. He would probably put him in condition of being able to do liver flushes, which are as inexpensive as amazingly effective in treating any kind of diseases. I'm sure Moritz would agree to help him without charging too much money, given his conditions.

you can meanwhile educate yourself browsing these many forums, but such a degree of disease requires a knowledgable person leading the treatments, as you can't afford losing time in trial and error.

good luck!

Clearly this has advanced into a serious situation.
The tissue has entered the stage where its actually rotting.
"Lack of circulation" folks. No oxygen to the cells.
No oxygen to the cells equals death of the cells.
I'm guessing this man barely moves his body and drinks little to no water. And probably the diet is whatever he wants including microwaved frozen foods.
The first things I would do would be to get him moving and drinking water.
This might arrest the direction that this is heading.
From there the suggestion of the mud packs would be in order to get this reversed and after that of course there is a plethora of remedies that should be undertaken.
But first should be rock bottom basics - drink water and move the body to get the circulation going. Otherwise its not going to be good.

I notice his feet show toe nail fungus. This indicates Candida could be causing some of this.

Slowly build up (ionic) Colloidal Silver to at least 8 ounces per day. Take Probiotics also. You should also consider the (Beck Protocol) which uses Colloidal Silver . Ozonated (Beck Protocol) water will help with the die off.

http://www.silverpuppy.com/


http://www.drloyd.com/beckpapers.exe


Yes Morless's alkalizing drink would help greatly but I don't think it's the answer to everything under the sun. do not use the vinegar use the lemons as Candida likes vinegar.

The Moreless Alkalizing Drink


Here's a great alkalizing drink that can help
remineralise you quickly and cheaply!
This is an amazing power packed, mineral and nutrient
dense drink that will not only help to alkalize you, but
will give you loads of electrically charged energy! I've
been drinking this 2-3 times a day and I am a firm
believer!
Ingredients:
1. 1 tablespoon of blackstrap molasses (it must be
Unsulphured and ideally organic)
2. Juice of half a lemon (OR 1 tablespoon apple cider
vinegar if you can't take citrus or get hold of lemons)
3. 1 + tablespoon pickling lime water (= 1 tablespoon of
pickling lime powder, aka calcium hydroxide, diluted in
1 gallon of distilled water) *see safety notes below*
4. Small pinch of Epsom Salts
5. Norwegian kelp powder 1 + teaspoons
6. 1 glass of distilled, ionized or alkaline mineral
water (like Evian)
*** you can take a lot MORE pickling lime water and Kelp
than is suggested above. Start slow and if things don't
improve, slowly build up. Some of us use up to 20
tablespoons of pickling lime water and up to 2
tablespoons of kelp powder each time ***


The chemical reaction between the acid in the lemon
juice and the alkaline minerals in the mollases releases
energy into the body and makes the minerals more
bioavailable.

Method:
*Dissolve the blackstrap molasses and Epsom Salts in
warm water (leave to cool if desired)
*Add 1 (or more) tablespoons of pickling lime water
*Add the lemon or ACV (I sometimes add both) Add these
only when the drink has cooled down, you don't want to
destroy the enzymes or minerals
*Some people like to mix their kelp in with their drink,
some just put the kelp straight into their mouths
Special note on the kelp!: Most people find the taste
absolutely vile because, in my opinion .... it is!!! -
it may help to moisten it and your mouth first so you
don't gag! Some people use a straw to bypass the taste.
But this really is an essential part of the drink and is
packed with loads of minerals and complex carbohydrates,
so do what you need to do to get it down! And yes, kelp
is available in capules, but the powder is much cheaper.

(This is an edit .. after several months of taking the
kelp powder, it no longer tastes so vile! I am becoming
immune to the taste - hooray!)
... And drink!

If you are chronically ill: I suggest you start with
with just a teaspoon of kelp and a tablespoon of the
pickling lime water along with all the other
ingredients. Over time, start building up on both those
ingredients until you can manage 2-3 teaspoons of kelp
and 2-4 tablespoons of the picking lime water in each
drink. You don't have to drink it all at once, you can
also sip it over a few hours.
When someone has been chronically ill for a while, a
drink like this might create a powerful reaction and
start to release acids from organs and tissues too
quickly, that is why I am suggesting you start slow.
(Better to aim for minimal discomfort while you begin to
rebuild your health)
Can you make a batch in advance?
You can mix the Blackstrap Molasses, pickling Lime water
and kelp together without the Lemon juice or the ACV and
keep this cool - then add the ACV or Lemon juice just
before drinking. The batch should be ok for a day, but
not longer than two days. Fresh is best!
Heath Notes:
*Please use organic where you can!
*Blackstrap molasses must be unsulphured. Sulphur is
acid forming.
*If using apple cider vinegar, buy organic and
unpasteurised (*with mother*) so full of active enzymes.
Otherwise, just find a good source of unpasteurised ACV.
*Pickling lime is normally found in the pickling/canning
section of shops. Your alternative is to buy calcium
hydroxide powder and put 1 tablespoon of the powder in 1
gallon of distilled water and use that as your pickling
lime solution.
*Buy food grade Epsom Salts .
*Kelp is apparently purest from Norway, and it is better
if it is finely powdered.
*If you are very acidic, you can also add a pinch of
epsom salts or a tablespoon of ACV with a tablespoon of
pickling lime water to your normal glasses of water (the
pickling lime provides calcium by the way).

I've been happily drinking the above 2-3 times a day.
And it has a buzz to it!
To keep your mineral reserves up, to every glass of
water throughout the day, you may also add a tablespoon
of pickling lime water (plus a dash of lemon or ACV)
The Moreless alkalizing drink is basically a very cheap
and effective method of creating alkalinity and is NOT
meant as a substitue for a wholesome diet with complex
carbs as is found in foods like green veges. The drink
is basically a method to get us more alkaline quicker,
but it is NOT the way to become alkaline totally, that
takes some effort!

What Moreless is presenting people here are various
options. Not everyone is prepared or able to go all the
way with eating right. So he is giving people easy and
cheap ways to kick start their healing whilst finding
their way at improving their diet, which will in turn be
the most important part of their healing. The kelp and
molasses are packed full of minerals that may be
difficult for people to find in the foods that are
available to them right now.
Moreless on the alkalizing drink: HERE
The Epsom salts, pickling lime water, lemon juice or ACV
create the electrical energy so that our bodies can make
the best use of the minerals.


** SAFETY NOTES ON CALCIUM HYDROXIDE ** (For those who
can't get hold of the pickling lime water.)
CALCIUM HYDROXIDE (also known as - pickling lime
water/Ca(OH)2/slaked lime/biocalc/lime water etc.)

In concentrated powdered form, this stuff is a skin, eye
and respiratory irritant. It is CORROSIVE and causes
burns. Should you be using this concentrated form to
dilute with water before use, please protect yourself by
wearing safety glasses, gloves and minimize your
exposure to the dust itself.
There are no safety issues if you buy the pre made
pickling lime water.

Remember, the drink asks for 1 (to 4) tablespoon of the
diluted lime water - you take 1 tablespoon of the powder
and add it to a gallon of water. You do NOT add the
powder directly to your drink!

This powder is also incompatable with strong acids! So,
the more acidic you are the smaller your dose should be!
Start small and slow, and add more after checking your
response. We are all unique, so someone else's ideal
doseage may not be the same as yours.

My suggestion is to make up your solution outdoors. This
powder is very fine and fluffy, it'd be easy to
accidently spill some on your kitchen or bathroom floor
for unsuspecting kids and pets to walk on.

More useful information about Calcium Hydroxide here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_hydroxide



The following is as good a description of calcium
hydroxide as I can find (albeit it relating to use in
aquariums, but surely applicable when considering human
consumption):

"A preferred method of calcium supplementation comes in
the form of calcium hydroxide, known as "kalkwasser" to
reef aquarists. Calcium hydroxide has a chemical formula
of Ca(OH)2, in other words, it supplies one Ca+2 ion for
every two OH- ions. Calcium hydroxide can be mixed at
approximately 2 teaspoons [5.7g Ca(OH)2] per gallon (or
1.5g/L) of filtered freshwater to attain approximately
800mg/L calcium solution to be dripped slowly into the
reef aquarium. A beneficial side effect of using calcium
hydroxide is that the OH- (hydroxide) ions maintain the
pH of the aquarium by neutralizing acids present in the
aquarium, thereby helping to maintain (but not build)
the alkalinity in the aquarium. One could use pickling
lime, which is also calcium hydroxide. Unfortunately,
pickling lime tends to have visible amounts of
impurities in it."

Smile Tis your choice.

What comes to my mind
the advertisement that comes on late at night for a lawyer
office.

the advertisement asking people the dye they dranked to help show up problems on MRI Testing Machine.


The advertisement asked do you have these 3 symptoms:
bla bla bla...


I wonder if this could fall into that category?

Did they rule out cellulitis as well? It looks a lot like it. Also is he diabetic?

A few things I recommend to begin with are lymphatic and adrenal support herbs for the fluid accumulation. For the lymphatic system I recommend red root (New Jersey tea, ceanothus). For the adrenals I would go with jiaogulan, and schisandra berries. Good sources of vitamin C is also very important. Watercress, amla berry, or acerola cherry are my choices here. Vitamin C is going to be important for not only adrenal function but also for stabilizing the blood vessels.

The herb butcher's broom is also highly recommended for both its circualtion enhancing properties and silica content for strengthening the blood vessels.

Ozone bagging is HIGHLY recommended. You can sometimes find inexpensive corona discharge units on Ebay that will work.

If he is diabetic this will have to be addressed as well as elevated insulin levels in diabetes reduce circulation and damage micro blood vessels leading to problems such as gangrene.

If you can get back to me with a PM and let me know about the cellulitis and diabetes questions.

get some bulk herbs at the health food store or coop as these are cheap or if you can't find, get them online by typing bulk herbs and the herb you want into the search engine. for best results, use organic or wildcrafted herbs as these are 7-10 times higher in the pytochemicals that cure and prevent disease

For example the first herb in the formula below is plantain
for your info, plantain (the weed is what you want not the banana} grows all over many states in lawns and park lawns. If you can find some not by highways and polluted these would be wildcrafted and free. You can tincture fresh or dry them


But let;s say you cant find them growing free and are buying online type into Google or yahoo the following words

plantain organic bulk herbs

you could also use wildcrafted bulk herbs plantain

if you just want an ounce or 4 ounces type that in the line as well.

repeat with each herb you need but back to the problem.


first take this formula for lymph infections

http://www.herballegacy.com/Lymphatic.html


I looked up the formula in his book school of natural healing

it is 4 parts plantain
4 parts Black-Walnut
4 parts goldenseal
2 parts bugle weed
1 part marshmallow root
1 part lobelia

if given a choice chose cut and sifted herbs over powder.

Dr Christopher --master herbalist and father of modern herbology --says it kills infection, clears toxins from the lymph system. and is a natural infection fighter.

take 2 capsules 3 times a day or make a tea, put about 1/2 spoon in a tea ball and pour boiling water over it

or best yet make a tincture as these can be easily taken by the dropperfuls (for people weighing 150 take 2 dropperfuls 3-5 times a day) if you weight 300 take 4 dropperfuls 3-5 tines a day if he weighs 450 pounds then take 6 dropperfuls 3-5 times a day..figure his dose by using Clark's rule and his weight

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for him I would also double the dose on the capsules and tea as he needs more as he is overweight..use clarks rule but

first best way to take herbs internally is a tincture
2nd best a tea (use distilled water as it is empty and extracts more pytochemcials that help you)
last and least effective--capsules

tinctures are easily absorbed and capsules are not..plus the tincture alcohol extracts more of the helpful chemical the tea more than the capsules

also definitely do several of the things recommended for gangrene which help blood poisoning..plaintain is good and grows right outside most doors and in parks or marshmallow root..I will put a link below.


I can mail you the links to schulze's incurables program which might be best but can be expensive but at least you can see how easy it is to make tinctures.
the videos and manuals may be of help and will teach you so much and give you hope.

I save about 90% making my own and they are much better than most tinctures on the market..be sure to use at least 50-75% herbs and the rest the 80 or 100 proof vodka and let herbs soak in the alcohol shaking daily for at least 2 weeks..make sure when it settle the herbs are in the bottom 1/2 to 2/3 to be potent enough. herbpharm is also a brand I like

My mother had raging infections in her legs caused by an MRI pulling shrapnel from her bones...she had tons of it in her bones from stepping on a land mine like 50 years previously during the war and the doctors assured her nothing would happen and the MRI would not affect the metal in her bones or pull it out..

they were wrong -- the magnets of the MRI pulled some of the metal from her bones to her flesh and her legs got very infected. Nothing the doctors gave her helped. I put cayenne fomentations (cloth put into cayenne tea and wrung out and left them on for hours redoing it when they got cold and using them warm to hot but not hot even to burn you) but the next day all her infection was gone. (aside her comment to me was..."must have been something the doctors did" ..she never believed me even though everything I recommended always worked and often what the doctors said messed her up.) This should help his circulation plus it will be absorbed into the bloodstream and help him in various ways. Since cayenne is a catalyst herb, anything you take it with work better and gets to the cells/organs better.

So you might try that..also take cayenne internally while doing it as it helped the circulation..take circulation herbs like butcher's broom or horse chestnut.

If you like I can see if I can find some of his gangrene formulas and recopy them here or email them to you..let me know

poor guy..I feel for him..

not sure what kind of mental issue he has but you might get these books and read them and get some ideas for things that might help

1 seven weeks to emotional healing

2 change your Brain change your life

3 feeling good if this applies or if he is depressed.

check the library or inter-library loan to get the books or amazon
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Also read the books of Peter Breggin like toxic psychiatry get him on high doses (3000 to 6000 mg) of fish oil and eat more omega three fat like canned or wild caught (not farm raised) salmon, mackerel, sardines or herring, raw walnuts, flax seeds and flax seed oil and/or chia seeds (salba) a supoerfood that has about 2700 mg per tbs and mixes well and without taste to most foods.

Get him on a good healthy Diet that reduces omega six fats and trans fats.

I recommend a vegan diet or no more than 10% animal products (organic) and a all or mainly all raw diet (say 80-85%) and a whole food diet.

here are suggestions for anemia

http://www.herballegacy.com/Anemia.html


also he needs to try to walk some increasing a little every day and do lots of deep abdominal breathing maybe some chair exercises and he should take cayenne and at least three raw garlic cloves a day to help his circulation and reduce plague on his arteries and veins and also take ginger tea from fresh ginger or ginger tincture to help the capillaries.

Only exercise helps the lymph moves as it has no pump like the blood does..you rest you rust Schulze always said..also use hot and cold showers on the legs and compresses..one thing that best moves the lymph is using a mini trampoline (rebounder)..maybe if he bounces up and down on one a little holding on to something that would help the lymph better circulate. for now put one by a wall or handle or door or something that he can hang on so he doesn't fall.

here is how to do the hot/cold showers

Hot and Cold Showers: (the most effective way to move the blood and create circulation ) Once daily, you must do a complete hot and cold shower. You will start with hot water for 1 minute, then cold for 1 minute. Re-peat this 7 times so the shower should last about 15 minutes. Another time, daily, you can do a complete hot and cold shower routine again or a partial one just applying the water directly to the affected area. Make sure while you are doing both hot and cold showers that you pay special attention to the affected area and massage it vigorously. If the shower is impossible then use Hot packs and Ice packs alternating them put plastic over the hot ones with a heating pad to hold in the heat.

Finally he must do bowel cleansing and he must use herbdoc.com for intestinal cleanse one and two as he needs these industrial strength herbs or if he absolutely cannot afford email me and I will give you the formulas so you can make your own which would be 2nd best if you use organic bulk herbs.

I did get results making my own and read Dr Bernard Jensen (Dr Schulze's teacher and so was Dr Christopher) his book bowel cleansing..he has pictures of people's legs very similar to your friend and he said when the bowel is filthy and not cleaned as it almost always is on people who eat a lot, eat bad foods or eat cooked foods, the skin tries to detoxify the body by using the skin as a third bowel and getting the waste out that way,...he shows the feet legs originally and day by day its healings when nothing else had worked so do that

I would also cleanse other elimination organs like doing a kidney-bladder cleanse, liver-gall bladder and blood cleansing (see the Schulze tab here on curezone for how to do these cleanses and what the products like the detox formula for blood cleansing do and buy these products at herbdoc.com -Schulze's site. Gently use a natural bristle brush all over the body brushing toward the heart prior to the hot/cold shower would be good and be sure to focus the shower wand to the legs and other sick areas.

Also do hot saunas to sweat out the toxins helping them not need to use the legs/skin ot get out of the body.

I think I would also drink some raw apple cider vinegar in water at each meal and get him on a low glycemic diet

I think you are getting good advice here and bless you for helping the guy..I pray god will help him and you to help him..blessings :)

Ever take his urine pH, I would be interested what it was!

I updated my message above a little if you want to reread it