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wayWayWAY too many variables/errors for a solid conclusion :( edit Re: Increasing of Bacterial Content of the Body
 
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wayWayWAY too many variables/errors for a solid conclusion :( edit Re: Increasing of Bacterial Content of the Body


Like Ohfor07, I don't desire to start a debate, but I DO desire to point out the major flaws in the "study" (above) so that those that aren't aware of how misleading various forms of "research" can appear, have an opportunity to learn...and this provides an EXCELLENT example.

The first thing one must consider when reading ANY study, is that whoever is doing the research has ALREADY come up with a "theory", and that theory is generally something the researcher WANTS to prove to be true. Therefore the researcher will probably look more closely at all the 'evidence' that supports his/her theory, than they look at the evidence that does not.
(This is virtually unavoidable no matter HOW sincere the person is that's doing the research).

Then there's the "variables"...things that COULD have had an major effect on the theory and conclusion that were NOT considered.

Here's a list of variables (along with possible errors) of this particular 'study'...

-->>Since it was a new field... It was fertilized with hen manure, which I had learned by testing would make very alkaline anything that grew in
the soil.<<

--How much fertilizer was used? What were the hens fed? How was the hen manure composted/processed? Was anything ever grown in THAT fertilizer that PROVED to be alkaline? Did Jarvis ever test THAT fertilizer?

--This statement: "I had learned by testing would make very alkaline ANYTHING that grew in the soil" WHAT??? Hen manure fertilizer will NOT turn normally acidic plants into alkaline plants - PERIOD (think tomatoes). When a researcher uses an untrue statement to explain/defend his theory, one should definitely put your "radar" at HIGH alert.

--Along with the "how much/what batch of fertilizer" concern, there's another. If 'farmer friend' was plowing/tilling a NEW field, and spreading on a normal amount of fertilizer, the state of the soil BEFORE the fertilizer has FAR more impact than the one years worth of fertilizer. One canNOT alter the pH of a new field in any major percentage of impact by 1 spreading of chicken crap. It takes YEARS to alter a new field. (By the way, my grandfather/mother farmed all their lives -as did my aunt/uncle) so I've been surrounded with farmers, cattle, gardens, chickens and field since I was 'wee', so I do have a baseline knowledge of planting crops & raising cattle). Just ask any person that's doing true organic gardening. We've been working on our 800+ square foot garden for YEARS and the soil pH is altered only very slightly each year (the surrounding ground -both around and under our garden- has a huge amount of impact).


-->>I asked if I might have the privilege of extracting the juices from the peas and oats...With no bushes or trees at hand it was certain the cows would eat only the oats and peas. When I extracted the juices I found them alkaline in reaction, as I had expected<<

Peas are alkaline forming to begin with; oats are acid forming. Again, the oats & peas were planted in a new field with (apparently) only one year's worth of fertilizer. Are we too believe that planting a naturally acidic plant in a new field with a bit of chicken manure will totally change the oat plant from acidic to alkaline?? I sure hope not, because that defies possibility! (On the other hand, both peas & oats MIGHT be 'alkaline forming' to cows, I don't know...so I'll be on the lookout for other things in the research that might help me discern the validity of this study).

Just because something is "alkaline in reaction" doesn't mean it will affect an animal's body the same way. Citrus is VERY 'acid in reaction'...but it's an ALKALINE FORMING fruit.

** At this point as one continues reading, everything must be examined closely for errors, as it strongly appears this is NOT something that can be considered "valid" research. **

-->>>I asked myself whether the die: of alkaline vegetation would so change the chemistry in the cows' bodies that their tissues would become suitable soil for the growth of harmful germs. Further, I wondered whether the alkaline diet would produce swelling of one or more quarters of the udder in cows with sensitive udders, and produce streptococci germs in the milk.<<<

AGAIN, we have NO evidence that the oats the cows ingested were in fact alkaline!!

RED ALERT!! An alkaline diet in ANY ANIMAL WILL NOT **PRODUCE** STREPTOCCI IN THE MILK! It may cause the terrain of the animal to be more/less conducive to streptocci reproducing and living...but it does not CREATE (produce) the germ/bacteria known as streptocci!!!

--ELECTRIC Fencing - another HUGE variable not accounted for or addressed. Go to ANY field that has electric fencing and look at the plant growth in the vicinity of the fence. Electricity "alters" (plants AND animals).

--Condition/diet of the herd before being moved to the new field? Not noted or consdered sufficiently...even though the heifers were 'examined' for signs of mastitis and found free of symptoms, that does NOT mean they didn't have strep germs in their body. Every heifer could have already had the germs that result in mastitis.

--What actually causes mastitis? (see below) In cattle it is apparently caused by a combination of the presence of strep or staph infection encouraged by the blocked (or partially blocked) teat.

What actually cured these cows?

Well, Lugol's would kill the bacteria, almost for certain. ACV would increase acidity, but would it increase acidity in a cow enough to kill strep/staph and unblock teats? I dunno. Would increased acidity alone kill strep/staph? I don't think so, but I dunno.

What do we actually KNOW from this study? We know that a combination of Lugol's and ACV cures cows with mastitis. Period.

What do we KNOW about how all this affects the HUMAN body? Absolutely nothing. Period.

Keep your thinking caps on and your radar at high alert...no matter WHO writes the 'study' or HOW 'natural & healthy' it appears to be.

It's a jungle out there - all we've got to depend upon is our own knowledge and ourlogic.

Blankets of blessings,

Unyquity

P.S. I did not bother to read past the point where the cows were healed from mastitis; I assume the remainder of the study was based on what was stated in the portion I had read, and that portion was determined to be anything but factual & dependable for valid research.



# Common bacterial infection among dairy cows that causes the udder to be painful and swollen. It is associated with overproduction of milk, and cows that are injected with rBGH are prone to mastitis. Mastitis is treated with Antibiotics , which contributes to the problem of Antibiotic resistance because traces of the drugs end up in the milk.

http://www.sustainabletable.org/intro/dictionary/


# Inflammation of the mammary glands.

http://www.ccac.ca/en/CCAC_Programs/ETCC/GlossaryEng.htm


# infection of the milk ducts in the breast.

http://www.holyname.org/health_information_resources/health_manuals/Women/glo...


# inflammation of the breast, usually caused by infection.

http://www.aegis.com/pubs/beta/1999/BE991221.html


# This a painful inflammation of the breast tissue that is most likely caused by a bacterial infection from a nipple piercing that has not been properly cared for.

http://www.body-jewelry-n-piercings.com/body-piercing-glossary.html


# Infection of the breast. Mastitis is most often seen in nursing mothers.
seniorhealth.about.com/od/womenshealth/a/women_glos_2.htm

# Inflammatory condition of the udder, often due to infection by bacteria or other micro-organisms.

http://www.specialistcheesemakers.co.uk/best_practice/Glossary_of_terms.htm


# Inflammation of the mammary gland caused by bacterial infection, resulting in reduced milk production.

http://www.goatworld.com/articles/terminology.shtml


# inflammation of a breast (or udder)
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

# Mastitis is the inflammation of the mammalian breast caused by the blocking of the milk ducts while the mother is lactating (see breastfeeding). It can cause painful areas on the breasts or nipples and may lead to a fever or flu-like symptoms. It is not necessary to wean a nursling because of mastitis; in fact, nursing is the most effective way to remove the blockage and alleviate the symptoms, and is not harmful to the baby. Sudden weaning can cause or exacerbate mastitis symptoms.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastitis

 

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