Is this a lifelong battle once it be... 
plasticat
16 y
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As I read through the forum I read posts where people speak about how long they have been on the candida diet, antifungals, and they are still having terribe problems.
I see:
"I have been on the candida diet for 18 months"
"been on the candida diet for 4 years"
the list is endless...
Yet, these people are still having terrible problems.
How ridiculously impossible is it to ever reduce candida to normal levels?
Do people have to be on a restrictive diet for the rest of their lives?
I have never seen a protocol that requires such immense dilligence, yet essentially offers little reward.
Are you ever cured of this? Is this a lifelong battle once it becomes a problem?
There are hundreds of pages in this forum, yet no one ever seems to have been "cured"?
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- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... Bythc
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,077,660Hi again Plasticat,
It is possible to get well, not easy, but possible. I was so far gone, had so many problems, which pretty much all hit me at once. The doctors kept giving me kick a@@ anti-biotics(their description,not mine), I kept getting worse. Even went to the Mayo clinic. I had intense itching all over, my ankle was the size of a football with a horible leasion. The doctor stated she was afraid to touch me, but said I wasn't sick enough to be treated. It got worse after that, I became swollen all over, my skin looked like cottage cheese and I was covered in leasions. I turned yellow, there is more, but I won't go on. When I came across curezone, I had improved, but I was still shopping in the middle of the night. Today I can shop anywhere, anytime.
As far as this diet goes, it just is not in me to follow it. I grow as much of my food as I can, eat organic, no refined sugar, try and stay away from glutten and refined and enriched. I've learned here about cabbage and okra(eatting okra helps alot and it is easy to grow). Just these two food have been a great help. I take loads of anti-fungals and drinking the buttermilk seems to put back the good stuff the anti-fungals kill. I take lugols, lots of CS(make my own) do oping, eat coconut oil, I use crystals, yoga, EFT, Quatum healing, vitimins up the ying yang. The list just goes on. Having the bad tooth removed, has improved me greatly. My load of parasite, candida, gram-negative biofilm encased crap is greatly decreased.
To heal you have to become positive that you are going to become healed. Research try things, if they don't work for you move on. Ask God for help, ask again(nagging is allowed). Have an open mind, if your sure it won't hurt give it a try. Imagine your skin flawless tell your immune system to get to work. I concentrate on my body pushing the invaders out, them dying, command my white blood cells to kill them off.
Will I always have to look out for candida, you bet, and a whole lot of other things, but who doesn't?
Healing energy
Bythc
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- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... ketchup
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,077,735I am on my 3d relapse; each time, it's worse.
Since 9 years elapsed between each relapse, I thought I was cured once and for all each time.
I was on a diet with very limited sugar, eating mostly bio foods; In my view, even if you don't have candida, refined Sugar is bad.
I relapsed nevertheless; each time, my relapse came as a result of a long period of stress, and trauma.
So don't ever think you are totally safe and that you can forget about candida. Stay alert!- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... bodgy
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,077,812To blythc, just curious how overt where your bad tooth symptoms? Did you KNOW you had a bad tooth with overt pain and swelling? I have a tooth that bothers me some, but shows no infection on xray. I've thought about having the tooth pulled to see if it might be "the source" of it all, but everybody freaks when I tell them this. Like how could I possibly have a tooth pulled that doesn't "show" infection. I had some ozone injections in it and I always had a "proving" reaction that something was being killed(so the ortho said). But he became dicouraged b/c it never seemed to stop doing that reaction no matter how many injections I had. I feel relief when I take antifungals, but it doesn't last very long. SO I am trying to figure out if it has bacteria and my body is allowing candida to florish in order to protect me from it, OR is it just candida in it that won't go away? Anyway, could you describe the tooth situation any more?
- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... cassiopeia
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,077,851Though I'm just starting my journey, in my perusals of this forum I have seen several people leave or claim to be cured. I also know of at least one person in my social circle who followed the diet and is now symptom free and can eat "normally". I think that one's general habits have to change, for you can't go back to eating and living the same way and expect to stay better, but I do believe it absolutely can be done.
- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... ketchup
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,077,887''Though I'm just starting my journey, in my perusals of this forum I have seen several people leave or claim to be cured.''
That's what I would have claimed before relapsing.
So do not ever assume you are free from candida once and for all.
Not to rain on your parade but the fact that relapses happen is a well known fact among candida sufferers.
It's like alcohol addiction; even if you have been on the wagon for years, you cannot say for sure that you will never relapse.
So do not let success make you overconfident and careless like I was after 9 years of being symptom free;
Make it a lifetime job to watch your diet, do not take Antibiotics unless absolutely necessary, learn stress control techniques and limit your exposure to stress as much as possible.
- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... ketchup
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- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... Bythc
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,077,851The tooth had a root canal and crown, I never really had any pain. I would wake up with sinus issues and my eyes would be swollen(this started over ten years ago). For more than two years I have battle symtoms of morgellons, leaky gut, parasites,candida and constipation(there may be more I just can't think of them). Dark circles developed around my eyes, little black specks would emerge from the skin on my face. Every now and then I would wake up with a migraine. I alway would feel bad when I woke up, I believe this was due to the fact the lymph systems was taking care of alot of the infection(works with gravity). The candida was reallly bad. The tooth was exrayed at when I was really sick, due to a crown in front of it falling off. It was exrayed at least a couple of times after that(the other crown kept falling off). Never did it show infection, it was exrayed a month before it was removed. I did have a short period of pain when I was at high elevations, that went away and the denist saw nothing wrong with the tooth. In the end the tooth became loose and the denist said the root was cracked and extracted it.
. I had some ozone injections in it and I always had a "proving" reaction that something was being killed(so the ortho said). But he became dicouraged b/c it never seemed to stop doing that reaction no matter how many injections I had. I feel relief when I take antifungals, but it doesn't last very long.
Just like you the antifungal and the ozone have helped but it was a constant effort to gain any ground. I no longer have any silver crowns, I have the ones with the white stuff on top, but I think the metal used is probably the same, so I may be getting dentures soon.
I have been called crazy more than once through this journey, but I have been my best doctor. If you think the source is the tooth it probably is.
DIANOSIS UNKNOWN by Randy Smith, this woman had many of my(like many here) same problems. She had a tooth pulled that she thought was infected, but the denist didn't until he pulled it. I have to run , will get back later, sorry about being so long later
- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... cassiopeia
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- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... bodgy
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- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... ketchup
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- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... Zoebess
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,077,660All of us inhale candida the moment we take our
first breath outside our mother's body. Human's
share the planet with fungus which is the most
prevalent lifeform on the planet last time I
checked...
Yeast/fungus/candida does not present a problem
until there is an overgrowth. It takes time to
find balance. Like anything else, if you fall out
of balance you will have a relapse. There are no
grand arrivals though and so through diet and
cleansing and keeping things like parasites down,
you can regain your balance.
It took me three years the first time to bring
my candida back into balance. About twice that
long to fall out again and less time the next time
to regain it. Of course, this was also after a
lifetime of choices which encouraged the overgrowth
of candida. I still cling to habits like drinking
beer which is more akin to fertilizer for yeast.
I am not stressed by this but am also careful with
my other dietary choices and do a candida cleanse
at least once a year. Just about now is a good
time for me, after the holiday feasting and libating.
Once you fit it into your mind and understand
the role yeast plays in your body's chemistry,
than almost like a gardener, you will layer food,
and water into your system like a composting heap
almost. You will grow and tend your yeast by giving
it nutrients to grow or herbs which dampen down its
growth.
The yeast and bacteria are important to digestion
so it is not our intention to wipe everything out but
to realize that like a lawn with weeds, you want to
grow the good bacteria strains and weed out the fast
growing more overbearing types. We use yogurt and kefir
or probiotics and acidophilous to replenish and feed
our good gut flora.
Once you become comfortable with this, you will see
that even raising your awareness represents major
progress.
Progress or decay...thats the name of the game with
candida. Hang in there...you are ahead in the game
having come this far. Do not give up when one day
you will wake up and just know, you have found the
wellness you are seeking.
best wishes,
Zoe
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- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... Hollith
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,077,962I'd like to think most everyone will be cured. I remember when I was sick with Lyme Disease, I was sick for over a year. I used to belong to a Lyme support group, and everyone had chronic Lyme. Lyme can also be very hard to rid yourself of, and many people go on for years with it. Well, I rid myself of the Lyme, and that's something that can give those Lyme people hope. Unfortunately in doing so, I developed Candida....so I rid myself of one ailment and have another, but the point is, I beat Lyme! And now I must believe I will beat Candida. I can do it!
And I agree with a previous poster on this thread...it seems if people weren't eventually cured by whatever means...it seems there would be more people on the board, the people who don't come anymore, perhaps because they don't have Candida anymore, maybe not a good thing to base a lot on, but it can give us hope.
- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... Hollith
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- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... macmac
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,077,660Hello,
Although im still young, i got this problem for about 8 years, and it has completely ruined my personal life.
Im on candida died for about 2-3 years. Am i cured? Definitely no, but the diet reduces all the symptoms.
Is this lifelong battle?
I would like to believe it isn't, but my experience shows it is.
I don't read this forum very frequently, but i read the other one in my native language and i don't recall a single post that said 'hey im finally cured!'.
Maybe people really don't post once they are cured, but it doesn't change the fact that it is definitely ridiculously impossible to get rid of it, and only very few are able to do it(if any at all).
The other problem is that most doctors ignore it which doesn't help.
I have lost most of the hope that i'll ever get rid of it...
ps. sorry for my english
- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... Hollith
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,078,080Your English is great! Maybe you're right...but I remember as I got better with my Lyme Disease, and I posted on a Lyme forum, I started to feel better very very slowly. So when I was "cured", you have to be careful with that word, even with Lyme, I never had an announcement that I was cured, I did state that I was feeling better after awhile...and actually just recently I did go back and tell everyone there that there is hope, because many of them start to think they will have it forever, and as an example, I do not...just using it as a comparison. I'm still fighting of course, and it's fairly early in my struggle I think, so I'm not sure. But if people are "cured" then we would really like to hear from them!
- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... Hollith
16 y
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- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... remi96
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,077,660No it is not a lifelong problem. I hav battled this for the second time. The first time I was successful and was fine for 10 years and I ate and did whatever I wanted. However, after repeated doses of Antibiotics , stress, poor diet and no health maintenance I gradually became sick again. Not recognizing the symptoms it was allowed to get worse over a period of years before I recogized. After that my treatment was too minimal nd indirect to make a difference.
My feeling is that no one , absolutely no one should be on this diet for 4 years unless they have notaddressed the issues as to why they have candida, IF that is even what they have. For instance if mercury is causingit, a thyroid problem, poor elimination etc. We all have a reason why candida lingers. Figure out YOUR answer and you can then address it.
This time around I have gotten well fast by incorporating the right treatment. Unfortunately you are reading posts by the very few that are not having success for one reason or the other. However these people are in the small minority. The people who have had success are no longer in this board, they have moved with their life. So I would suggest instead of reading only the recent posts, why notgo back to day one on this board and see if you see any of those people here anymore.
- Thanks for the insightful post Remi.... Hollith 16 y 4,242
- Re: Is this a lifelong battle once i... IVELA
7 y
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This is a reply to # 1,078,149Previous reply... Very true! People leave once they are better. Doctors assume that patients that leave are cured many times. I have gone from almost losing my job of 17 years to 60 percent better. I found the real probs beneath the candida infection i hope Antibiotics ...and vitamin d deficiency. People vitamin d defeciency is a big one. Go to the dr regularly to get this checked. It shoukd be between 60 and 80. I helped one person start getting better who was almost dead. Im not 100 percent but its been 2.5 years of trying. Hang in there. This is a chronic illness that takes time. Im getting there....
- I honestly haven't seen anyone legit... cslayer
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,077,660remi96 seems roughly legit as someone who may have cured it at one, but other than that I haven't found anyone online at all, or in-person that could even dent Candida
And definitely no one that's "won" after it's systemic.
I'm trying everything and anything, so eventually I will find the cure and WHEN I do I will post it here and in every Candida Forum on the internet, so that everyone can finally learn how to win.- Re: I honestly haven't seen anyone l... Zoebess
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,078,279I was cured. I suppose I am still cured as I
do not have a problem with candida and eat
what I wish although after years of being so
strict I never went back to many of the eating
habits which got me in trouble to begin with.
The way I know I was cured was that my chiropractor
who is also a kinesiologist, muscle-tested me
see how my candida was doing. He was not encouraging
saying, everybody has candida. I said, I don't. He
muscle tested and was surprised. He told me I was right.
I had been on antifungals and the diet though for years.
Took Colloidal Silver , Olive Leaf extract and probably
other herbs which also contributed to my success too.
I continue to take an annual preventative course of
antifungals [Mycostat] just to remind my body I am
keeping an eye on the situation. Here is the protocol
I followed~~
http://www.herbalhealer.com/candida.html
There is plenty of hope but it takes focus and
determination and perseverance.
best wishes,
Zoe
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- Re: I honestly haven't seen anyone l... Hollith
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,078,302See, here we go, someone who was cured! Thank you Zoe for the inspiration and for telling us what you did.
Maybe we're not being cured because we need to be more positive about this. Being positive affects your immune system. I will be cured because in my mind, there is no other option, I have to be cured. So does my daughter, who is just a baby and showing signs of yeast now too. I have to cure us both, because that is what needs to be done and I can do it. I have been through a lot already, things have been hard for me, it's been a long road....I had an undiagnosed illness for one year until it was found that I had Lyme disease, and it rampaged through my body...I had several months of treatment, then became pregnant, had an excruciating pregnancy and an endless labor, I've also had an adverse reaction to Levaquin that I'm still feeling effects from and now I'm trying to beat this...I've come through okay from the rest of it, and I will from this too. Because that's the only mindset I can have...any other mindset won't help matters at all. Sorry I'm rambling....- Re: I honestly haven't seen anyone l... hadenuff29
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,078,365Hi guys. that's a load of bollocks. everything is doable if you put your mind to it!
How many people on here say they are on 'strict candida diets' but still sneak the odd bit of cake, ice cream or cake. You have to be honest. half assed effort will give you a half assed results - Re: I honestly haven't seen anyone l... Bythc
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,078,365, I've also had an adverse reaction to Levaquin that I'm still feeling effects from and now
I also was on this drug Levaquin, what was your adverse reaction. It is so hard to figure what is causing what.- Re: I honestly haven't seen anyone l... ketchup
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,078,703of course, there are people who are cured, definitely cured.
But you cannot be absolutely sure you are not going to have a relapse one day, even if you prefer to deny it for mental confort,as I did.
if you are strong, you can live with a health risk hanging over your head ;many people do, specially as they age.
''Hi guys. that's a load of bollocks. everything is doable if you put your mind to it!
''
a positive attitude helps to get back your health, but thinking positive is not denying the facts. Will power and mind power are not enough to heal, if they were, few people would die!
By saying that people who are struggling long and hard to get well are not really puting their mind to it, you're making them feel guilty for not healing.
We all deserve respect and consideration here, those who are heal and those who don't.- Re: I honestly haven't seen anyone l... bodgy
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,078,807I agree with you ketchup! I have been fighting so long, very strict with diet, supplements, alternative therapies, allopathic medicine, mercury removal, etc. (I cringe to think of the money!!) But nothing will change the fact that I had 9 mercury fillings over the course of my life, developed type 1 diabetes at 15, hypothyroid soon after and now deal with adrenal fatigue. Despite the many factors I CAN control, there are MANY I cannot. Who knows, this may just be my lot in life. Maybe my struggle will lead someone else around me to healing. I've questioned, cursed, prayed, willed, and finally just accepted. You better believe I have a question or two when I "go up yonder" though:). Oh yeah! There better be a feast of every food I've ever turned down, seen a recipe for and watched (while drooling) others consume with abandon. Oh me, I feel better.
- Re: I honestly haven't seen anyone l... bodgy
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- Off topic-Levaquin Hollith
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,078,703Oh that drug is the devil...I had a bad sinus infection and was given Levaquin...the stuff is absolute poison to your body...I know most of us hate Antibiotics right now because many are in this boat because of them, but Levaquin is the absolute worst of the worst. Anyway, the reaction I had was terrible tendon pain, in my feet, legs, hands, everywhere. Aching bones, terrible terrible aching bones. I had a feeling like my body was "buzzing", like there was an electrical current running through it. The most insane insomnia I've ever had. I mean eyes wide open feeling like I'm going to freak out kind of insomnia. I could barely walk for days or pick up my baby. I still have some of the tendon pain. The best piece of advice I could ever give anyone in my whole life would be to never ever take Levaquin. The stuff should be taken off the market and if there is ever a class action law suit, I want to be a part of it. Some people are fine with this drug, and some people end up dead, some are in the middle. Some think that those who have the bad reaction are ones who are magnesium deficient.
The worst part is, I know now that my sinus infection was most likely due to Candida/fungus. But, I can't change the past, and I didn't know then what I know now...so I'm looking forward and healing now.- Off topic - Recation to Cyprobay TikiTali
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,078,917Hi Hollith,
Im sorry to hear about your reaction to Levaquin, I also had a horrific reaction to Cyprobay - Cyprobay and Levaquin are from the family of Antibiotics called fluoroquinolones. My doctor in all his wisdom prescribed 1 capsule 3 times per day for a bad stomach bug, by the second day i was compltely psychotic, suicidal, having horrible hallucinations. It was hell on earth and i was terrified. I read through the contraindications and discovered that you should take no more EVER than 1 capsule every 12 hours, i was taking 3 times that as per his instructions. The contraindications stated that caution should be taking as too much of the drug may lead to "SELF ENDANGERING BEHAVIOURS" and "PSYCHOTIC OUTBURSTS" I was devestated to say the least. That the man i trusted as my doctor could have caused me to hurt myself by prescribing an antibiotic.
Two years on I have still not completely recovered, i have lingering anxiety and insomnia and a host of other strange symptoms but i have come to accept that there is nothing that can undo the damage.
I hope that one day these bastards will have to pay back what they have taken from us...I HATE doctors now and will rather die before i take any more of their damn medication, they only make things worse.
Anyway I wish you the best and hope you find complete and total recovery and the peace that comes with knowing you are healthy.
Love and light X
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