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...you said "Well Amanda I am getting so many emails from peole asking to know more, my time is taken up ther as well, it seems with people with a common interest in not dropping dead."
yet i posted the question as to why me or my family and friends or husband havent dropped dead from taking mms? you said " why does chemical poisoning have to imply death."
pretty inconsistent biosafe
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This is a reply to # 1,101,241Read my last post and you will see why I was inconsistant.
Now in answer to your qusestion, why do you keep harping on about being dead.
Do you understand OH&S etc set maxinum levels of chemicals before they become toxic to our system, and if you read the accute toxity information on chlorine dioxide, they include symtoms like nausia and diahrria, so if the goverment guidlines are set down by which tests are done on animals, and they never went to human trials becuse of the problem's oberved in the animal's, but they know what problems are going to occur, you don't make humans guinea pigs because of the dangers, you base you recomendations of the information as known.
Now nausia and vomiting and diahrria are listed as:
Acute health effects : The following acute (short-term) health effects may occur immediately or shortly after exposure to chlorine dioxide, following that you go on to:
Chronic health effects : The following chronic (long-term) health effects can occur at some time after exposure to chlorine dioxide and can last for months or years:
so why are you believing every one should be dead, this is listed in my previos add on's so it show's you did not read it, and probably just looking to win a point. Well sorry but I don't loose in this Industry. Now if you were realy interested in the health concern's you would have read what they are and know the answers, and be asking what right have you got JIM HUMBLE to mislead people and make face falce recomendation's that could be detremental to my family, god Jim you should warn people that ClO2 could cause death, it states that with pulmonary oedema. And don't you think you have the right to be warned that Chlorine Dioxide in animal lab tests damaged the developing foetus and it is evidence of that in humans to.
I say thanks Jim.
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This is a reply to # 1,101,255biosafe, i am honestly not trying to give you a hard time. i like to get to the heart of a matter. i and not harping on death--- i am trying to get to the heart of the matter.---yes,trying to make a point.
now, in all seriousness-- i have to ask you a question and i like to ask them one at a time so that you can just answer the ONE question.
HERE IS MY ONE QUESTION ---are these test that are done that you mention above about INGESTING( meaning drinking) a solution that is exactly like to ACTVATED mms --or are they about the exposure to the VAPORS?
lets just start with this one question first, okay.
i am trying to be open to you.. can you do the same?
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This is a reply to # 1,101,263No you first please Ananda.
Q. Do you sell Miracle-Mineral-Supplement- apologies for being jumpy ananda7
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This is a reply to # 1,101,285okay--- i have kinda chilled out since the last post--- i apologize for being jumpy.
with that said---
---i truly know that neither you nor jim humble are trying to hurt anyone. it seems that both of you just want to help others. i dont think jim h. is deliberatly keeping the facts hidden. and i dont think you are trying to "up him one" eitheror make money off this thing. i think both of you are genuine--- and concerned with helping others to heal. i think you are trying to warn people of the possible dangers which is great.
i know i cannot compete with your knowledge of chlorine dioxide so i will not try. but i just cannot understand why those things have not happened to me. and why i am breathing better now than ever????
also, i recentl had a doctors visit and he said i was doing better than he has seen me do in years. my ebstein barr virus titers are so much better and i have not had a herpes break out since being on mms (which i had 2x a month before).... that all says something to me about the mms... its working!
the thing for me is this. i have been taking mms for over a month and i have not had anything but good come from it. and i tell you the truth, i have not been able to breathe this good in 15 years.
my point in posting all that i posted was that my experience thus far with mms has been nothing but good --- so that is in contrast to the warnings and i dont kn ow why that might be????-- so when i hear that all of those horrible things can happen, yet didnt happen to me or my family members and friends on mms, i wonder "how can that be"????
i am truly open to what you are saying at this point. we all want to be safe. but i just cannot understand how come these horrible side effects have not yet happened to us after all tha we have ingested? is it going to happen? if so, why hasnt it happened to those like jim humble who have been on it for years. i am not trying to start trouble with the questions i ask. i really just want to know your take on this particular thing. that is why i keep asking about it to you????? seriously????
so can you help me to just understand this much. if you can help me with this much then i can listen to more of what you are saying.
thank you for your time,
ananda
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This is a reply to # 1,101,304I can't help feeling sorry for the guy. He spent a large part of his career, 10 years, on the study of one element. Highly specialized. Quite risky for a career. I've been there.
He is trying to help his company bring something to market. The company depends upon his research. Now, that product is undermined by the introduction of the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement protocol and the huge number of positive user testimonies. It is bad enough that he is already competing with a widely received and successful product, Stabilized Oxygen.
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This is a reply to # 1,101,263no i dont sell mms and have no interest in selling.
now can u answer that question? thanks
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This is a reply to # 1,101,241I posted some of his comments on another Miracle-Mineral-Supplement forum yesterday, here is one response I got back:
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Well, that was fun!
I read that guy's rant, watched the youtube, and took some Sugar and
put it in a tray, took it outside, added some Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , and nothing
happened. It didn't even get warm. Then I came back and re read the
title of the youtube, that was sodium chlorAte, not sodium chlorIte.
HA HA!
Damn Fool!
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This is a reply to # 1,101,393and the byproducts of chlorine dioxide once activated are chlorite and chlorate.
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This is a reply to # 1,101,462my whole point has been to research before you believe the words of anyone that claims to have the knowledge. you can get it yourself. this book was one that i wanted to purchase, but was $260. it has answers that are important before you proceed. i am not writing this to cause a fight, to support biosafe or humble. i am asking you to listen to both sides and find the info for yourselves. sometimes the problems that can be caused by ingestion don't show up for awhile. please read this and don't take the chance.
http://books.google.com/books?id=wzj3khokmaic&pg=pa348&lpg=pa348&dq=chlorine+...
efforts to examine the reaction chemistry of chlorine dioxide have shown chorite and chlorate appear as byproducts of the disinfection process, and as in vivo metabolites following chlorine dioxide ingestion. a multitude of health related problems have been associated with chlorite and chlorate exposure. it lowers the t4 levels and alters the hemoglobin and glutathione levels.- Re: actually, he is just misleading.... johng
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This is a reply to # 1,101,482the link doesn't appear to work. besides, the issue for me is not whether Miracle-Mineral-Supplement is completely harmless. I have a condition, pomphylox, which I believe is caused by a long term chronic infection, either bacteria, or more likely, mycoplasma. I am a very holistic minded person, and have pursued treatment mainly through homeopathy, diet and supplementation. I have had great progress, but have to gotten it to clear fully. whatever it is, its tough.
i've done all manner of herbal cleanses... without success. Mainstream medicine offers almost nothing in the way of cure, only topical treatments (steroids) that permit the infection to grow and fester over time. about the only drug that showed any effectiveness is an anti-leprosy treatment. you should see the list of side effects of that drug. far worse than even the potential problems discussed with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement .
My condition showed almost immediate improvement with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . Its not even been two months, so I can't say if it will do the trick. but, there appears to be no option for me that does not involve some risk. the detrimental effects of MMS, if real, are far less than the drugs available out there. so its not that I ignore the risk, but make the choice knowing that there exists no perfect answer. this stuff works, for whatever reason, and I'll take the chance... knowing that there are risks.
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This is a reply to # 1,101,490I'm sorry that you are suffering. Instead of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , could you try a product that isn't as strong? He mentioned others, he doesnt any himself. It's the strength that he said was dangerous. This link should work.
http://books.google.com/books?id=WZj3khOKMaIC&pg=PA348&lpg=PA348&dq=chlorine+...
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This is a reply to # 1,101,510That study is some pretty damning information. Even with 1 ppm there were health risks. Is the substance that is in the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement the exact same substance in the study? I quit taking any kind of natural health supplements a few months ago out of boredom with all of it and boy, I caught the flu and then I have been fighting off a bronchiole infection. I ordered some mms just in case the acv, oregano, cs, vitamin c, h202, netti-pot and hot baths don't kick in soon. I have not tried it yet but this study makes me want to take a second look at the downside of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . I truly believe in alt health but it seems that this infection has really grabbed me and I am just barely keeping it at bay. The last thing I want to do is end up in in a corporate drug czar doctor's office so it is really important to for me know if this mms is the same thing or becomes the same thing as the stuff in the study. What is your take on this issue?
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This is a reply to # 1,101,490Have you tried Colloidal Silver used topically? I have had some success with topical CS when internal usage was not helpful at all. Just put it in a spray bottle that makes a very fine mist and douse the affected area several times throughout the day. Hope you find health.
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This is a reply to # 1,101,540I have not, yet. Sodium Chlorite seems to make better sense to me right now. both have risks I suppose. but for now I am more comfortable by the risks posed by Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . people forget that anything can be harmful if the dose is too high, even water. all the negative posts i have seen about mms, when you read the links, is either about the concentrated gas, the powder, or in very very high doses. as such, I see little cause for the alarmism.
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This is a reply to # 1,101,561I am not against Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . I am just making a suggestion. No reason you cant do both Miracle-Mineral-Supplement internally and CS externally at the same time.
Anyway, put this on your list. I really and truly believe this is something you should try.- Re: actually, he is just misleading.... johng
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This is a reply to # 1,101,574I know...and I think its a good suggestion. at the time I started Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , i was considering CS. its just that I don't like to too many things at once. If Miracle-Mineral-Supplement does not work out, CS is certainly on the short list of things to try and evaluate.
One thing that really helped me get over any fears I had of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement was learning that Andreas Moritz , who had a forum here for several years, recommends it. Andreas is very holistic minded. I trust him and don't think that he would recommend a harmful chemical. its just not is style.
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This is a reply to # 1,101,641Andreas is good. A freind of mine just had a phone consultation with him and she said it went very very well. The consults are quite expensive though, too much for me at the moment.
CS internally and CS topically are very different things. For some strange reason you rarely hear of topical usage of it, but I believe it can be very powerful, and in some cases even more affective than internal usage. Also there is the problem that internal usage could interfere with intestinal flora, which is what I believe happened with me.
Well good health in whatever option you choose.
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