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Hello Tracey
Sorry to be a pest, if you get a chance soon please look at my friend's and my chart, our relationship has reached crisis point.
Many thanks.
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Sounds like intense relationship times. (me too - and many others too - what with Pluto opposing Venus it has been time to either let a relationship die or transform it and deepen it. Either way the energy is dramatic, intense, challenging and transformative)
Have you had overly-idealistic feelings towards this guy? Did something happen, or did he do something that kind of shocked you out of this dreamy idealism?
Let me know if this is at all correct before I go on...
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Hi Tracey
Yes perhaps i do have an overly-idealistic view of this person and i protect him from everything and everyone as he does for me. The last couple of weeks have been so intense but so contraditory. He's told me he would take me and the children and love and cherish us always but he also has times of being so detached and avoids me lie the plague. I want to carry on dispite the difficulties, i'm sure our relationship is extremely transformational, just when i feel like giving up on it i am compelled to hold on in there!
Please help, i feel a life changing few months are ahead of us.
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Hi Lorraine...
I wish I could be more help. I'm just not feeling very plugged in these days, unfortunately - and Relationship astrology isn't my strong point.
Your relationship with this guy seems difficult by the looks of your chart. It has an exciting unpredictable energy to it (that even if you think you don't want this...you do actually seek it out)...but it also has a heavy Saturnian influence too. Like the two of you were lovers in a past life that was pretty difficult - you both need to heal the other for things done in the past. You both have Saturn conjunct the other's Venus...very karmic and it's not all lightness! It can feel quite restricting. Strange - the feeling I'm getting is all exciting, unpredictable, spontaneous on the outside but heavy and restricting on the inside.
I guess I can never reeeally see into Relationships because they're just sooo complex - what's affecting her? who is she? What's affecting him? Who is he? What's affecting THEM as a couple? eiy eiy eiy. I don't know if the next few months are going to be rough or not (a better astrologer might!)...the only transit that I see that is challenging for you is, well, Saturn transiting through the 12th house (karmic house) and squaring (challenging) the Emotional Relationship (moon in Libra) and where your soul wants to go (north node) in this lifetime.
hmmm....sounds like this is all about you (of course!)...and your relationship with this man is happening just exactly as it should. Sounds like you need to clear up some karma with him and move towars a totally stable relationship that supports you emotionally and is based on Sharing and Coupledom....this is where your soul wants to go! It is comfortable in this more independent Individual place...but you need to go towards this good harmonious relationship (I don't feel this relationship is harmonious for you and that's what you need). But you're also going to have to integrate that desire for newness and originality and spontaneousness that you have....with your Self within Relationships - that is the key! Really, your whole chart is about finding a balance within a Relationship. Because you have this Inner wild woman (soooo original!) you will attract men to you that aren't into something totally stable. So your task is to integrate the Independence/Dependence SuperFreedom/Lovingness within yourself...
hmmm...You've just started a new phase of Action and Energy with Mars in your first house now....so whatever is up it looks like you will totally be able to handle it...it's a pretty strong transit. Just remember to keep your cool and don't lose your head.
Wish I could reeeally help Lorraine!
love Tracey
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This is a reply to # 139,645Think you've hit the nail on the head with this one Tracey :(. He is now pulling away and i'm pushing him to make a decision and i know im hurting him so much because he wants to do what is right and that is to let me stay in a stable marriage. He has absolutely nothing to offer me apart from love and excitement and i suppose i should grow up now - finally! It's so hard he is my husband's best friend so he is torn between us and has cried many tears over this situation. Perhaps i should send him unconditional love and let that side of our relationship die, i haven't been physical with him, i dont want to do that to my husband but it's been such a battle.
Thanks Tracey, i will meditate on releasing old karma and rebuilding a once close and loving relationship with him again.
Hope all is well with you.
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This is a reply to # 139,652Lorraine,
Wow - you are in the middle of intense feelings all round! It sounds as though you are becoming clearer which is great. Stay strong and clear...
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Hi Tracey
My email to you strangly turned up in my inbox last night and my husband read it - what an act of divine intervention. Day of tears, including my friend who refuses to speak to me but has spent time with my husband discussing what a lunatic i am - slightly unfair in the circumstances but he has to prove his own innocence. I wonder if that is our karma from old lives dealt with now. Feel very shaky and tearful, betrayed as well but i suppose my two men do too.
Starting a new job tomorrow, thank God, something to get my teeth into and perhaps use my energies elsewhere.
Thanks for all your help and good wishes, i'll keep you posted.
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This is a reply to # 139,660Holy @#$%!
Woah. That is pretty darn crazy isn't it? Wow. Verrrry intense. You know what is, astrologically, wild? Yesterday was the day when the Sun in Cancer was exactly sitting on top of Saturn in Cancer - shining light on the hardness and challenging stuff that Saturn brings (past life, karma stuff too! life lessons etc - the structure we've built around ourselves - walls too!)...and, of course, since your Moon is in Libra and your North Node (where you soul wants to go in this lifetime) is at 16degrees in Libra too - the Sun/Saturn in Cancer was squaring almost exactly your Libra planets! Holy challenging! But....a much needed dose of reality...so that stuff gets out in the open and you don't feel you're between a rock and a hard place...release from the limiting (saturnian) circumstance you've been in. Difficult? Yes!! My heart goes out to you....situations like this are soooo heavy-duty!
Well....from here I hope you all heal and become stronger and truer to your values (pluto/venus transit!)....and, for you, this seems like a really positive catalyst to catapult you towards the harmony, beauty, love that you need to experience...(somehow, some way!!)
much love to you Lorraine!
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Lorraine...I was just in the bath (receptive water!) when it dawned on me that what I saw in your chart the first time I replied to you (and the 2nd as well) about 'did something surprising happen...?' hadn't happened yet...but it sure did last night.
You see Mars, transiting your first house (important house of Self and how others see you) was just about to sit atop your Uranus in your first house...this is a pretty intense aspect (assertive even 'violent' surprises - 'expect the unexpected' basically is that motto!)...and, the whole lot was opposing your Natal Sun in the relationship house. Oppositions are always about Relationships.....so, yes, the energies were encouraging this to happen. It needed to happen...
I hope you are doing well today after such a reality shift...
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This is a reply to # 139,662This: Did something happen, or did he do something that kind of shocked you out of this dreamy idealism?
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Oh Tracey, thanks for all your thoughts and caring.
The thing that shocked me most was the way he told my husband everything after i'd defended his honour despite the outcome to me. He was a little economical with the truth as well, just tried to save his own skin and 'to hell with me' so to speak. He said that he was the injured party and blamed me for him losing his job after barrackading himself in his flat for three days after the 'stress' i caused him. He omitted to add how much he had led me on in the first place so took the cowards way out. Ah well - you live and learn.
Right now i feel as though my entire body is filled with ice, i swing between crying and drifting off by watching mindless t.v. My husband has been a tower of strength despite the pain he is obviously in. He knows i'm always searching for that missing something elsewhere (mainly in being accepted by men) but he also said that it's there already, in myself - just got to learn how to find it heh?!
Thanks again, you're a wonderful comfort.
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This is a reply to # 139,664Lorraine....well your husband sounds like a very wise man!
Ouch, though...regarding how the other one acted. argh...Yes, this experience will be logged and remembered for next time!
Starting in the summer of 2005 this aspect that your husband is talking about (and that you feel - that searching) will be anchored (right now it's just flyin' out there) because Saturn (a good thing in your case!) will start a brand new 30 year phase of inner lessons...and when it starts that new phase by crossing over into your 1st house (your personality and how others see you) it will sit upon your Uranus (that thirst for NEWness thing in you) and anchor that energy...bring it more into your SELF instead of seeking it outside yourself. Exactly what your husband said. So that is summer of 2005....and in September 2005 it conjoins your Uranus exactly...and starts a 2 year dance anchoring this energy.
So that is positive! Right now Saturn has entered your 12thouse so there is a lot of tidying up to do for you this year! Letting go of old outworn things that have hung around your psyche for too long...it's a total 'endings' year....not beginnings. So sweep out your Consciousness and get ready for the new learning phase that starts next year...
And I hope the iciness you're feeling (oooh I can feel it too!!!) warms up sooon...
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This is a reply to # 139,665Thanks Tracey!
Started my new job this morning, just nipped home for lunch, so have plenty to occupy my mind today. No iceiness now, just numb. :(
Speak soon.
Much love, Lorraine
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