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ajgasper
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Hi,
Is there a good place to go to learn about symbols in dreams? I think things like going up a river infer going back in time? I remember that from Literature Class.
I had a dream last night. It was the first one I remember in.... I don't know, 30 years or so. I use to dream a lot. At one time I was in the dreams I use to have, that is, I could control them with my thoughts. When that started happening it scared me. It seems it was not long after, that I don't remember having dreams again.
I don't remember the entire dream from last night, but someone was drawing a map of a village with a stick in the sand. I seemed to know who that person was, but couldn't see him. The village was on top of a gently rolling hill overlooking a valley. I seemed to know the village, and each hut he drew out. The valley reminded me of Southeast Asia, but there were no rice paddy's. Finally, the person drew a line through the village and down the hill, and said I needed to go down the river. Even though I couldn't see the sea I knew the river went there. I also knew the sea was just over the horizon. There were also storm clouds rising on the horizon.
Is there any meaning in "going down a river"? In the dream I felt relief/contentment that I was finally leaving, but when I woke up I was agitated, and could not go back to sleep.
I've been parasite and liver cleansing, and OPing. To be perfectly honest, there are days that I've never felt better. Then there are days I'm not here. I'm also remember things I long ago forgot about. Not sure what is happening. One thought, toxins are being released and neurons are being fired up that form connections to old memories.
So I don't know what is going on. I hope I will get my semi-photographic memory back, on the other hand I wonder if altzheimers is setting in.
Anyway, it felt good to have a dream again.
Any references would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Arnold
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- Re: Look Up There! ajgasper
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This is a reply to # 1,080,499Thanks,
Her site is up, but the link to submit the dreams is turned off. She also has a message thanking everyone who has sent her mail the last 18 months.
However, I did a search and found some dream dictionaries.
So I'll take a crack it. If anyone cares to give their opinion that would be great.
Map. I’m being guided/directed in a direction that fulfills needs/goals. It also indicates a change. I’ve been in the worst job I’ve ever had. I have custody of my children, and took it because it was close to home. That has changed. My son now has his drivers license, and my daughter is in high school. I have been giving a lot of thought of trying to get a position where I worked before coming here.
Drawing (stick)???. Expression of latent creative and artistic ability. I feel like I’m being stifled here, but not sure if that is what was represented.
Village. Represents restrictions. Definitely this job.
Hut. Basic necessities and comforts. Accept what I have and know that is enough. Not sure. I’m renovating my home. Maybe I need to finish it up??? There were multiple huts…. Not sure.
Man. I didn’t see the man, but I knew who he was. Indicates my masculine aspect. It represents myself.??? The creator or destroyer. The rational side of me. I’m my own worst enemy????? So if I’m changing plans, the rationale side is saying yes, but I need to be aware it could have less than positive repercussions.
Valley. Positive change resulting in happiness and peace.
Sea. Represents my emotions. Also, I may need to see the situation more clearly. Ties back in with the man (destroyer) I suppose. Also represents collective experiences. The sea was far away so I couldn’t see what the water was. So….there is a vast sea of experiences, memories, and emotions. I suppose it is saying I need to address these things so when I reach the sea it will be clear and calm???
Horizon. A new beginning or somber end. I suppose that ties back in with man and sea.
Clouds. Impending eruption of emotions. Lack of wisdom/confusion in some situation. I would say ties back to this job, and also the man sea negative scenarios. But what situation??? I have a boy living with us that grew up in one of the more notorious projects in the area. There have been some issues. I don’t know. Obviously I don’t want to address whatever it is. Maybe I’ll have another dream. Also my negative characteristics and private thoughts could be represented by the storm clouds rising. My own worst enemy again. Since I’ve started this physical cleanse process I’ve had all kinds of crazy ass thoughts.
Hill. On top of a hill I’ve succeeded or now have the resources to complete. I can leave this job, because my children are more independent.
Relief. Trying to reduce the effect of the dream. Need to take time out and evaluate decisions and judgement carefully. I could flog myself over and over on this. Stay or leave. However, I think there is something else.
Down (heading down stream). Have made the wrong decision. Metaphor for oral sex. I vote for the oral sex. This one is one off. Everything else seems to say yes, move, but make sure I think it out. This says it’s wrong no matter. There must be something else going on that I don’t want to acknowledge. What decisions have I made lately?
River. There was no river, just a map saying there was one. So I suppose like the sea, what I put in the river is up to me. Am I floating along or controlling my movements? Right now floating along, but leaving would be indicating controlling???
River as a road. Was relatively straight, had a wide arch, but did disappear in the valley. So leaving was clear. What happens after I leave was not clear. OK this is hitting on something now. Man, Sea, etc. I have not broached coming back to my old position. What if there is not a position?
Line. Seeing a line symbolizes duality. Also movement/non movement. Limits/boundaries. Nothing in the dream fit with the dictionary….standing in line, crossing the line.
So it sounds like subconscious thinks leaving is a good idea, however I need to put contingency plans in place. Also need to start working on the after I leave what do I do plan. There are also some issues I need to address in my personal life.
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- Re: Look Up There! ajgasper
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This is a reply to # 1,080,499Hi,
Thanks for responding. The book sounds like a good idea. Want to tell about the dreams? That might be a good way to start.
Besides, now that you've mentioned them, I'm curious to hear about them. A Giant Ape, and a tornado. Did your father die soon after the dream?
Arnold
- Edited UserX
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- No Need to be Sorry ajgasper
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This is a reply to # 1,080,777Hi,
Thanks.
Not sure what to think. The River of the Holy Spirit. The representation of a river on a map being drawn by a stick represents a spiritual path.
So being on top of the hill represents I am not going to progress beyond where I am today. The map represents my current life. The village community, simplicity and tradition... or what I understand what the world to be. The huts indicating basic necessities and comforts. Since they were not defined (just lines in the dirt) it either means I need to determine what is important, or it indicates I need to leave them behind.
So the path out is a spiritual one?
So if I take the spiritual path that leads to the valley it means a positive change resulting in happiness and peace.
The sea represents my unconscious, and the transition between my unconscious and conscious. Also, my emotions, memories, soul, and collective experiences. It could also be a pun on my understanding and perception of the situation. The horizon represents goals and future plans. The storm clouds could represent an impending eruption of emotions, but also represents a lack of wisdom or confusion in some situation.
The most pronounced aspect of the dream was the drawing of the map. So I would say that is the most significant. I followed the line of the river to the valley, so that is indicating the results of the path. I followed the valley with my eyes to the horizon. The path of the river ended in the valley. May I just assumed the destination was beyond that (over the horizon). I did not observe the sea, but knew it was there. So my emotions, memories, soul, and collective experiences are there, but were not the focus of the dream. The horizon are future plans after I’ve reached the valley??? The storm clouds being a lack of wisdom or confusion (family, work, friends).
I don’t know. I don’t put a lot of weight in the meta-physical aspect of things. I’ve been down that road, it has always lead no where. God abandoned me long ago, to use an expression. I do think my subconscious is recognizing things that my conscious is not accepting. This can be any number of things including ego, pride, being obstinate, past history, etc.
That was good input. It was a different perspective of thinking. However, it would be a major paradigm shift for me.
Arnold
- Re: No Need to be Sorry- different p... lilpolock
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This is a reply to # 1,081,302Hi!
I read your dream and associated the river to a "stream of life"
which leads down to the sea - being a vast reservoir of a collective type of nature.
Think about it... all rivers flow to the sea.
Different rivers, different seas, different areas, all on one planet.
I like the way you throw your ideas out there.
I usually do this to/by myself and see what resonates back to me.
Your feelings will guide you.
Margie
- Re: No Need to be Sorry- different p... ajgasper
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This is a reply to # 1,081,369Thanks Margie,
Definitely food for thought. To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure if I'm capable of thinking at that level. Sort of something I would envision a theoretical physicist or artist could/would do.
Until I found the CureZone I use to bounce things off myself also. With my personality that is not necessarily a good thing. I usually agree with myself that I'm perfect. However, when someone does not agree with that intuitive assessment of myself, the reality is not necessarily validated. However, I think I understand what you're saying. I'm the only one who is going to know what is right, true, or appropriate.
It is nice to get alternative thoughts and perspectives. I’ll have to think about this. The stream of life, and all rivers flow to the sea…… the sea being a vast reservoir of a collective type of nature. Different rivers, different seas, different areas, all on one planet. Do you have some homework that might be a little easier?
Thanks,
Arnold
- Re:No homework just different perspe... lilpolock
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This is a reply to # 1,081,634Hi Arnold!
I'm going to throw some of my thoughts "out there"'
don't know if they actually have any validity, but I've been
wrong and/or stupid before, so corrections are welcome.
So jumping right in; I suspect there are different "levels"
from which to view dreams. Like the four elements:
A physical view
an emotional view
a mental view
a spiritual view
From a physical view your village could be seen as your physical environment.
Your house/home/apartment and even neighborhood.
From an emotional standpoint it could show you how you feel about
where you are at in life.
Mentally, the structures and configuration of your village may indicate
a mindset, your own, and/or that of "others"-village mates, if you will.
Spiritually? I dunno... ( not my job)
Any way you look at it though, the "message" of the dream remains.
You're being invited to... grow/explore/experience/etc.
At least that's how I see it.
You are right, I'm saying that you are the only one who can know what is right for you.
Margie- Re:No homework just different perspe... ajgasper
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This is a reply to # 1,082,314Hi Margie,
I appreciate your thoughts. There is no need to think other wise. If I didn't want to hear what peoples impressions were, I would not be posting. I appreciate the fact that you took the time and were thoughtful enough to say anything.
If I knew what I was doing I wouldn't be asking the question.
A major event happened yesterday that was in line with the dream. When I get more time I'll expand upon it. Right now I'm thinking through the options. It is actually of significant negative impact, but I'm thinking of it from the perspective of what the dream was.
I also had another dream last night. I did not sleep well last night. The dream was two groups of letters. Each group had a sequence of three letters. The only letters I could remember were THI in the first group, and VOX in the second group.
Again, Thanks,
Arnold- Re: different perspectives lilpolock
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This is a reply to # 1,082,398Hi again!
So what do you think about this idea of trying to look at the symbols
within dreams from these "elemental" perspectives?
I myself can see that in a dream with few symbols it may be workable.
However, in a larger epic/saga type dream it would just become an albatross.
Then I look at your last dream...
Very few symbols and no way to apply this "theory"..
So maybe this whole idea should just be tossed.
No offense meant or taken.
Margie
- Re: different perspectives ajgasper
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This is a reply to # 1,084,191Hi,
From a certain perspective I would agree. Dreams with few keys don't provide much, at least to a novice like me, and dreams that have a lot of symbols and keys can be very overwhelming.
I like your idea of looking at dreams from the four perspectives, and I believe could provide a framework for evaluation.
I may be wrong, but what I've read about dreams, they provide a link between one's conscious and subconscious mind. When something is out of sync between the two dreams provide a means for the subconscious to tell the conscious to take note. At least that is my theory right now. But what do I know?
Friday, I was removed from a project. It was the area that I was not happy with that I mentioned in the first dream. I'm a little distubed by the situation because I do not know why. When I am provided a reason, I follow up with documentation disproving the statements. I knew the position was a no win situation from the beginning, but went ahead because it put me 20 minutes from home and access to my children. I had been commuting 1 1/2 hours in a previous position, that placed a great deal of strain upon the family. The latest position eliminated the family strain, but placed a great deal of strain upon me.
So I'm relieved in that I do not have to go back into that situation, but now my reputation is about 2 points below whale manure. In addition, there is a great deal of uncertainty with the future.
So I look at my situation from the perspective of the dream. I had reached the pinicle of what I could accomplish as an individual on this project. To be perfectly honest, I am much more happier and content (the valley) not being there. So I guess the stream was my path out. However, where I go from here needs to be worked out. There are a lot of things I need to think about and work through.
So I'm hoping I can have and remember more dreams. If I can keep my conscious in synch with my subconscious I'm hoping I'll be a much happier, productive, and healthier individual. Nice theory, but I'll give it a try.
Thanks for your input, it has been very helpful. I was thinking about taking a crack at some of the other dreams others have posted, but it is a lot of work. However, I think with practice the time can be reduced significantly.
Arnold- Re: perspectives lilpolock
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,085,111Hi again!
It's nice to get mail, isn't it?
In reading over your latest post these words stood out to me:
Friday I was removed from a project
It was the area I was not happy with
I knew the position was a no win situation
placed a great deal of strain on me
I'm relieved that I do not have to go back into that situation.
In my opinion it seems that you are not only releasing toxic stuff
from your body, but from your life as well.
Now just as you put good stuff into your body
put things that make you feel good into your life.
Have you read about the law of attraction?
It may help you decide where to go from here.
Best wishes, Margie- Re: perspectives ajgasper
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,085,568Hi Margie,
Interesting you should mention that. A few weeks ago I had thought of the same thing. I'm trying to cleanse my body of parasites, why not relationships? Considering my track record, the parasites were probably more healthy (I'm in a pretty good frame of mind today).
The Law of Attraction! Is that a book? I've mostly attract two basic groups the down and out, and the missfits of society. The other group appears to be those who validate their existence by making others feel inferior. The first group I don't mind. For the most part they are sincere and honest. The second group are reminders as to why abortion is needed. My problem is finding the garlic, cross, wind chimes, etc. to keep the second group in the shadows (I'm on a role today).
Anyway, thanks for the advice. The hard part for me is figuring out what makes me feel good (I love to work).
Arnold
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