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Blueduck
23 y
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Re: third flush.......to Blueduck Hermit
23 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 126,506I don't use olive oil for frying. In fact I don't eat anything fried except an occasional egg now and
then. I have tried it on eggs in the past, but I use butter when I do eat eggs. I will drizzle it on
salmon and then bake it, or put it on some lamb chops and bake them. It is good in pasta sauces to. I can't remember where I
read it but olive oil is not a good oil to use for frying foods and consuming fried foods are not
good for the body. They are very hard to digest for most people.
I think the olive oil gives the food a good flavor. I will mix about a tablespoon of olive oil with a 1/2 to 1 teaspoon of apple cider vinegar for salad dressing. I have used in in making corn bread with no taste of the oil. Olive oil is one of the few good fats that one can consume.
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- Re: third flush.......to Hermit Blueduck
23 y
3,613
This is a reply to # 126,513Hermit,
I am scared to eat butter because I think it could bring on another gall bladder attack. I am scared of red meat for the same reason. I have not tried to mix up my own salad dressing using olive oil, but maybe I will! I just do not want to taste it, since doing the cleanses I can hardly stand even the smell of it. I have had no fried foods in over a month and I guess I won't be having any. Thanks for your response.
Blueduck- Re: third flush.......to Blueduck Hermit
23 y
3,607
This is a reply to # 126,536One more question for you Blueduck. I think it was you that mentioned that you
drank some chinese tea a few weeks before you did your liver cleanse. If it was
you, what is the tea? What is in it? Maybe it was something in the tea that helped to
prepare your system before the cleanse that allowed you to get good results.- Re: third flush.......to Hermit Blueduck
23 y
3,661
MoreThis is a reply to # 126,546Hermit,
I have been drinking just plain old green tea, which I got from my wonderful chinese herbal/accupuncture doctor. She said to drink 2 or 3 cups every day. This was when I was taking the chinese patent medicine, Shi Lin Tong. I am done with the medicine, but still drink the tea. The Shi Lin Tong is to help pass stones, both gall bladder and kidney stones.
Blueduck
- Re: third flush.......to Hermit Blueduck
23 y
3,661
- Re: third flush re. butter paint lady
23 y
3,577
This is a reply to # 126,536Funny how different things cause different people these attacks. The last one I had was caused by a chocolate pastry with coffee at barnes and nobles. I was breaking my diet so I blamed it on my being bad. Had no idea it was the gallbladder. I never had one after eating butter despite eating butter several times a week. However I understand your fear. If I thought chocolate would cause an attack I wouldn't ever eat chocolate again. I still don't know why it affected me that one time.
Take care,
Lisa- Re: third flush re. butter...to pain... Blueduck
23 y
3,747
This is a reply to # 126,556paint lady,
I do not know for sure if butter will cause me to have an attack. I just know that I read that fat can cause an attack and assumed that included butter.....and I love butter but cannot chance it ! I love chocolate too and have not had even a taste for over a month. I really do not miss the fats..I just tell myself to remember how it felt sitting in the ER having the doctor tell me that he wanted to admit me and do immediate gall bladder surgery.
Blueduck - Re: third flush re. butter Fil
23 y
3,504
This is a reply to # 126,556Lisa, it might have been the coffee. I've had mini attacks after causing coffee. Coffee is a bile stimulant so maybe that's why!
- Re: third flush re. butter...to pain... Blueduck
23 y
3,747
- Re: third flush.......to Blueduck Hermit
23 y
3,607
- Re: third flush.......to Hermit Blueduck
23 y
3,613
- Re: third flush.......to glenna glenna
23 y
3,704
This is a reply to # 126,498I used cold pressed from GNC, don't know if commercial would behave differently.
- Re: third flush.......to glenna Blueduck
23 y
3,552
This is a reply to # 126,501I got my oil from a grocery store. The GNC store here leaves much to be desired. I don't know if it makes any difference where the oil comes from, as long as its extra virgin and cold pressed. Just my own thoughts,
Blueduck
- Re: third flush.......to glenna Blueduck
23 y
3,552
This is a reply to # 126,462
Well, by now you are almost through and getting results. I certainly hope so. You deserve it!I will be checking back today to see what happened.
Good luck and good health to you, my friend!
- Re: third flush.....Southern Belle Blueduck
23 y
3,620
This is a reply to # 126,479Southern Belle,
I will never use the Epsom Salts again. I drank it at 6 and 8 PM and by just after ten I was running to the bathroom every ten minutes to let out brown water. I got almost no sleep and my stomach felt awful and still does this morning. I was nauseous all night and sniffed oil of peppermint, which seemed to help. I have passed about 20 very small stones this morning. I just cannot believe how awful I felt all night. Do you ever feel this rotten? Today I feel like a dish rag too. Do you use the Epsom Salts ? Does ANYONE use the Epsom Salts ?????? Please feel free to jump in here and tell me if you use the epsom salts....and how it affects you. Thanks !
Blueduck- Re: third flush.....Southern Belle #161678
23 y
3,673
This is a reply to # 126,495I also had trouble after taking the Epsom Salt just like you said. This is the Clark-flush we're talking about. You can try other methods with no epsom salt, please check out this web site, it has at least 3 different methods listed. I also suggest a preparation for the flushes cure that has helped me before my third flush: kidney cleanse, parasite cleanse and Chinese herbs from www.sensiblehealth.com - I actually visited this lady's store here in Toronto and that visit was an eye-opener.
Do not give up and try to customize your protocol based on your symptoms and progress. It takes time and patience but it's worth doing it. It's YOU who can help yourself the most, all these methods, herbs and information is there to give you only the tools.
Good luck!- Re: third flush.....Alex Blueduck
23 y
3,765
This is a reply to # 126,503Alex,
I did the first two (of three,so far) flushes with no Epsom Salts . The first two flushes were good, lots of stones, and only a little bit of nausea, not enough to keep me awake. I took a chinese remedy, Shi Lin Tong, (which is also for bladder stones) for about three weeks, did a flush during that time. The first flush I did was the night after my ER visit, where of course the doctor told me that I had to have immediate gall bladder surgery.I am so glad that I knew better and went home, much to the doctor's dismay. The first flush was great. I drank almost a cup and half of olive oil, with the juice of two lemons. I felt good after for a while, then started to feel bad again and knew I had to do another flush. I think when I do the next flush it will be just the oil and lemon. I would not recommend to any one to take the Epsom Salts , because of the way if affected me, however I know that there must be some people that the salts have helped. I am just not one of them. Thanks for your reply.
Blueduck- Re: third flush.....Alex paint lady
23 y
3,678
This is a reply to # 126,510I had problems with the Epsom Salts too the first time. Second time I reduced the dosage and fared much better. I used the mag citrate last time and did the best as far as toilet runs.
Take care,
Lisa - Re: third flush.....Blueduck #161678
23 y
3,687
This is a reply to # 126,510Blueduck,
Too much Epsom Salt for too long is probably not good - it's hard on the kidney. This site I mentioned before (www.sensiblehealth.com) has a different approach that uses no epsom salt. Fasting, apple juice, some Chinese Herbs etc. Take a look, read it through, open your horizon. I know what you're going through, I know misery myself. I have done three flushes and did not get the result others talk about here but I keep doing what I started. It is a slow process in my case but the combination of flushes and Chinese Herbs help me. I do NOT have brown tongue, NO extreme fatigue (I still get sleepy 3 hours after I eat) NO excruciating pain (it's very mild!). Rumbling in my stomach is still a problem and passing gas too. But even this is getting better. There is no blockage in my liver anymore but the bile circulation is still not 100%.
As you can see the recovery is a long journey but one should never give up.
God bless!- Re: third flush.....Blueduck paint lady 23 y 3,573
- Re: third flush.....Alex Mikey
23 y
3,695
This is a reply to # 126,510The Epsom Salts are important not only for making you empty the bowels, but also because it relaxes the common bile duct, making it easier for stones to pass through.
Thus I would not do a flush without them, or unless you follow a different protocol completely than the Hulda Clark . Some of the other protocols do not use Epsom Salts .
HTH,
Mikey
- Re: third flush.....Alex paint lady
23 y
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- Re: third flush.....Alex Blueduck
23 y
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- Re: third flush.....Blueduck Hermit
23 y
3,583
This is a reply to # 126,495I use the Epsom Salts for the liver cleanse. No I don't like the taste of it either. But it only takes
me a few seconds to drink it down.
Just before you drink it, think about a doctor with a sharp knife cutting a hole in your body to
remove your gallbladder or doing a liver transplant. Then maybe the Epsom Salts isn't that bad
after all.
In Dr. Clarks book, she says that the Epsom Salts is used to relax the bile ducts. So I would assume
that if you skipped the epsom salts, you might set yourself up for a stuck stone, which I would
guess might be quite painful. I have had good results with it so I don't think I will change despite
the not so pleasant taste. If you find a substitute for it, make sure it will relax the bile duct.- Re: third flush.....Hermit Blueduck
23 y
3,679
This is a reply to # 126,504Hermit,
I did not mind the taste of the Epsom Salts .....its what happenend after I took it. I think for me, it is better to not take the salts. With the first flush I did not even know about the salts and the flush went fine, and it was just after I had been to the ER with a gall bladder attack and the doctor told me that there was a stone stuck in the "neck" of my gall bladder! I am glad that I did not listen to the doctor's recommendation of admittance to the hospital and immediate surgery. I also, did the second flush with no Epsom Salts and it went ok too. I do not plan to take the Epsom Salts with the next flush. I am glad it works for many people, I am just not one of them.
Thanks for your reply.
Blueduck- Sorry, Blueduck... Southern Belle
23 y
3,572
This is a reply to # 126,511I don't like anyone to suffer and it certainly sounds like you have, my new friend! You have been given good advice, so take what you need from the above posts and decide for yourself. Your body will tell you what it needs.
The irony is I am taking the Epsom Salt daily and have grown accustomed to the taste now. Weird, huh?- Re: Sorry, Blueduck... paint lady
23 y
3,676
This is a reply to # 126,527*****The irony is I am taking the Epsom Salt daily and have grown accustomed to the taste now. Weird, huh?
Not just weird but amazing. Your body must know that it's helping you. Didn't you say once that you don't like the taste of olive oil because of the flushes? Have you tried to vary the oils? Maybe then you would be able to eat it again. It's so healthy for you. I couldn't stand the smell of olive oil after my first cleanse and I'm a bit worried that I might get to hate the taste too.
Take care,
Lisa
- Hi Lisa Southern Belle
23 y
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This is a reply to # 126,531You are right. I have developed a bad taste for olive oil. I still use it for cooking and salads, etc.,, but I it ALWAYS reminds me of a liver flush!
I would like to add how much I am enjoying reading your posts! Thanks for taking time to share!- Southern Bell paint lady
23 y
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This is a reply to # 126,534Thanks:) I find it refreshing to talk to like minded people about natural health cures. Even when I don't agree:) I am and have always been the forrunner in new health practices in my own family so I feel that when I find something great, like this Liver Flush I have to convince them to try it. It's been an uphill battle.
But the main reason that I have been sharing is that I gleaned from the other people on this site and I feel I should contribute what little I know. It would soon be a dead site if everyone just stopped in, took the info and never gave thier results or tips.
My life is about to get very busy again so I won't be able to contribute much during that time but I'll at least stop in once a month when I'm doing my cleanses. I'm here tonight because I have insomnia again and itching everywhere. I guess I will have to go on and take a benedril. Hopefully I'll get to try out those Orthinine tablets tomorrow and the itching will be solved with more cleanses.
Take care,
Lisa
- Southern Bell paint lady
23 y
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- Hi Lisa Southern Belle
23 y
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- Re: Sorry, Blueduck...Southern Belle... Blueduck
23 y
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This is a reply to # 126,527Southern Belle!!
OMG I am so amazed that you take the Epsom Salts every day!! I just cannot imagine~! I had to read your post two times to make sure I was reading it right. I did not mind the taste of the Epsom Salts , just minded what it did to me. Does the salts make you pass brown water, or just keep your bowels regular? Thanks for the input. I do not think I will ever use the Epsom Salts again, unless to stop a gall bladder attack. I surely won't be using it with a flush! I passsed a grand total of........77 stones. That is the part that makes the flush worth it.....(all except taking the epsom salts, LOL)
Thanks again my dear friend.
Blueduck- Re: Sorry, Blueduck...Southern Belle... Southern Belle
23 y
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This is a reply to # 126,538Hey Blueduck!
I only take about 1/2 teaspoon of Epsom Salt daily and I take it for the magnesium. There is a wonderful post about all the benefits your body gets from magnesium and I can't find it now. (Probably if I wasn't looking for it, I would find it right away-Ha) But, if I run across it, I will let you know!
- Re: Sorry, Blueduck...Southern Belle... Southern Belle
23 y
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- Re: Sorry, Blueduck...
- Re: third flush.....Blueduck Hermit
23 y
3,673
This is a reply to # 126,511Dr. Clark said in her book that one needs to wait at least four hours after eating before taking the
epson salts or you will get nauseated. This is to allow the stomach to empty itself of it contents. I
guess that some people may have a poor digestive system and my need to wait more then four
hours. Could that be why you were nauseated?- Re: third flush.....Hermit Blueduck
23 y
3,658
This is a reply to # 126,533I had not eaten since that morning, and all I ate then was a small bowl of this thing I make with boiled chicken and mung beans. I drank lots of water all day and did have a cup of coffee in the afternoon, but it was more than four hours after I had the coffee that I started the cleanse with the Epsom Salts . I did not get nauseated until after I drank the olive oil concoction. I cannot figure it out, all I did differently was to use the Epsom Salts . I think that my stomach must have been empty when I took the salts, all that came out was brown water, and that kept coming out most of the night, about every 15 minutes. Thanks!
Blueduck
- Re: third flush.....Hermit Blueduck
23 y
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- Sorry, Blueduck... Southern Belle
23 y
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- Re: third flush.....Hermit Blueduck
23 y
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- Re: third flush.....Southern Belle Mikey
23 y
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This is a reply to # 126,495Try drinking lots of water before and after taking the Epsom Salts . This has helped me tremendously.
Also, if you were very strongly affected by the es, you may need to adjust the dosage. Try 3 tablespoons instead of 4.
HTH,
Mikey
- Re: third flush.....Southern Belle #161678
23 y
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