P&B timing, Flax as alternative 
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I have read on the forum that P&B should be taken on an empty stomach. Can someone help me define “empty,” please? i.e., is there any specific time frame - how long before a meal, or after a meal? And, I'm doing a parasite cleanse using ParaGone along with P&B - ParaGone's directions say either 30 min before a meal or 3 hrs after. I wonder about the coord between ParaGone and P&B? Could I take them at the same time 30 min before a meal? (Started P&B while fasting, so I didn’t worry about an empty stomach – now that I’m eating again, I want to make sure I’m getting the most out of the program.)
Also, I had a dialogue with PTree regarding substituting flax fiber for psyllium – thanks for your response. You stated, basically, that flax was a good thing, but not a substitute for psyllium during a cleanse. I was wondering if you could expand just a bit. Just exactly what is it that psyllium does for you that flax doesn't? The women at the neighborhood health food store are very high on flax instead of P. They say flax is a whole lot easier to handle, doesn't require near the amount of water in order to do it's thing without becoming clogged up... I'm not sure they’re really "up" on cleansing, so I'm interested in your advice more than theirs, but I would appreciate a little more clarification on the diff between the two.
Thanks!- Re: P&B timing, Flax as alternat... Southern Belle
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MoreThis is a reply to # 131,511Hi James!
An interesting post. I am curious to read the responses to this, too.
Thanks for sharing.
Paulette- Re: P&B timing, Flax as alternat... deedee
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This is a reply to # 131,512I have been taking the P&B shakes one hour before or two hours after a meal. I take many vitamins especially in the morning, and don't want them absorbed by the shake. I would say that when using the Paragone, you may want to take that before the P&B to be sure it gets into your system.
Also, my understanding of PTree's reccomendation on psyllium vs. flax is that psyllium is better at
"sweeping" out the junk form the intestine wall. Hopefully she will clarify more for you, though!
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- Re: P&B timing, Flax as alternat... UserX
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This is a reply to # 131,511The issue of flax vs. psyllium is a matter of the type of fiber that it is...psyllium is a soluble fiber meaning that it absorbs a lot of water and then gels and expands. Flax is a combination soluble/insoluble fiber...it doesn't absorb nearly as much water and also doesn't expand like the psyllium...hence it doesn't produce the same degree of sweeping action that the psyllium does. Flax is good as a general fiber source, but not nearly as effective for most people as a colon cleanser.
Coordinatng different cleansing along with eating can get tricky because of the timing. As a general rule don't take the shakes within an hour of herbs, medications, supplements, etc. If you're doing more than one type of cleanse at a time it usually requires working out a schedule and following it real closely. In some cases this can be reason enough to do one cleanse at a time.- Re: P&B timing, Flax as alternat... James
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MoreThis is a reply to # 131,545Thanks. I'm only doing colon cleanse, I think - ParaGone for parasites is part of a colon cleanse, right? Anyway, I'm just taking ParaGone, as recommended by you, P&B, and a clean diet. So, can I take the ParaGone and P&B at the same time, approx 1/2 to 1 hour before a meal and/or 2 - 3 hours after a meal? Or is a different spacing recommended?
- Re: P&B timing, Flax as alternat... Tracey
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This is a reply to # 131,556Hi James...if we're getting technical here you're doing a parasite Cleanse (paragone) and a Bowel Cleanse (B&P). You can't take the paragone and the b&p at the same time. That's why it gets complicated and you might want to do the paragone after the Bowel Cleanse (way easier to schedule!) You have to take the paragone at least an hour away from the B&P and the paragone has to be half an hour away from food.
Hope that helps!
T- Re: P&B timing, Flax as alternative James
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This is a reply to # 131,573This helps. Exactly what I needed to know. Now, if I've been doing B&P for 18 days or so, do you suppose that's enough, and I could stop it and go with just ParaGone for the remainder of it's program?
- Re: P&B timing, Flax as alternative UserX
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This is a reply to # 131,668My first Colon Cleanse lasted about 6 months and I've done them for a couple of months at a time since then. You're the only one that can decide when it's best to stop....are you still passing a significant quantity of mucoid plaque? If yes...or if you haven't seen any yet....stick with the shakes for a while.
- Flax Seeds vs. Psyllium ledgar
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This is a reply to # 131,669Someone wrote that Psyllium is better for cleaning out the intestines BECAUSE it's a soluble fiber -- he added "which expands" as the basis for it being better.
This is totally backwards. It's NOT as good as flax seeds (ground of course) BECAUSE it's soluble.
Flax seeds are a combination of both soluble and insoluble fibers -- plus a good source of Omega 3's.
Soluble Fiber can be digested (because it's soluble) and enters into the blood stream where it helps to lower blood cholesterol and slows absorption time of glucose into
the blood stream, thus lowering blood Sugar levels too.
INSOLUBLE FIBER cannot be broken down, so it remains as an undigested fiber when passing through the intestines and thus cleanses the colon (and other areas of the intestines).
You can do a search online for "soluble fiber" and "insoluble fiber." There are MANY sites that explain the differences between the two. But it's the INSOLUBLE FIBER in flax seeds that makes
them better for cleansing -- once again because it's insoluble and itself is not digested. And it contains the very beneficial soluble fiber & omega-3 fatty acids as well. Good stuff!
I like to put them in health shakes or yogurt because they're too hard mixed in just water, and they hurt my throat.
They must be ground up, otherwise the seeds will pass through whole without providing any benefits. And once ground, store them in a container in the fridge.
You can purchase them bulk at most health food stores as well as Market Street United for about a buck a pound. I only take 2 Tbls. a day, and it's recommended
that you never go over 4 Tbls. per day. Do a search on flax seeds to find out more about this.
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