when you say that my liver might not have a lot in it to get out, really scares me and hurts me. The reason it makes me feel this way is because how can all my ill health conditions occur if I have a healthy liver?? If my liver is not the problem then I don't know what it is that is causing my health problems! After explaining my symptoms to doc he said that I have the classic signs of liver congestion. Also after reading andreas moritz book I learned that all my health issues were described in his book as being signs of liver congestion. After learning this I was extremely relieved and happy that there is hope for me to regain my health, and that would be to decongest my liver. Can you imagine how I feel now that I am hearing that my liver might not be congested! If not my liver then what in the world can cause my ill health symptoms?? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate all the advice you are giving me, but I am feeling so sad and down right now. The thought of never regaining my health and have my ill health symptoms go away scares me to death, because my life has pretty much come to a halt since I believe I lost my health.

You know I felt the same as you jr81 because I did two flushes were I did not see any stones and I was on a course to never do them again... until I found Dr Sutter's site. I know you must be feeling pretty low, without having to deal with anything else, chronic illness makes you feel pretty low and liver problems from what I have researched make us feel angery and irritable. Also you have put so much effort into getting well and that is what you want to see RESULTS, NOW....so you are bound to be feeling a bit POO...for want of a better word....though appropriate on this occasion.

It's hard to have trust, if like myself you have been trying to get better for years and you have put your trust in people before and done everything that you were supposed to and got even worse. I did the Garson Therapy for 3 months...3 coffee enemas a day, 10 glass's of carrot juice a day and a real restricted diet....you can imagine the disappointment, when I realised it wasn't working for me, the effort I had put in, my life revolved around preparing the juice and coffee enemas and my friend who had cured herself of breast cancer with this therapy could not believe that it wasn't helping me. Last year I met a women on the internet who had been cured of Endometriosis by a women who deals in alternative medicine and she told me that this women had got her well in 3 visits and that she would definitely do the same for me. The practitioner was really expensive and I do not have a lot of money....I was so desperate that I borrowed the money, which I am still paying back and visited this practitioner 6 times on the other side of the country and she told me she could definitely get me better, at the end when I was getting no better she said it maybe a bit harder than she first thought because she was sure I had Liver Fluke...I couldn't afford another penny and decided to research the Liver Fluke...I don't know if you can begin to imagine the disappointment.

I know what you mean about dealing with poo and worms and horrible stuff that the average person would not even have to think about...there are things on this journey of trying to find health that I have done that I would never in a million years dreamed that I would do.... like....wait for it DRINK MY OWN PISS....at the beginning I was gagging....and guess what....IT DIDN'T WORK FOR ME...why would I do that....drink my own pee...well I found a book on the internet written by a women, who had cured herself of Endometriosis, after years of pain and surgery, she had her life back, she had tried everything else and nothing had worked and this had worked and when I read it I cried....here was my answer....It didn't work for me....it had worked for her and it didn't work for me. However like the other treatment before that didn't work I was able to take something from it....like the last one were I had been told that I might have Liver Fluke....this one...Drinking my own pee helped me to learn what things that pee can do, a while after reading the book I was bitten my a mosquito and it swelled up which is another problem that I have...I have learned that this is because my body is too acidic and because I do not absorb my food I have a lack of some vitamins like B vit, this is why I have such a problem with Mossy Bites. So I have learned a lot and I learned that puting a cloth soaked in pee on a swollen bite will make it go down and heal it...some people would just not do this but I think that it is worth it, to not have to have taken something for the bite that would have ulltimitally damage my health further.


What I am saying is this I am no better now than when I started this journey of refusing more surgery and trying to heal myself six years on.....I have days were I feel frustrated,lonely,hopeless,despiring,sad and out right anger...hope I have not left anything out there but I also realise that I don't really have a chose but to keep searching and to keep trying...I know that it may sound traumatic but I feel like I am fighting for my life and the life of my son...I don't even mean that in terms of dying, I mean it in terms of being able to LIVE, REALLY LIVE....play with my son....go out with friends, have a glass of wine if I choose to...JUST ENJOY LIFE AGAIN...so I keep on trying, what else can I do, Like most people here I have tried the conventional root....I was with my dad when he lost his fight for life at the age of 56, riddled with cancer, neither of us got what we needed from traditional medicine, so what chose do I have....If I have to drink my own piss like thousands of other human beings have tried to do....SO BE IT! and if I have to look in the toilet bowel 'HORRIBLE' I know but if it gets me closer to being healthy I will do it.

I do trust Dr Sutter...as much as I can at this point in my life...because he has been through this he was ill and he knows what that is like...I don't think he would give people hope like this if he really did not believe it himself....i think that he is a very giving person and that says a lot about a person to me....however I also think that not everything works for everyone...here I hope he proves me wrong....NOW THAT WOULD BE GREAT!!

I feel for you I really do and I want you to know that you are not on your own here and that its OK to have a good moan about it....sorry for going on that's my own therapy I think.

Love Moonie