vomiting during the night 
paint lady
22 y
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Hello,
I have a couple of questions but first some history.
I have done the liver\gall bladder cleanse twice now. Both times I woke up in a cold sweat during the night and vomited up some of the oil.
On the first cleanse I used lemon juice, olive oil and Epsom Salts . When I woke up in the cold sweat, feeling feverish, I became quite sure I was going to die because of how ill I felt. I convinced myself that the oil I had taken had to have been rancid. Funny how the mind plays tricks on you:) I checked the oil the next day and it wasn't rancid just stronger smelling than what I usually buy. The next day I passed about a cup worth of stones. A few of them were about a inch around. I didn't count them like most people do, just didn't occur to me.
The second cleanse I used grapfruit juice instead which was much easier to swallow. I switched oils too since I now have an aversion to the smell of the first brand. I had no nausea till about 4 hours later when I again woke up in a cold sweat. This time I knew I would live:) This time I was prepared and tried taking the alkeseltzer gold. It didn't work and I think I ended up throwing up more oil than the first time which is odd since I had taken a fourth a cup less the second time. The next day I passed much fewer stones, most were about the size and color of old peas. Maybe an eigth of a cup worth. Only a couple of tiny ones were bright green.
My main question is..... Is there any way to aviod throwing up the oil? I read on one of these posts that it reduces the effectiveness of the cleanse if you throw it up. Is it possible that the reason my second cleanse wasn't as effective was because I threw up most of the oil? Also I passed out two of what looked to me like old greenbeans over the course of the week following the second cleanse. About three inches long, dark green and kind of rubbery looking. They didn't look like parasites to me though I guess they could have been since I have continued with my parasite program. Could these be that mucosal stuff that people sometimes pass during colon cleanses? I had done Colon Cleanse in the past and never passed anything like these.
Lisa
Ps. I did the parasite cleanses before I did these cleanses. I'll share my story of cleanses after I start getting some more permanent problem cures.
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- Re: vomiting during the night Fil
22 y
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This is a reply to # 126,298The very first time I tried to flush (7 yrs ago now), I vomited up ALL the oil at about 2am and passed nothing the next day. I even went and had pancakes for breakfast in frustration and rebellion! My naturopath said my body wasn't ready to release the stones and I needed to do more cleansing. I went on a very strict vegan alkaline, (no cooked fat) diet for 2 or 3 months, took liver support herbs (can't remember what herbs they were now), did 3 enemas a week (red clover or coffee). Then fasted for 3 days leading up to the cleanse (I think I drank organic apple juice while fasting).
The second attempt (that I now refer to as my first flush in other postings), I followed my instincts and only drank my limit of oil. This time was successful - incredibly, life changingly so. Wow, I had one blocked gall bladder and boy had it been affecting my health.
These days, I do Hulda Clark 's method only because the oil is easier to get down when mixed with the grapefruit juice. A couple of months ago, I desperately tried to do a flush as I had let it all build up again through bad diet etc and had a couple of mild attacks. A naturopath friend warned me to make sure my bowels were moving and my body was ready but I didn't listen. Well, I vomited and there went my flush! The next two weeks, I was strict with my diet, took liver support supplement (containing inositol, dandelion, L-cysteine, lecithin, folic acid, etc). This time, I could drink it no problem, it even tasted nice!
The two times I vomited (first time 7 years ago and then again recently), I was a bit stressed and anxious. My most successful cleanses have been when I am relaxed and feeling ready and not dreading the oil too much.
I combat nausea by sucking on a lemon 1/4 and sniffing peppermint oil on a tissue. Try not to get up after you have taken the oil. Last time, it was getting up to go to the bathroom that made me vomit. I had overdone it by taking Epsom Salts AND doing an enema because I was constipated and this gave me the runs. Not a good idea when you are trying to keep down the oil!
Hope this is helpful.
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- Re: vomiting during the night paint lady
22 y
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This is a reply to # 126,300Thanks Fil for replying and sending tips,
I think I better give more info. I was sound asleep when I woke up and subsequentially threw up. Not much stress. Now I did get a bit stressed when I felt like I was dieing the first time but I knew that I was fine the second time. The first time I did get nausea right after swallowing the oil but the second time I felt fine. The second time I was feeling confident that this was a good thing and looking forward to the benifits of my first cleanse. The only thing I absolutly dread of the whole cleanse is the Epsom Salts . They really burn my throat and stomach. I'm picking up some of the mag citrite to see if that helps.
I don't have constipation problems except for when I am doing the Atkins diet (for weight loss and Sugar balance problems) which I haven't done since I started the parasite cleanses. I have been keeping myself pretty cleaned out as part of my parasite program. In fact if anything I was more cleaned out the second time than the first time. Since the second time I used applejuice for several days ahead of time and that has a laxative effect on me. One thing I did learn is never ever eat meat the day of the cleanse. Did that the morning of the first cleanse. Ugh! Nothing like feeling as though you have rotten meat in your stomach. In fact that has caused me to be careful what I eat with my meat since then.
I just realised that I havn't had a sinus headache since I took the second cleanse. Rain usually triggers the headaches and it's rained twice. Maybe even removing those few stones helped more than I had thought.
I am going to cleanse again tonight and was hoping that someone would have some kind of tip. If I can get the peppermint oil I will try that though by the time I wake up It may be too late.
I thought I threw up the first time because of running to the bathroom as you said but I didn't do that the second time. Probably because I had cleaned myself out the day before the cleanse and had nothing for the Epsom Salts to do thier magic on. I wasn't even sick till I woke up.
Any other hints?
Lisa
- Re: vomiting during the night Hermit
22 y
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This is a reply to # 126,304If you are doing the Dr. Clark cleanse, did you do the Kidney/ parasite cleanse that she
recommends before the Liver cleanse?
Did you take the Ornithine before going bed when your did the Liver cleanse?
I have found that the Epsom Salt drink tastes a bit better if the water is cold instead of room
temperature.- Re: vomiting during the night Hermit
22 y
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This is a reply to # 126,306One more question for you. Did you stop eating and drinking at 2:00 PM?
If you did not, that may be the cause of your vomiting.- Re: vomiting during the night paint lady
22 y
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This is a reply to # 126,309Thanks for replying.
Yes I am doing the one from Dr. Hulda's book.
Yes I did parasite cleanses before this. I have actually been on and off one the last 7 weeks(two weeks of parasite cleanse, 5 days off, etc...) as it took a couple of weeks to convince the rest of my family that we all needed to do this. They aren't totally convinced but I insisted. I am not doing her specific formula because I had purchased my products before I had her book. I did pass some parasites but not nearly as many as I did on my first parasite cleanse last year. From what I can see the ingredients are essentially the same and I am going to build the zapper and use if for a while just to make sure. The first one we built caught fire.My husband says that dots mean to make a connection but in her book dots mean a hole in the box. LOL Sorry I just found it quite amusing to watch an electrician catch something on fire. Anyway.... back to the topic....
Yes I stopped eating and drinking over 12 hours before the flush except for some water.
I found that putting the water and Epsom Salts in the freezer for a half hour before I drank them it was more tolerable but the residue still burned my throat. Thanks though, I appreciate your taking time to stop and write me.
My first flush wasn't from her book it was one of the other recipies and I tried to take two cups of oil. When it started sloshing around inside of me and gagging me I just couldn't make myself take that last 3\4 cup. But despite taking more of the oil I kept more of it down. Doesn't make sence to me.
I spent about 6 hours yesterday reading this forum plus I reread all my recipies to see if there was anything I had missed. I should be starting this cleanse in the next few hours. It's only been a week since my last one but I have some of the symptoms of one being stuck and I don't want to chance it. I have to time it so everyone goes to bed before I start as I don't like people sitting around watching me drink oil. Makes me feel like a test animal. The rest of my family is going to do the flush next weekend so wish us luck. If I throw up but still pass some stones I guess it's still doing part of it's job. So I'll continue with my quest for health even if it's not as effective for me as for others. I am begining to wonder if I am just incredibly toxic and till some of it's been cleared out so that my body can function better I will just have to live with things.
Thanks for responding,
Lisa- Re: vomiting during the night Hermit
22 y
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This is a reply to # 126,310You did not mention anything about the making and drinking the kidney cleanse tea Dr. Clarks
recommends. She said that if your kidneys are not clean you may not get good results with the
liver cleanse. Not doing the kidneys may be a cause of being nauseated after drinking the olive
oil drink.
Are you taking the Ornithine? I did a her liver cleanse once without taking the Ornithine and I
had a miserable nights sleep. I woke up a few times during the night and felt very nauseated but
did not get sick. I also did not have good results the next day. Now when I do the cleanse I make
sure I take about four of the Ornithine capsules. I take them just before the the drink.
I use organic extra virgin olive oil and a fresh squeezed organic grapefruit. I have never had a
gag reflex drinking it. I think it tastes pretty good.
Good luck with your Zapper project.- Re: vomiting during the night paint lady
22 y
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This is a reply to # 126,313Your right I haven't made the kidney cleanse tea. When I started this I didn't think I needed it. I have changed my mind and intend to pick up the herbs. I also don't have the orthine tablets yet. I am intrigued by them because I have problems sleeping some nights and they sound helpful. The only reason I don't have them is because I forgot to buy them and it's a 45 minute drive to the health food store.
My zapper is finished. I have to admit he did a great job. Even put it in a hard plastic casing. I think it looks like a bomb from tv though. When someone is sitting there holding both handles they look like some psychotic nut:) We tried it out and it seems to work great. Made me dizzy but once that wore off I was more alert than usual. Too alert since it was bed time. I am thinking that I probably have some infections that are dragging my body down. If nowhere else then at least my teeth which I can't afford to have done. Not yet anyway.
Thanks for the advice,
Lisa
- Re: vomiting during the night paint lady
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- Re: vomiting during the night anon
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This is a reply to # 126,310Some things that might help with nausea/vomiting during a liver flush:
-taking hydrochloric acid tablets before retiring
-using a hot water bottle on the liver area
-sipping peppermint tea- Re: vomiting during the night paint lady
22 y
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This is a reply to # 126,314Hey thanks for the tips. I have the tea, can get the hot water bottle but what is the hydrocloric acid tablets? What do they do and where do I find them?
Thanks,
Lisa
- Re: vomiting during the night paint lady
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- Re: vomiting during the night Hollywood
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This is a reply to # 126,310Hi Lisa....wow....I'm really concerned about the way it sounds like you become violently ill. The vomiting sounds harsh. I have to tell you ....I did my first cleanse about 3 nights ago....I ONLY had half dose:
3oz oil (yes that is it.....only 3 oz of virgin olive oil)
10 oz coke
and about 2 lemons worth of juice.
While I became Mildly nautious, I did NOT have any vomiting as you discribed. It will take a slight bit longer to get throuh your system BUT it is so worth it. I had many bowel movements the following day all through out the day. In the morning I drank 5oz of Magnesium citrate and that did the trick. But I couldnt' go any where all day so make sure you don't have anywhere to go...or bring a port-o-potty! lol.
I think the 2 cups of oil is excessive and it sounds as if your body thinks so too. Everyone is different. I am sooooo greatful I only had half of what was recommended or I'd of been violently ill too. The only other time I drank so much oil was when my mid wives had me drink it to send me into labor.....let me tell you I was sitting on the toilet holding a bucket between my knees as I was pukin and poopin at the same time like mad! Coming out both ends is NOOOOO way to go. So....I did this cleanse with a small amount and did not get NEAR as sick as many have described in fact I didn't vomit at all. Please becareful for your own sake and maybe cut it back a little. You'll still pass stones no matter what....I just don't think you have to get rid of all your bodily fulids doing it. LOL Take care and best of luck to you.
Porsche- sluethed but not solved paint lady
22 y
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This is a reply to # 126,317Oh my, I can not imagine how horrible it must be to take oil to get the labor going. I don't mind the vomiting so much as the cold sweat and shaking. I did pass a lot of stones the first time despite the vomiting and have had some health issues helped so I guess it's worth it.
Last night I didn't sleep well (should have had the orthine) and woke up right before I started to sweat so I was able to wait it out and figure out what exactly was happening. Suddenly, as I got shaky and hot feeling, I realised that my blood Sugar was plumeting. I had no coke, no candy and no Sugar in the house. The only thing I could think of that was sweet was some grapes. I chewed three, sucking on the juice and spitting out the rest as I wasn't sure what eating would do to me while in the middle of the flush. Unfortunatly it was too little too late. I hit the bottom with the Sugar and at that point I actually felt my liver contract which sent me running to the bathroom. At the same time as I sat on the toilet I threw up. Only about half this time. Passed a lot of tiny stones and what I think is called chaff.
So now I could care less that I vomit. I am worried about the blood sugar thing. It had been about a year and a half since I had that happen. I honestly thought that I was cured. This happened a lot while I was pregnant. I had gone on the Atkins diet and worked myself up to a fairly balanced diet.
I'm not sure why my blood sugar plummets right at about the time that my liver contracts. I thought it was the pancreas that controlled the blood sugar. In any case I will need to modify this flush, maybe lessening the amount so that I don't have to take as much grapefruit juice. I won't be doing this again for another month and during that time I am going to drop coffee. It's the only thing I can think of that I has wood alchol in it. ::sigh:: I'm not even sure I have the will power to do without coffee. I've droped it several times and always wound up drinking it again. So I'm down to water now. No juice, no milk, no coffee, no cokes. I'm also going to try out some herbs that Dr Hulda recommends. And I will be going back on my Atkins diet. So lots of meat and veggies, some fruit, no sugar. I'll stay away from the packaged diet foods just in case. I guess this is the price you pay for being a junk food addict for ten years.
Take care everyone and thanks for all the great advice and concern,
Lisa
Ps. I intend on opening another thread on the blood sugar issue some time soon since I am surely not the only one this has happened to.
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- Re: green bean - liver duct stone? Fil
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This is a reply to # 126,298This sounds just like a gallstone but in the shape of a bile duct! I think Juniper Berry passed something similar and there are photos posted somewhere. Sounds like solidified bile anyway because they're dark green and rubbery.
>> Also I passed out two of what looked to me like old greenbeans over the course of the week following the second cleanse. About three inches long, dark green and kind of rubbery looking (paint lady) >>- Re: green bean - liver duct stone? paint lady
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This is a reply to # 126,301Where do I find Juniper berries pictures? I looked at picts when I first found this forum and didn't find anything that looked like that. Maybe I missed it? The roundish ones didn't bother my mind any but the idea of a three inch long green beanish looking one really is gross. It's a wonder I wasn't haveing worse problems than I was. I wish Dr. Hulda's book had more info about what to expect when doing a flush in it.
Thanks,
Lisa- For Paint Lady Southern Belle
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This is a reply to # 126,305To see the pictures, go to the Liver Flush archives #4 and I believe her post is dated September 27.
- Re: For Paint Lady paint lady
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This is a reply to # 126,308Thank you so much for telling me how to find them. Yes mind looked just like those except longer. Though without something in the pict it's hard to compare them size wise. Mine were less then 1/4 inch around and about three inches long. I have a theory about why I had so many stones but I'm going to save that for my story when I share it on here. It's nice to know what they were anyway. I sure wish I had thought to take pictures. It still amazes me that something so unorganic looking came out of my body. Looked like I had eaten plastic or glass or something.
Take care,
Lisa- Re: For Paint Lady Fil
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This is a reply to # 126,311To me they looked like emeralds on my first cleanse! I was so disappointed when they melted. Took lots of photos though!! (which I showed everyone at work, much to their disgust!)
- Re: For Paint Lady paint lady
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This is a reply to # 126,327lol Yeah my husband thought we should make jewelry out of them. He is sure there has to be some way to market them. Too bad they melt. My pretty ones were on my first cleanse too. The second cleanse were much darker.
Take care,
Lisa- Re: For Paint Lady Fil
22 y
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This is a reply to # 126,352I agree! I just got "low melting point fatty material" on my lab report! But I'm sure they didn't test them. They could at least have analysed and told me what they were. So next time I flush out enough stones, I'm going to persevere until I get someone to properly test them.
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