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A whole new area I'm wanting to start learning more about, but I've seen enough bits and pieces of information that Newport has given about parasites/heavy metals going hand in hand..for example "F. Buski fluke/lead" that's just the tip of the iceberg that I want to hear more about, and I have the Clark book and read it, but like Newport mentioned in not minding repeating himself..I can be in a different place, dealing with something different, and reread information I've read before and get it in a whole new light.
Where to begin? Is testing necessary to find out exactly what heavy metals are being dealt with? What kind of testing? Hair analysis etc?
I've read enough on the Iodine forum to actually be scared off from even wanting to begin any of it...does ridding the body of heavy metals go on for some time, (I'm sure if there is re-exposure)...
and is it to be expected that it's going to make you feel like crap?? That's one of the main reasons for my being hesitant.
The parasite cleansing/ Liver Flushing has been quite a journey of itself, and in my own opinion, from my own experience- which everyone is not going to have...would not be one I would tell someone to start into casually.
Same with chelation? I'd rather know honestly...will it be something that's going to hit you like a hammer at times?
Where do you even begin??
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Boy do I hear you on this one.
I've been using a very low dose of Iodine for 5 months now, about 500 mcgs. I've gone back and forth about salt water flushing, and I'm not even sure how to do it. In Florida, everyone swells up because of the humidity and the heat, adding salt is pretty scary to me, given that I'm somewhat arthritic anyway. (Meaning I'm over 50, and I've dislocated and broken bones, and been in car wrecks.) Even salty food is hard for me to take, because of swollen joints, deliberately adding salt kind of paralizes me. Is there any other way to de-tox bromide other than a salt water flush?
I found I can do two days on, and then two days off without ill effects. I tried 5%lugols, at a half drop, and it was unbearable, mood swings, agressiveness, crying jags, so I backed off, and did a really low dose.
Even a really low dose is beneficial for me. Don't put it in citrus (Duh!) an anti-oxidant turns it into iodide, also necessary, but not iodine.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,162,076>> deliberately adding salt kind of paralizes me
It isn't the salt but the change in salt intake that is the issue. Starting with the Miracle Adrenal mix and slowly changing the ratio in favor of salt will help:
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NOTE: If you use Celtic salt the high magnesium content will also cancel some sodium. I would bake this salt prior to use though:
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So now I have what I need to mix up the adrenal mix...thanks Julie, I would never have thought to look at the salt substitute stuff.
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Potash fertilizer is potassium oxide not chloride, but still a good find since Muriate of potash with a high purity level could be far cheaper to purchase.
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This is a reply to # 1,162,104Hi Newport,
I've had a chance to think about this, and adrenal fatigue is a good possibility for me. I had hesitated to do a liver flush, because of a post I read that said the flush had put the person in a state of adrenal fatigue. I read the symptoms, and it scared me off from liver flushing, because so many of them matched my own. I finally did my first liver flush, I have a good deal more parasite purging to do, I have a round worm infection in addition to tape worm and fluke, and I decided that the benefits outwiegh the risks.
There is just no way around it, killing off the bigger worms really makes you feel really crummy also.
I was just sat down right on my butt the two days after the flush, and it felt so much like heat exhaustion that I slammed a whole bottle of Gatoraide, which got me back on my feet. It felt like an electrolyte imbalance, which is pretty common down here in the summer, between the heat and the humidity. Often the felt temperature here July though the end of Oct is over 100 degrees, it seems relentless, and people wind up in the hospital with symptoms that mimic heart attacks, but are cured by simply balancing electolytes. (That will be 20K please, eat two bananas and call me in the morning.) I've had problems with heat down here a couple of times, badly enough that I've resorted to Gatoraide before. Nothing like adding to the heavy metal problem in the form of whatever nasty chemicals they put in it to make it taste the way it does.
This looks like a good alternative to gatoraide to me, which has all sorts of nasty stuff in it, in addition to the minerals that restore your electolyte balance.
So thank you, this is very useful for me, and much appreicated.
Julie
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Like I told Newport, people are going to wonder why I would even bring this up on a parasite forum...but I know there's a whole big connection here, and if I've only been focusing on killing the parasites, and flushing the liver, which has all been necessary for cleaning out a bunch of stuff...but if I don't look at the whole over-all picture, IS it possible to get cleaned up without also taking the rest of it into consideration that needs to also be cleaned up..the heavy metals and getting a clear understanding of what Hulda Clark IS talking about in regards to the toxins that go hand in hand with the parasites.
The Iodine forum only confuses me more. Oral chelation? What the heck is that? See...I'm just beginning at the very beginning. But, yes, I do believe it is valid here on the parasite forum, and I'm hoping to get baby beginner information to even know where to start. We know Iodine is all part of it...but how, and why, and how much, and what with it?
And do we need to know for sure what we're dealing with? And how do you know, unless it's just going through it and finding out you do.
Just one little piece I put together from something Newport had said, and I know he knows alot about this, which is also why I'm asking here on this forum too..for all of us to learn from it...
F. Buski fluke/lead....lead/vitamin C....what else?
How long, how much, how would I know it was working? etc etc.
I'm with you, do you have to feel worse to try to feel better?? Just going to 6 drops of the 2% of Lugol's a day for a while, I felt worse than ever. But it was also when I was dealing with the major reaction from family about the granddaughter with asthma coughing up the "white threads and carrot sticks"...parasites/asthma..and the other grandma telling the mother she had to get the granddaughter away from me,(who lives right next door, by the way) that I was a frutcake for even mentioning that what she had coughed up could be parasites...and the Alt Med Dr. was a fruitcake for mentioning the "cause" of the high platelets/chronic infection, asthma was parasites, to never allow her to be taken to him ever again. How ridicuolus that he would even mention parasites.
My husband knew I was seriously ready to move without him.
So, I'm sure it was what was going on at the time, but it also made me wonder about the iodine, even at just 6 drops a day, which I know is a very small amount compared to what alot of people say to take...and I did feel better after going off of it for a few days, and going back to just 2. But, that's all I had been doing too..just the iodine, along with the parasite cleansing stuff/liver support stuff.
I'm sure there's plenty of reading on it...but that can really get confusing when you start reading different things!
I'm just hoping for Baby step #1, Baby step #2, how to even get started, how long to expect etc...
The little bit I read on the Andy Cutler, oral chelation stuff, it looked like it was talking about a couple of years?? - Re: Heavy metals/parasites #77203
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This is a reply to # 1,162,076if you take iodine, you have to do an Epsom Salt bath from time to time and should take a break for a few days with iodine. Just don't know if that would bother you, but it's not a regular salt and it doesn't contain any Na. It is MgSO4.- Re: Heavy metals/parasites #87980
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This is a reply to # 1,162,114that makes sense, given the above, it's mostly magnesium. thank you, this is all hard to figure out, putting bits together helps.
Julie
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This is a reply to # 1,162,076Jessie how is your zapping going?
Right now I have been on Lugols and carnosine which is another great oral chelator. I am thinking of ordering the $10 zapper and buying copper plates at a hardware store and zapping my brains out.LOL
I am diabetic, hypo/hyper thyorid, candida, hormone imbalance and weight loss.
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Hi Jessesmom,
That's very interesting about the lead & buski connection. That's the visible parasite I see when I cleanse and I definitely have a lead overload. See below my heavy metals test results. The number on the left is my result while the number on the right is the reference range. Metals w/o a number were not detected. Lead is a problem for me as well as nickel. Mercury was there as well. The thing about testing for heavy metals is that they do not readily show up on urine tests unless a provoking agent is used. I was given 1500 mg DMSA before collecting urine for 24 hours. I did a test before this one w/o DMSA and there were no metals detected. This is why heavy metal toxicity is rarely diagnosed, at least in conventional medicine. The body will sequester metals in tissues, organs etc... anywhere to get it out of the blood, hence why blood tests are almost useless. Unless you are acutely poisoned metals cannot be found in the blood after 2 days or so of an acute poisoning. Slow, chronic poisoning also builds up in tissues, not blood.Some Dr.s do hair analysis but this method has its flaws as well.
I believe my metals overload is even more than what the below results yield. I have a 'yeast' problem as well. Metals attract candida and other pathogens and these pathogens hold onto the metals. This is why I've not been successful with standard chelation therapy. The metals are bound by my yeast problem and chelators can't reach the tightly bound metals. Our Dr. has me on Colloidal Silver and Zeolite, which is really working great for me. The idea with this dual treatment is that the CS deals with the pathogens and when the pathogens begin to die off the metals are liberated. Zeolite is there to sweep up the liberated metals. I've been using it for a month now. I am feeling somewhat toxic though. I also use HM Nano Detox by Premier Research Labs. It's liquid Chlorella and also does a great job getting metals out.
We'll see how everything goes but I'm sure heavy metals contribute to parasite problems as well as pathogen problems.
RESULT REFERENCE WITHIN VERY
METALS μg/g CREAT RANGE REFERENCE RANGE ELEVATED ELEVATED
Aluminum < dl < 35
Antimony < dl < 1
Arsenic 17 < 130
Beryllium < dl < 0.5
Bismuth 1.2 < 15
Cadmium 0.6 < 2
Lead 38 < 5
Mercury 3.1 < 4
Nickel 13 < 12
Platinum < dl < 1
Thallium 0.2 < 0.8
Thorium < dl < 0.3
Tin 4.6 < 10
Tungsten 0.8 < 1
Uranium < dl < 0.2
CREATININE
RESULT REFERENCE
mg/dL RANGE 2SD LOW 1SD LOW MEAN 1SD HIGH 2SD HIGH
Creatinine 17 35- 225
SPECIMEN DATA
Comments:
Date Collected: 9/17/2006 Method: ICP-MS Collection Period: timed: 6 hours
Date Received: 9/19/2006
Date Completed: 9/21/2006 Provoking Agent: DMSA Provocation: POST PROVOCATIVE
Toxic metals are reported as μg/g creatinine to account for urine dilution variations. Reference ranges are representative
of a healthy population under non-challenge or non-provoked conditions. No safe reference levels for toxic metals
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This is a reply to # 1,162,095Babirye, and your heavy metals tests results came through what kind of testing??
Like the Dr. has told me too, it's been kind of like peeling the layers of an onion, because there's been so much to get cleaned up before possibly starting on any of this other stuff. And darned if it doesn't all go hand in hand..the colon cleansing, the parasite killing, the congested liver, the EBV, the celiac, HPV, which I haven't even mentioned before here, ("gift" from my 1st husband as a young bride of 19),adrenal fatigue, thyroid/hypothalmus/pituitary..which medical tests never did pick up, but muscle testing picked up immediately, realizing that yes, being so darned sick from the tick 40 years ago most has been a factor in how far back the fatigue has gone.
**And where do you get potassium chloride for the adrenal mix?***
Acupuncture was what we're scheduling to begin this next week, to continue with the other stuff, and Traditional Chinese Med was what I wanted to talk to him about to go with it...but maybe it's time to start peeling this layer, because I'm realizing how significant this is in trying to get the parasites cleaned up. Am I right?
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Oops, I get ahead of myself sometimes. I did a urine challenge test. I thought it I collected urine for 24 hours but as I read the bottom of the results it states 6 hours. It was a while ago so I don't remember well. I took a huge dose of DMSA - chelator- and then collected the urine in a gallon container - provided by the lab. A Dr. had ordered the test. He normally does the test with IV DMPS but I was frightened by the stories I've read about DMPS. When I saw the lead overload on my results I agreed to the 'best treatment for lead'- IV EDTA, because I wanted it out immediately. I completely tanked after the first treatment and didn't touch a chelator for months afterwards. IV therapy is too invasive IMO.
Yep, all of this is significant. Many Practitioners will say it's all about the terrain, always about the terrain. If the terrain is fine then you'll be able to fend off these things to which we are susceptible. I'm really working on getting out these metals as quickly and cautiously as possible. I found a good treatment so I'll stick with it for now.
**And where do you get potassium chloride for the adrenal mix?***
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This is a reply to # 1,162,158me too, oops sorry- the question about the potassium chloride was one intended for Newport for his Adrenal Fatigue mixture..
Ok, so you've definetly helped me figure out which direction I need to go next. Thank you for your information Babirye, I didn't realize you had been through all of this, and I appreciate you sharing it.
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