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(This is from a 2006 story in the Iowa Observer)
Chemtrails: GAO report admits "chaff"
Last May a family in Iowa contacted the office of Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA) to report the constant criss-crossing of "chemtrails" in the sky above their neighborhood. They received back from the senator’s office a General Accounting Office (GAO) report on "military chaff" and the material safety data sheet for aluminum-coated fiberglass fibers being spread_seven days a week for several hours each day_in the skies above their home.
The chaff is spread by pilots learning how to mask planes or send false radar images. It was reported that the military also has lead-based chaff, but that it is not being used at this time. Chaff was used by the military in Europe in WWII and, according to the GAO, had been used in training here at home since the 50s.
Once chaff reaches the ground, it breaks down into particles small enough to inhale. Though military spokespeople insist that chaff is not harmful, the GAO report concluded that health effects are unknown and more studies are needed.
Regardless, some members of this family are very sick. On May 23, after a hard rain the day before, they a noticed glittering substance and a pinkish-colored powder substance on the roof of their house. They then noticed the glittering substance on many surfaces, even the dashboard of the family car. Both substances were collected and sent to a lab for analysis.
Among the substances found to be in the samples were several that should simply not be there:
6 bacteria, including anthrax and pneumonia
9 chemicals including acetylcholine chloride
26 heavy metals including arsenic, gold, lead,mercury, silver, uranium and zinc
4 molds and fung
7 viruses
2 cancers
2 vaccines
2 sedatives
Over the last several months, The IO has received a significant increase in chemtrail-related calls and letters. Most report a dramatic increase in chemtrail "spraying" activity in their areas; some are reporting the development of chronic flu-like symptoms, chronic fatigue and body aches that they have never before experienced.
We intend to expound upon this subject in greater detail -hopefully next month.
If you are seeing the relationship between accelerated chemtrail spraying in your area and symptoms among friends, family and members of your community, begin writing it down and send the information to us by mail or email. Note times, dates and specific symptoms. If you live near a military installation, expect that you are being "sprayed." You may want to contact your senator or rep and, politely (that is how you get the information you are seeking) request the forwarding of any information that may be available on the military chaff being used in your area. After obtaining relevant documents from your rep or senator, consider using it to obtain epidemiological data from your local health department.
Source: July 2006 Idaho Observer
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This is an amazing admission!
Please post a link on the other
side of the fence where the
support forum is~!
//www.curezone.org/forums/f.asp?f=897
Thank you,
Zoe
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- Re: A message for chemtrails naysaye... #69242
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,220,038I certainly don't put it past the Government to be involved in experiments with "chemtrails" to see how they can mask radar or even effect the weather. I don't, however, buy the notion that it is being done to kill off the population or that it is as widespread as some people claim, although everyone sees things through their own eyes, and where I live right now in western Massachusetts it is pretty rare for me even to see a plane much less a chemtrail/contrail.
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You are just too trusting my friend. I have no doubt from my time here that you have a heart of gold. Maybe you are just too good and trusting to see just how evil those who control our government and our world really are.
Did you happen to note the ingredients from the lab test? Or followed the posts of Sunver, an actual Chemtrails insider who is known far beyond CureZone? Do you think that the military needs to constantly spray chaff?
Not sure about where you live (any nearby military bases?) but in the two different parts of Texas where I live the spraying in quite heavy. The same is true for my hometown of Plano - which is not very far from where I am at the moment.
One constant - whenever heavy spraying is followed by rain, respiratory illnesses occur on a wide basis, and whereas normally colloidal silver will get rid of such problems, massive doses seem barely able to hold their own against whatever is coming down from the chemtrails.
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Thats the thing DQ, I have lived in various parts of New England for the past 20 years and have never seen any of this stuff. I have been living in the same area now for 11 years and rarely see any planes of any sort. There certainly are many holes, or at the very least unanswered questions with the whole chemtrail notion. There are a lot of people who live in Europe and Canada who are reporting chemtrails. Who is responsible for this? Were the programs developed independantly or is there an international conspiracy? The notion of cooperation between many nations makes it harder to believe because it greatly increases (by many fold) the number of people who would have to be involved and keep their mouth shut. After Dubya we are not on overly friendly terms with many nations. I did read a bunch of Sunver's posts. The red wine spit test ain't worth the alcohol in the wine. There is no control - even if everyone tests positive now you need to compare that to reference samples taken before spraying occured, plus they can't definitively say what exactly is showing up in the tests, just that it looks close to what they say is being sprayed. Considering I have yet to see it with my own eyes it is going to take more then just anecdotal evidence to convince me that it it as widespread as some report. I certainly reserve the right to change my opinion in the future.- Re: A message for chemtrails naysaye... dquixote1217
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On the other hand, I see them all the time. And see the infections that follow when it rains.
What else do you suppose the NWO conspiracy or the Bilderburg meetings are if not international? But even so, do you suppose the US has any military bases in Europe?
Did you follow the links in Sunver's post, or in mine? If so, did you see the video of chemtrails nanoengineered particles under the microscope?
DQ
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Until you understand what the people at the top are capable of, chemtrails won't make much sense to you. If I started here, I would've had trouble with it as well.
You seem like you have an analytical mind. I challenge you to look carefully into 9/11. Open your mind and look at all the facts and just think about the official story and the gaps. Look at how WTC 7 went down. Consider whether the pancake theory really holds up (a tenured physics professor lost his job because he said it was physically impossible for the official story on how the towers came down to be true). Consider all these things - there are so many gaps it's ridiculous. Consider eyewitnesses who heard explosion in the tower basement *before* the planes hit. It stacks up so fast you'll realize we were sold a bill of goods.
See where it takes you and then you'll understand how chemtrails fit into the picture. If you can't see the more obvious things, the more clever stuff like chemtrails will elude you. I never thought much of them until someone pointed it out to me. - Re: A message for chemtrails naysaye... Zoebess
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This is a reply to # 1,220,269If I thought snapping photos would convince you
I would do that, but wowser, if I could have wiggled
my nose and you could have been HERE yesterday, you
would have seen the trails in the morning, and they
continued all day right up until late evening when
I looked last. I even noticed that a whole section
of sky which usually is NOT sprayed was full of the
X's. Usually the trails here are laid in neat lines
side by side and then gridded like a checkerboard
overlaid by lines in the opposite direction. Yesterday
they were X's which were out of the ordinary for us.
The sky also had regular "clouds" too so perhaps this
had an effect on the way they laid them down.
After seeing the chemtrails just before Katrina
which were heavy and laid over a two week period,
they laid off laying them for close to a year here.
This year there has been many more.
Last year, the heaviest was when I got slammed with
serious health issues immediately after a week of
exposure. This was in the early fall and I am STILL
working to recover since it hit my kidneys. Other
than this episode with the chemtrails, my health has
been very good. No flu or colds in so long I cannot
remember. It has been many years. The infections ARE
seemingly aggressive and I keep hitting it. I suspect
if I had not been healthy, it may be even more serious.
I wish I knew someone with a rife machine, or a
radionics machine, I am wondering at this point what
it will take to knock down what is waging war in my body.
best wishes,
Zoe
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For some odd reason there's a wanting and needing for this to be true among many (especially in the alt health community). It's pathological. I can't explain it, other than I suspect there's a significant political and monetary motivation behind it all that's not interested in what is the truth and what isn't.
The avg person that buys into this is just a pawn. The reasoning follows; it has to be real because all government is bad. This is an extreme and simplistic point of view. Yes, govts and people do bad things, and yes, there is corruption and coverups and a failed medical system, etc, etc. But if you really look into it all, you find most of the Internet content purported as "proof" is just hearsay or explainable phenomena.
Chemtrails really are the prefect Conspiracy to propagate because everyone can see contrails; normal contrails persist (indisputable fact), and therefore everyone can feel threatened, but you can never touch or examine them. Those that claim to examine them claim they have picked up samples from the ground. In every case that I've examined, the samples were misreported or not proven to be from aircraft. Moreover, a dieing question I have is: How could anyone reliably collect samples from aircraft flying at multiple thousands of feet and GS of 400+mph? It would be hard enough to find a Humvee dropped from that altitude let alone microscopic fibers and spray molecules.
VOR- Truth or coincidence? dquixote1217
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This is a reply to # 1,220,365For some unexplained reason I can't explain how it is that there seems to be a wanting and a needing for some people to come into alternative forums and proceed to post ONLY denialist mainstream supportive messages.
http://curezone.com/forums/s.asp?f=762&ob=d&c=0&t=150&m=VOR
Is it merely coincidence that you appeared on the scene and immediately began a series of posts in this forum less than a week after a true Chemtrails insider, Sunver, came here and spilled the beans about chemtrails?
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This is a reply to # 1,220,542Hey, just because I am paranoid does not mean that they aren't out to get me!
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I wasn't even aware of Sunver. He spilled what beans?
No, I'm very much interested in aviation and meteorology so this particular Conspiracy is intriguing to me. Sorry to disappoint.
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This is a reply to # 1,220,854OK, I'll accept that - though you really should look up Sunver's posts. If you are interested in meteorology you should also look into HAARP.
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- Re: A message for chemtrails naysaye... Zoebess
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This is a reply to # 1,220,365I like BlackNGold. I would not wiggle my nose
and want just anyone to be here ;p in case
you thought I might be one of those you describe
as pathologically wanting...
For the most part, I feel the same way I did as
a kid when the herds of children ran behind the
mosquito fogging trucks. I thought, stupid kids,
they deserve what they get. I come by these
suspicions naturally. I grew up in Cleveland in
an industrial city where we learned there were
days when the pollution was so serious you would
stay indoors unless you absolutely had to leave
the house. I left and never looked back since I
wanted to live where I could breathe.
Now, it is me who is being sprayed and no one
appears to be asking the right questions on my
behalf. Looks like I have to root around for
information on my own.
I live in a relatively remote area and still, now,
I live under a constant threat of direct spraying
of something. I suspect it is done nearer to where
I am since by the time the front comes to push it
over a populated area, it is thinned and spread out
and resembles how a ripple spreads and thins. I
am at the front edge where very often they are laid
out.
Here is an effort by the Governor of California to
ferret out information on the aerosal program~~
http://www.dontchemtrailmebro.com/docs_dctmb/swartztrails.html
It will be interesting to see if he has any success.
be happy, be well,
Zoe
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And my own fool self and several of my buddies rode our bicycles completely inside the DDT fog as close to the nozzle on the back of the truck as we could get, peddling furiously for blocks and sucking in great lungfulls of the stuff.
I also worked around asbestos particles for a year. And smoked about 40 years. We won't even talk about what I did from my late teens through twenties . . . but I really should either be dead or else glow in the dark.
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This is a reply to # 1,220,505lol~~ ;)
Yepper, you know exactly what I mean
then. I suppose you inhaled, right~~ ;p
best wishes,
Zoe
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This is a reply to # 1,220,459Hey Zoe,
I have a lot of respect for you and to be honest you and your testimony are one of the few reasons I hold out a chance that maybe there is more to meets the eye in terms of the supposed vast scope of it. I grew up in the D.C. area (about ten miles outside) from the late 60's until the mid 80's and don't remember much happening back then, although as a kid you have better things to occupy your time so who knows. There certainly is no activity where I am now. I like Arnold and read tons about him when I got into bodybuilding in the early 90's. He may put out terrible movies but he is a pretty honest guy, at least as politicians go. It will be interesting to see what happens with that. I am moving to San Diego next year so maybe my perspective will change.Advertisement
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- Re: A message for chemtrails naysaye... Zoebess
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This is a reply to # 1,220,516Please, consider yourself lucky if you do not
have chemtrails overhead. When you finally see
them you will instantly know they are not contrails.
It is an apples and oranges sort of thing.
I began seeing them when I moved to Arkansas, again,
in a remote place. This was in the mid 90's. I know
previous to that I had spent tons of time outdoors
up high in the Ozarks. When I spent time working for
the Forest Service in the 80's when we lived up in
the Alpine Wilderness and our eyes were glued to
the skies often enough that had there been anything
strange like what I have been seeing, I would have
remembered or remarked on it. Even when I have lived
in a town, I got out and look up frequently. So this
is a relatively new phenomenon in the last decade.
When I went out west, considering living in Sedona,
Arizona, those poor folks seemed to be sprayed
heavier than I have ever seen, including right up
to the present time. Out over the desert, you could
see the planes approach and "turn on" the sprayers.
It would be foolish to consider that anything but an
aerosol program.
Best of luck on your own trip out west to San Diego.
Also, YES, lets hope Arnold can help and that he
does NOT stand up in the end and parrot some party
or government lie/line where he tries to reassure
everyone that nothing of substance is happening.
We need answers.
best wishes,
Zoe
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This is a reply to # 1,220,541Crawford, Tx. I can't imagine "them" spraying an area where GB will be moving back to.
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